Cryomaniac's OOTP 13 wishlist

[Cryomaniac]

Yep, it's that time of year again :P

As ever, keep the bickering about why things aren't real baseball out of this thread.

1 - Switch Pitching

Forgive me for battering this particular skeletal horse a little more, but as I said last year (and indeed the year before) I will keep going on about this as long as Pat Venditte is a pro baseball player. As I said last time It shouldn't be a massive task to code, but it does require some repitition on the ratings screen. Switch pitchers shouldn't be created by default, but we should be able to edit players to be them.

2 - Allow each league in a universe to use it's own Name and PbP file

Again, it's been asked for before. It obviously wouldn't effect the hard coded pbp, but it would be cool to be able to do. I wont mention one of the possible applications, since that tends to be a bit of a berserk button for some members of the board.

3 - Editable accomplishments

I figure if I keep asking for this we'll get it one day As things stand the accomplishments (20 wins, 50 HRs, etc.) assume that you are playing a modern MLB league. A lot of people don't do this. In a league which plays 28 games no-one will ever get to the levels (I think the last time I simmed such a thing the single season HR record was 14) and if you use something like a 312 game schedule (there is a schedule file for it in the mods forum...) the numbers are meaningless.

4 - Fixed and editable tie-breakers

Again, this is something of a personal gripe that has gone on a while. I haven't simmed enough seasons to know if OOTP 12 has fixed the way 3 way ties are handled, but if not then it should be fixed, or at least fix the bug that causes an extra game to be needed if you use the actual system yourself and team "C" wins. Having the option to use the real life tiebreakers or the OOTP system would be ideal. The real tie breakers should be included for up to 5 way ties, since these systems exist (Ping LGO).

There is probably more stuff, but I'll post it if it comes to me lol.

[RandyTiger]

5 - More than two subleagues to a league.

If we had the ability to have more than two subleagues per league, it would enable us to have something of a true World Classic or an International Championship. The current setup is rather limiting, at least to me.

[Cryomaniac]

6 - Extend the automatic geographic divisions thing to up to 4 divisions

Should be self-explanatory, it should do North / South / East / West for 4 divisions. If I was feeling a little insane, I'd suggest it working for 8 too (N / NE / NW / E / SE / S / SW / W)

[Le Grande Orange]

It should be noted that the division alignment thing, if I understand its workings correctly, is simply taking the list of member cities, sorting by either latitude or longitude, then splitting the list at points equalling the number of teams for a division.

So it ought to work for however many divisions you have. It doesn't do 'real' divisional groupings, i.e. southwest cites in a southwest division, northeast cities in a northeast division, etc. (At least, I don't think it does unless Markus programmed more functionality in than the simple system originally suggested.)

[Cryomaniac]

When I started a league with 4 divisions, it named them Eastern, Western, Division 3 and Division 4.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

When I started a league with 4 divisions, it named them Eastern, Western, Division 3 and Division 4.

But were the cities arranged on a pretty much straight line east to west longitude basis within those divisions? That is, were the westernmost cities actually in Division 4?

If so, then it's a naming convention thing for more than two divisions. East and West are certainly straightforward enough with only two divisions. For more than that there'd have to be choices as to what ought to be selected by default as divisional names, e.g. Central if there were three divisions. Four divisions might involve an Atlantic, East, West, and Pacific. Or Atlantic, East, Midwest, West. Or Atlantic, East, Central, West. Or East, Central, West, Pacific. Etc.

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

But were the cities arranged on a pretty much straight line east to west longitude basis within those divisions? That is, were the westernmost cities actually in Division 4?

It seems to do that, yes. Sometimes it gives you East, Central and West, sometimes just East and West. It doesn't seem to name any more than three divisions.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

It seems to do that, yes. Sometimes it gives you East, Central and West, sometimes just East and West. It doesn't seem to name any more than three divisions.

Probably for the reason I mentioned. East, Central, and West is easy enough (or North, Central, South if a league is oriented in that direction). But for four divisions there is no universal word that'd fit. Atlantic wouldn't make much sense for a league based in Germany, for example.

If we could come up with some generic yet appropriate choice for a fourth division, we can perhaps get that added to the default division naming list.

[Muzamba]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

If we could come up with some generic yet appropriate choice for a fourth division, we can perhaps get that added to the default division naming list.

I realize these aren't ideal, but I think they would be generic enough to cover any geographic region...

3 Divisions:
Eastern / Northern
Central
Western / Southern

4 Divisions:
Eastern / Northern
East Central / North Central
West Central / South Central
Western / Southern

5 Divisions:
Eastern / Northern
East Central / North Central
Central
West Central / South Central
Western / Southern

6 Divisions:
Eastern / Northern
Mid-Eastern / Mid-Northern
East Central / North Central
West Central / South Central
Mid-Western / Mid-Southern
Western / Southern

7 Divisions:
Eastern / Northern
Mid-Eastern / Mid-Northern
East Central / North Central
Central
West Central / South Central
Mid-Western / Mid-Southern
Western / Southern

8 Divisions:
Far Eastern / Far Northern
Eastern / Northern
Mid-Eastern / Mid-Northern
East Central / North Central
West Central / South Central
Mid-Western / Mid-Southern
Western / Southern
Far Western / Far Southern

9 Divisions:
Far Eastern / Far Northern
Eastern / Northern
Mid-Eastern / Mid-Northern
East Central / North Central
Central
West Central / South Central
Mid-Western / Mid-Southern
Western / Southern
Far Western / Far Southern

If there are any number of divisions beyond 9, it could just start using numbers behind the Eastern/Northern and Western/Southern.

For example...

10 Divisions:
Far Eastern / Far Northern
Eastern Division 1 / Northern Division 1
Eastern Division 2 / Northern Division 2
Mid-Eastern / Mid-Northern
East Central / North Central
West Central / South Central
Mid-Western / Mid-Southern
Western Division 1 / Southern Division 1
Western Division 2 / Southern Division 2
Far Western / Far Southern

[Cryomaniac]

7 - have some form of "ethnicity by year" database

I'm pretty sure the figures exist to allow this, at least for the US and the UK, and it would allow people to do more realistic fictional historical leagues (and don't want say Hispanic names in the US in 1880). I appreciate that it would be quite a task to put such a file together, but I think it would be worth it if it means that you don't have to hard code modern US ethnicities.

[cephasjames]

Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

3 - Editable accomplishments

I figure if I keep asking for this we'll get it one day As things stand the accomplishments (20 wins, 50 HRs, etc.) assume that you are playing a modern MLB league. A lot of people don't do this. In a league which plays 28 games no-one will ever get to the levels (I think the last time I simmed such a thing the single season HR record was 14) and if you use something like a 312 game schedule (there is a schedule file for it in the mods forum...) the numbers are meaningless.

yes. Yes. YES.

[cephasjames]

Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

7 - have some form of "ethnicity by year" database

I'm pretty sure the figures exist to allow this, at least for the US and the UK, and it would allow people to do more realistic fictional historical leagues (and don't want say Hispanic names in the US in 1880). I appreciate that it would be quite a task to put such a file together, but I think it would be worth it if it means that you don't have to hard code modern US ethnicities.

I did ethnicites by decade for the US (1870-2010 Decade by decade ethinicities.txt). I had to fudge a bit because up until 1980 the US records pretty much just had "white", (some form of) "black" and "other". But the ethnicity breakdown in the general population has never matched up with the ethnicity breakdown in baseball. So, since OOTP really only cares about baseball, that'd have to be figured out. Other than that I'm totally down with this idea.