Suggestions: Drafts

battists · 07-03-2007, 08:34 PM

This suggestion thread is designed to collect suggestions for the next version of OOTP, on the following topic:

Drafts

Includes
- Features and suggestions related to drafts: inaugural, amateur, Rule 5, expansion

Excludes
- Non-draft stuff

Instructions
We will use this thread to collect suggestions on the above topic. Later on, we hope to present this information back to the community in a way that would allow you to vote and prioritize certain features.

If you would like to participate, here are the rules!

Only 1 suggestion per post.
Suggestions must be on-topic for the thread.
Constructive, non-inflammatory suggestions only.
No comments on others' suggestions are necessary. That means, we don't need 15 posts in the thread saying "Great idea!" or "I agree!"
Please don't link to other forum threads as your way of making suggestions. ("My suggestion can be found HERE.") If it's important enough to you that you want it in this thread, then it should be important enough to put it in the format I've asked for here!
You can certainly post suggestions that conflict with or build upon earlier suggestions.
Mockups are welcomed, they really help Markus see what you're interested in accomplishing.

Format for Suggestions

Suggestion
What is your suggestion? Be as specific as possible; include the screen you're talking about, if applicable.

Reason
Why do you think this is important? If this is to correct what you perceive as a problem in OOTP 2007, what is that problem? Be as specific as possible.

Priority
In your opinion, how important is this suggestion?
High (MUST have), Medium (should have), Low (nice to have))

Handy Cut-and-Paste Suggestion Form:

Suggestion

Reason

Priority

Thanks for participating!

Steve

battists · 07-03-2007, 08:39 PM

Suggestion
Create a draft pick report that tells each team what specific picks they own in the next draft (or successive drafts, if future draft picks are implemented, hint hint!).

Something like this:

Phillies
Upcoming Draft Pick Report for 2007

>>

Round>>	*Pick #>>**	*Overall #>>**	Notes>>
1	8	8	>>
2	8	24	>>
2	16	32	Acquired from Boston via trade on 10/18/06 trade
3	8	40	>>
4	8	56	>>
5	8	72	>>

>>
Note: This report shows the projected pick number based on the current standings.>>

Reason
Currently, there is no way to understand the draft order in the upcoming draft, or remember if you've traded draft picks, without looking through transaction logs and such.

Priority
High

injury log · 07-03-2007, 09:24 PM

Suggestion

Either a rule 5 draft report/log, as exists for the amateur draft, or an email message informing me of players lost in the Rule 5 draft.

Reason

If I auto-complete the Rule 5 draft, the only way to find out which players I've is by trawling through the Transactions Log, which is normally cluttered with all the same-day promotions and demotions AI teams have made in preparation for the draft.

Priority

Low, but would be helpful and presumably easy to implement.

(note: This was recently logged as a feature request in Tech Support)

Garlon · 07-03-2007, 09:35 PM

Suggestion
Base rookie draft order on team winning % over the past 3 seasons combined, instead of just previous season's record. Do not base this on # of games won over the past 3 seasons, use winning % because if you don't do this expansion teams will undeservedly get the top draft picks 3 years in a row even if they have good seasons. It would also be nice to have an NBA lottery style draft order in which the worst teams have a high likelihood of getting the top picks but not an absolute guarantee.

Reason
As far as I know MLB calculates the draft order based on previous 3 seasons, and it would probably lead to more competetive balance. It would also make it less tempting to have a fire sale or "throw" a season in historicals just to get a great player in next year's draft (i.e. Babe Ruth).

Priority
Medium

Kuttner · 07-03-2007, 10:33 PM

Suggestion
Create an "Inaugural Draft Preference" that allows you to set the AI to:
- Heavily Favor Overall Ratings
- Favor Overall Ratings
- Neutral
- Favor Potential Ratings
- Heavily Favor Potential Ratings

Or something like that. This would be similar to the "Trading Preferences"

Reason
This would provide the player the opportunity to determine how the AI approached the Inaugural Draft, whether to concentrate on established players or prospects, both, etc. It might go a long way to making the first few years of a fictional league more competitive.

Priority
Medium.

Muzamba · 07-04-2007, 07:28 AM

Suggestion
Require amateur draftees to be signed by a given deadline or they will go back into the draft pool for next year. (I know this period used to be a full year, but I believe it just changed and will be shorter starting next year.)

Reason
Realism. Strategy.

Priority
LOW

Mattymo · 07-04-2007, 08:40 AM

Suggestion
Have the ability to have one big draft pool, with undrafted players trickling down into other leagues. For example, if I have my MLB and ABL, all the guys that go undrafted i the MLB would then move to the ABL draft.

