AI evaluation of defense

eriqjaffe · 06-04-2009, 12:43 PM

As mentioned here, there should be a way of having the AI weigh players based, in part, on their defense, in order to more accurately account for players in the Mark Belanger mold, where the player's defensive proficiency (in the manager's eyes, at least) made up for their below average hitting.

Spritze · 06-04-2009, 05:21 PM

What I don't understand is that since the Lahman DB contains a csv of all the Gold Glove winners why doesn't Markus merely added a defensive bonus based on that file to his calculated defensive abilities. It would go a long way toward making fielding leaderboards make sense, not perfect but more in line with players expectations.

pstrickert · 06-04-2009, 05:29 PM

What do you do with other players of that era such as Ed Brinkman, Freddie Patek, and Jim Mason? They also provided little offensive impact, but their managers kept them in the lineup for their defensive skills. In other words, this is not a problem limited to a single player.

Spritze · 06-04-2009, 06:30 PM

Know that, hence the not perfect notation. It would help though. Perfect would be for OOTPxi.

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06-04-2009, 05:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Spritze Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana Posts: 2,817 Thanks: 16 Thanked 306x in 217 posts	What I don't understand is that since the Lahman DB contains a csv of all the Gold Glove winners why doesn't Markus merely added a defensive bonus based on that file to his calculated defensive abilities. It would go a long way toward making fielding leaderboards make sense, not perfect but more in line with players expectations.

06-04-2009, 05:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,499 Thanks: 255 Thanked 297x in 160 posts	What do you do with other players of that era such as Ed Brinkman, Freddie Patek, and Jim Mason? They also provided little offensive impact, but their managers kept them in the lineup for their defensive skills. In other words, this is not a problem limited to a single player.

06-04-2009, 06:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Spritze Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana Posts: 2,817 Thanks: 16 Thanked 306x in 217 posts	Know that, hence the not perfect notation. It would help though. Perfect would be for OOTPxi.