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Old 04-17-2019, 07:41 PM   #1
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champions league

semifinals are set

either Tottenham or Ajax will be in the final, facing off either Liverpool or Barcelona

should be plenty of scoring in the coming matches, none of these teams are likely to park the bus Moanrinho style
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Old 04-17-2019, 09:39 PM   #2
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I really thought I understood the Laws of the Game. Don't get me wrong, I was rooting for Spurs and hope they can do the same to City on Saturday, but I don't understand how VAR upholds a goal off an elbow and disallows a backpass for offsides.
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Old 04-17-2019, 10:53 PM   #3
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I really thought I understood the Laws of the Game. Don't get me wrong, I was rooting for Spurs and hope they can do the same to City on Saturday, but I don't understand how VAR upholds a goal off an elbow and disallows a backpass for offsides.
read laws 11 & 12

https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afd...e_en_47383.pdf

https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afd...t_en_47379.pdf

law 11: (see page 3) When? at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his teammates

law 12: (see page 16) handling the ball requires a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with his hand or arm

the referee forum at bigsoccer.com also does a good job of explaining these things.

and as far as the handball goes, I still haven't seen clear evidence that it even hit his hand. it looked like the hip to me. but even so, the hand was in a neutral position and no referee is going to rule that was deliberate based on the evidence given, you cannot overturn the play as called

it may have even hit a man city defenders hand (scroll about halfway down for 2 photos)

https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/45683920/page/2

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Old 04-18-2019, 05:49 AM   #4
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The problem with offside as you quoted is that Eriksen played a poor backpass off of Bernardo Silva. Silva had no intent on playing the ball to Aguero. If Silva had shot, the ball deflected off Vertonghen and fell to Aguero in his position, he would be ruled offside because Silva was playing the ball, despite the deflection. How does the deflection suddenly consist of "playing the ball" per Law 11?
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The problem with offside as you quoted is that Eriksen played a poor backpass off of Bernardo Silva. Silva had no intent on playing the ball to Aguero. If Silva had shot, the ball deflected off Vertonghen and fell to Aguero in his position, he would be ruled offside because Silva was playing the ball, despite the deflection. How does the deflection suddenly consist of "playing the ball" per Law 11?
intent is not part of law 11.


at the moment the ball TOUCHES or is played by one of his teammates
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Don't get me wrong, I was rooting for Spurs and hope they can do the same to City on Saturday, but I don't understand how VAR upholds a goal off an elbow and disallows a backpass for offsides. 9apps
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heck of a match for Liverpool. the whole Barca team fell asleep on that winning 4th goal
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It would be nice to see Ajax win it all
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Liverpool, down by 3 goals with 90 minutes to play. get in

Tottenham, down by 3 goals with 45 minutes to play. hold my beer
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It would be nice to see Ajax win it all
Or you know....lose a heartbreaker
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this CL season has had some amazing upsets/great games. United over PSG, Ajax over Real, Pool over Barca, and now Spurs over Ajax
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IIRC, Klopp has lost 6 of the 7 Cup finals that he has been involved in as a manager. Surely, Liverpool's 26 point advantage in the English Premier League standings over Tottenham will be enough to overcome this deficiency today. Were the favorites to fail today in the finale against Spurs, it would extend to seven consecutive seasons Liverpool's run without a single trophy in any competition.
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30 seconds in and Tottenham are in the weeds.
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Pretty boring first half. It would be a shame if a game of this significance was decided by a penalty on a handball that didn't seem clear cut.
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Origi. Ballgame.
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Surprisingly flat game for much of it. It felt like the kind of game where the announcers say "this game needs a goal", but there already was one! Tottenham never really was able to get a sense of urgency and Pool didn't have to because they already had the goal. A bit of a letdown over all. Luckily we recorded it so we could watch it with coffee and breakfast and speed through some of the downtime.
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