Reason
makes it more realistic. Obviously players' goal is to get drafted by the MLB, but if not they do look elsewhere to play.

Priority
medium.

Mattymo · 07-04-2007, 08:41 AM

Suggestion
Have high school draftees have the option to go to college instead.

Reason
realism.

Priority
low

Garlon · 07-04-2007, 08:53 AM

Suggestion
Rankable rookie draft lists. After the rookie player pool is announced, allow teams to rank the players in the draft and submit their list. When it is time for the rookie draft, the AI will automatically select the highest ranked available player on each team's draft list. Teams/managers would also have the option to draft "manually" when draft day comes and be prompted when it is their pick just as it is now.

Reason
This would make rookie drafts much easier for online leagues in which it is often difficult to coordinate a live draft with all of the team owners. This seems like one of the most practical features still not in the game.

Priority
High

Honolulu Blue · 07-04-2007, 04:23 PM

Suggestion
More options for the expansion draft - such as the ability to pull players off the list after having one taken, limits on players taken per team, limiting the expansion pool to one subleague, and/or defining certain players to leave out of the pool (e.g. young minor leaguers with no ML experience, 10-5 guys, etc.)

Reason
Would add to realism for historical players; adds to options and thought involved for all players.

Priority
Medium

Honolulu Blue · 07-04-2007, 04:29 PM

Suggestion
Customizable draft pools by quality and/or quantity

Reason
A large percentage of high drafted players in real life are either shortstops, center fielders, or starting pitchers. I would like to model the pool to reflect this by adding to the number of players at those positions, making them better relative to other positions, or both.

Priority
High

kroney37 · 07-07-2007, 10:25 AM

Suggestion
Stop the practice of having recently-drafted player contracts expire within a few months of the expansion draft.

Reason
Players don't actually leave their teams right after being drafted; allows teams to keep players they draft

Priority
High

kroney37 · 07-07-2007, 10:29 AM

Suggestion
More expansion-draft related movement. Typically, the expansion draft triggered player movement to/from the drafting teams - the draft should cause non-drafting teams to assess their situations based on who they have lost and/or who may now be available.

Reason
It would reflect reality somewhat better than the expansion draft periods that I've seen.

Priority
Low

injury log · 07-07-2007, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kroney37

Suggestion
Stop the practice of having recently-drafted player contracts expire within a few months of the expansion draft.

Reason
Players don't actually leave their teams right after being drafted; allows teams to keep players they draft

Priority
High

The issue here is that the game allows an expansion draft to be scheduled before free agents file, and impending free agents are included in the expansion draft pool. The game should either only permit expansion after the FA filing date, or, preferably, should offer the option to exclude FAs from the expansion draft pool (the option, because I can see why some expansion teams might want to draft upcoming FAs- they might then get a compensation draft pick).

endgame · 07-07-2007, 12:59 PM

Suggestion
Allow a serpentine option and/or random option in the first year player draft order.

Reason
There is a button for Use This Order for All Remaining Rounds, but it seems redundant to me as, if not clicked, the same order remains regardless. It'd be nice to be able to modify the order at the beginning of any round playing to league rationales where parity is of high import.

Priority
Medium. Important to some, not others. I'll take the middle ground. I am skeptical about the original button's functionality, though.

JerryArr · 07-09-2007, 03:00 AM

Suggestion
Allow picks to be passed and/or forfeited.

Reason
If an online league's member breaks a rule or something, the commissioner may decide the penalty is the forfeiture of a pick... I dunno why a pick would be passed voluntarily but that avenue should be locked up as well.

Priority
Medium Low

CBL-Commish · 07-09-2007, 09:23 AM

Suggestion
Have the ability to import entire draft classes from a .csv file prior to the draft.

Reason
Would make it easier to take the current MLB draft class and turn it into your league's draft class. You can continue your replay/sim into the future using real players in an alternate timeline. One person or group could enter the draft class into a file, then redistribute so everyone could use it.

Priority
Fairly high.

phenom · 07-13-2007, 09:15 AM

Suggestion
Put a "Draft This Player" option under the Action menu of a player's screen/profile

Reason
Speed, simplicity.

Priority
Low

mgom27 · 07-16-2007, 11:05 AM

Suggestion
The Rule 5 Draft like in real life
Reason
So only the people from the MLB portion get put on a MLB team and the rest in the Minors.
Priority
High

yittai · 07-16-2007, 08:34 PM

Suggestion

Players in the inaugural draft pool should be created with stats for professional seasons played prior to the start date of the game.

Reason

When you start a league with fictional players, the veterans have no stats for their careers and are therefore all but excluded from hall of fame consideration.

Priority

Seems like something that should be fairly straight forward to reverse engineer into the game. Currently you can work around by starting your league 20 years before you plan to start playing and sim-ing up to your start date but to have veteran's full career stats included from the outset would be preferable.

07-03-2007, 08:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
battists Administrator Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 13,530	Suggestions: Drafts This suggestion thread is designed to collect suggestions for the next version of OOTP, on the following topic: Drafts Includes - Features and suggestions related to drafts: inaugural, amateur, Rule 5, expansion Excludes - Non-draft stuff Instructions We will use this thread to collect suggestions on the above topic. Later on, we hope to present this information back to the community in a way that would allow you to vote and prioritize certain features. If you would like to participate, here are the rules! Only 1 suggestion per post. Suggestions must be on-topic for the thread. Constructive, non-inflammatory suggestions only. No comments on others' suggestions are necessary. That means, we don't need 15 posts in the thread saying "Great idea!" or "I agree!" Please don't link to other forum threads as your way of making suggestions. ("My suggestion can be found HERE.") If it's important enough to you that you want it in this thread, then it should be important enough to put it in the format I've asked for here! You can certainly post suggestions that conflict with or build upon earlier suggestions. Mockups are welcomed, they really help Markus see what you're interested in accomplishing. Format for Suggestions Suggestion What is your suggestion? Be as specific as possible; include the screen you're talking about, if applicable. Reason Why do you think this is important? If this is to correct what you perceive as a problem in OOTP 2007, what is that problem? Be as specific as possible. Priority In your opinion, how important is this suggestion? High (MUST have), Medium (should have), Low (nice to have)) Handy Cut-and-Paste Suggestion Form: Suggestion Reason Priority Thanks for participating! Steve

07-03-2007, 09:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
Garlon All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,018	Suggestion Base rookie draft order on team winning % over the past 3 seasons combined, instead of just previous season's record. Do not base this on # of games won over the past 3 seasons, use winning % because if you don't do this expansion teams will undeservedly get the top draft picks 3 years in a row even if they have good seasons. It would also be nice to have an NBA lottery style draft order in which the worst teams have a high likelihood of getting the top picks but not an absolute guarantee. Reason As far as I know MLB calculates the draft order based on previous 3 seasons, and it would probably lead to more competetive balance. It would also make it less tempting to have a fire sale or "throw" a season in historicals just to get a great player in next year's draft (i.e. Babe Ruth). Priority Medium __________________ Arod23Garlon2006DB available HERE 1871 Quickstart file available HERE

07-03-2007, 10:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kuttner Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Arlington, MA Posts: 95	Suggestion Create an "Inaugural Draft Preference" that allows you to set the AI to: - Heavily Favor Overall Ratings - Favor Overall Ratings - Neutral - Favor Potential Ratings - Heavily Favor Potential Ratings Or something like that. This would be similar to the "Trading Preferences" Reason This would provide the player the opportunity to determine how the AI approached the Inaugural Draft, whether to concentrate on established players or prospects, both, etc. It might go a long way to making the first few years of a fictional league more competitive. Priority Medium. __________________ Baseball Haiku: The Best Haiku Ever Written About the Game

07-04-2007, 07:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
Muzamba Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 351	Amateur Signing Period Suggestion Require amateur draftees to be signed by a given deadline or they will go back into the draft pool for next year. (I know this period used to be a full year, but I believe it just changed and will be shorter starting next year.) Reason Realism. Strategy. Priority LOW

07-04-2007, 08:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mattymo All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colchester, CT Posts: 1,232	Suggestion Have the ability to have one big draft pool, with undrafted players trickling down into other leagues. For example, if I have my MLB and ABL, all the guys that go undrafted i the MLB would then move to the ABL draft. Reason makes it more realistic. Obviously players' goal is to get drafted by the MLB, but if not they do look elsewhere to play. Priority medium. __________________ Read the "MattyMo Universe" dynasties: check out the "new WBO" here http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...42#post2297742 follow Matty Mo's career as a GM in the same "universe" http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...=1#post2248107

07-03-2007, 09:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
injury log All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 1,956	Suggestion Either a rule 5 draft report/log, as exists for the amateur draft, or an email message informing me of players lost in the Rule 5 draft. Reason If I auto-complete the Rule 5 draft, the only way to find out which players I've is by trawling through the Transactions Log, which is normally cluttered with all the same-day promotions and demotions AI teams have made in preparation for the draft. Priority Low, but would be helpful and presumably easy to implement. (note: This was recently logged as a feature request in Tech Support)

07-04-2007, 08:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mattymo All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colchester, CT Posts: 1,232	Suggestion Have high school draftees have the option to go to college instead. Reason realism. Priority low __________________ Read the "MattyMo Universe" dynasties: check out the "new WBO" here http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...42#post2297742 follow Matty Mo's career as a GM in the same "universe" http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...=1#post2248107

07-04-2007, 08:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
Garlon All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,018	Suggestion Rankable rookie draft lists. After the rookie player pool is announced, allow teams to rank the players in the draft and submit their list. When it is time for the rookie draft, the AI will automatically select the highest ranked available player on each team's draft list. Teams/managers would also have the option to draft "manually" when draft day comes and be prompted when it is their pick just as it is now. Reason This would make rookie drafts much easier for online leagues in which it is often difficult to coordinate a live draft with all of the team owners. This seems like one of the most practical features still not in the game. Priority High __________________ Arod23Garlon2006DB available HERE 1871 Quickstart file available HERE

07-04-2007, 04:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
Honolulu Blue Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 226	Suggestion More options for the expansion draft - such as the ability to pull players off the list after having one taken, limits on players taken per team, limiting the expansion pool to one subleague, and/or defining certain players to leave out of the pool (e.g. young minor leaguers with no ML experience, 10-5 guys, etc.) Reason Would add to realism for historical players; adds to options and thought involved for all players. Priority Medium

07-04-2007, 04:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
Honolulu Blue Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 226	Suggestion Customizable draft pools by quality and/or quantity Reason A large percentage of high drafted players in real life are either shortstops, center fielders, or starting pitchers. I would like to model the pool to reflect this by adding to the number of players at those positions, making them better relative to other positions, or both. Priority High

07-07-2007, 10:25 AM	#12 (permalink)
kroney37 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 131	Suggestion Stop the practice of having recently-drafted player contracts expire within a few months of the expansion draft. Reason Players don't actually leave their teams right after being drafted; allows teams to keep players they draft Priority High Last edited by kroney37 : 07-07-2007 at 10:30 AM.

07-07-2007, 10:29 AM	#13 (permalink)
kroney37 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 131	Suggestion More expansion-draft related movement. Typically, the expansion draft triggered player movement to/from the drafting teams - the draft should cause non-drafting teams to assess their situations based on who they have lost and/or who may now be available. Reason It would reflect reality somewhat better than the expansion draft periods that I've seen. Priority Low

07-07-2007, 12:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,609	Suggestion Allow a serpentine option and/or random option in the first year player draft order. Reason There is a button for Use This Order for All Remaining Rounds, but it seems redundant to me as, if not clicked, the same order remains regardless. It'd be nice to be able to modify the order at the beginning of any round playing to league rationales where parity is of high import. Priority Medium. Important to some, not others. I'll take the middle ground. I am skeptical about the original button's functionality, though. __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett We live in the shadowlands. The sun is always shining somewhere else. __________________ Last edited by endgame : 07-09-2007 at 07:01 PM.

07-09-2007, 03:00 AM	#16 (permalink)
JerryArr Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 66	Suggestion Allow picks to be passed and/or forfeited. Reason If an online league's member breaks a rule or something, the commissioner may decide the penalty is the forfeiture of a pick... I dunno why a pick would be passed voluntarily but that avenue should be locked up as well. Priority Medium Low

07-09-2007, 09:23 AM	#17 (permalink)
CBL-Commish All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,263	Suggestion Have the ability to import entire draft classes from a .csv file prior to the draft. Reason Would make it easier to take the current MLB draft class and turn it into your league's draft class. You can continue your replay/sim into the future using real players in an alternate timeline. One person or group could enter the draft class into a file, then redistribute so everyone could use it. Priority Fairly high. __________________ For the best in O's news: Orioles' Hangout.com

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07-13-2007, 09:15 AM	#18 (permalink)
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 2,668	Suggestion Put a "Draft This Player" option under the Action menu of a player's screen/profile Reason Speed, simplicity. Priority Low __________________ USBA - San Antonio Gunslingers - 2000, 2005 Liberty League Champs 2000, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007 Frontier Division Champs

07-16-2007, 11:05 AM	#19 (permalink)
mgom27 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 742	Suggestion The Rule 5 Draft like in real life Reason So only the people from the MLB portion get put on a MLB team and the rest in the Minors. Priority High __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

07-16-2007, 08:34 PM	#20 (permalink)
yittai Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1	Inaugural Draft Suggestion Players in the inaugural draft pool should be created with stats for professional seasons played prior to the start date of the game. Reason When you start a league with fictional players, the veterans have no stats for their careers and are therefore all but excluded from hall of fame consideration. Priority Seems like something that should be fairly straight forward to reverse engineer into the game. Currently you can work around by starting your league 20 years before you plan to start playing and sim-ing up to your start date but to have veteran's full career stats included from the outset would be preferable.