How I think Scouting Reports Should Look

PSUColonel · 12-21-2011, 08:39 PM

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Chicagofan76 · 12-22-2011, 05:31 AM

Ok this 1 I do like, but it does lack the full info that the current scouting has.

PSUColonel · 12-22-2011, 08:36 AM

Yes, but more can always be added in if we wanted. I like it because it has a bit more ambiguity. You have stats, you have a brief summary telling you strengths & weaknesses, for pitchers, a list of pitches should be included, and there should be a written description of how effective those pitches are, and so on. Maybe OOTP should get away from the numerical ratings, and go this route instead. To me, having both too often creates contradiction between text, and numerical ratings.

PSUColonel · 12-22-2011, 03:38 PM

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HITTING - LaMarre hits from the right side and uses his quick hands and level swing to make consistently solid contact. He's struck out a respectable 14.8% of the time in his college career. An exceptionally aggressive hitter, LaMarre walked only 4 times in 2010 (2.7 BB%), and he'll need to be more selective as a professional or pitchers will abuse that aggressiveness. He has shown plate dicipline in the past. In 2009 he walked 33 times to go with 36 strikeouts. LaMarre stays back on curve balls and can drive them to right field, and he punishes fastballs on the inner half.

POWER - LaMarre has hit for above average power in college and that trend could continue as a professional because of his quick hands and forearm strength. He may have more power than what he's shown this season as a broken thumb that caused him to miss 18 games earlier this year may be adversely effecting his swing.

SPEED - LaMarre has some of the best speed in this draft class and it should be playable at any defensive position. On the basepaths however, he's been caught stealing 15 times in 43 attempts in his college career including being caught 5 times in 12 attempts this season.

ARM - LaMarre's arm is rated as average and suitable for a move to CF as a professional. In my limited sample the arm seemed to be below average but I'd need to see more to be comfortable giving out any grade.

DEFENSE - LaMarre possesses the instincts and athleticism to play CF and while I may be a doubter, if scouts didn't feel he had the arm for CF, he wouldn't be shooting up the draft boards as quickly as he has.

FUTURE - Like Kolbrin Vitek, the lack of inpact bats in this college draft class is a contributing factor to LaMarre's vault up the draft board. That's not to take away from LaMarre's talent which is obvious to anyone who watches him play. His athletisism stands out next to his Big 10 Conference peers. LaMarre could go anywhere from the late first round to the early third, where I think he has the ability to become a starting left fielder for a big league club if he can harness some of that aggressivness and be more selective at the plate.

SandMan · 12-22-2011, 04:39 PM

The game already gives you a written scouting report. Why change it with the only change being more words. I want to spend my time playing the game and not reading a book on each individual player. Sometimes more is too much.

Chicagofan76 · 12-22-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

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HITTING - LaMarre hits from the right side and uses his quick hands and level swing to make consistently solid contact. He's struck out a respectable 14.8% of the time in his college career. An exceptionally aggressive hitter, LaMarre walked only 4 times in 2010 (2.7 BB%), and he'll need to be more selective as a professional or pitchers will abuse that aggressiveness. He has shown plate dicipline in the past. In 2009 he walked 33 times to go with 36 strikeouts. LaMarre stays back on curve balls and can drive them to right field, and he punishes fastballs on the inner half.

POWER - LaMarre has hit for above average power in college and that trend could continue as a professional because of his quick hands and forearm strength. He may have more power than what he's shown this season as a broken thumb that caused him to miss 18 games earlier this year may be adversely effecting his swing.

SPEED - LaMarre has some of the best speed in this draft class and it should be playable at any defensive position. On the basepaths however, he's been caught stealing 15 times in 43 attempts in his college career including being caught 5 times in 12 attempts this season.

ARM - LaMarre's arm is rated as average and suitable for a move to CF as a professional. In my limited sample the arm seemed to be below average but I'd need to see more to be comfortable giving out any grade.

DEFENSE - LaMarre possesses the instincts and athleticism to play CF and while I may be a doubter, if scouts didn't feel he had the arm for CF, he wouldn't be shooting up the draft boards as quickly as he has.

FUTURE - Like Kolbrin Vitek, the lack of inpact bats in this college draft class is a contributing factor to LaMarre's vault up the draft board. That's not to take away from LaMarre's talent which is obvious to anyone who watches him play. His athletisism stands out next to his Big 10 Conference peers. LaMarre could go anywhere from the late first round to the early third, where I think he has the ability to become a starting left fielder for a big league club if he can harness some of that aggressivness and be more selective at the plate.

I am 50/50 on this...there are aspects that I love such as the college stats but like Sandman it's too wordy and i dont think would fit in the box allocated for it and i dont think the game has the ability to quote stats.

EvilGenius · 12-24-2011, 11:18 PM

I can tell you one change I would like to see implemented in the scouting report .... a bit more refinement in regards age.

With prospects, the scout will tell you PlayerA has a huge potential, expect him to compete for awards.

But with aging players, the scout does NOT tell you that PlayerB is probably on the downside of his career. May have another good year or two ahead of him, but expect rapidly deteriorating skills after that.

Mr. Baseball · 12-26-2011, 02:05 AM

Has anyone else noticed the scouting reports are often an oxymoron?

Sometimes you'll see a summary saying the player is a 'career journeyman at best'...but then the rest of the report praises his abilities.

PSUColonel · 12-26-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Baseball

Has anyone else noticed the scouting reports are often an oxymoron?

Sometimes you'll see a summary saying the player is a 'career journeyman at best'...but then the rest of the report praises his abilities.

yes, and is also very contrary to the numerical values given on lower scales.

Desertdback · 01-03-2012, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Baseball

Has anyone else noticed the scouting reports are often an oxymoron?

Sometimes you'll see a summary saying the player is a 'career journeyman at best'...but then the rest of the report praises his abilities.

Or my favorite is he has a stamina of four or five and the reports states he would be a great starter in the league for many years to come. Just because the guy is good at pitching more then two pitches well, doesn't mean he has the stamina to be a starter in the major leagues !

Le Grande Orange · 01-03-2012, 01:22 PM

Some time ago there was a thread which posted actual past MLB scouting reports of players. These were quite interesting, and as I recall there was a generally favourable reaction to them.

Qwerty75 · 01-07-2012, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Yes, but more can always be added in if we wanted. I like it because it has a bit more ambiguity. You have stats, you have a brief summary telling you strengths & weaknesses, for pitchers, a list of pitches should be included, and there should be a written description of how effective those pitches are, and so on. Maybe OOTP should get away from the numerical ratings, and go this route instead. To me, having both too often creates contradiction between text, and numerical ratings.

Don't think you'll ever eliminate numerical ratings completely; it simply makes gameplay easier and more user-friendly. I'm all for improved scouting reports, but eliminating ratings would kill the game for a large portion of its market.

flatjacket1 · 01-08-2012, 08:39 PM

I agree that scouting is the one area this OOTP13 should feature huge improvements in, and that there should be a new type of scouting report. I think it should be a more traditional type though (The Art of Scouting: How to Compile a Professional Scouting Report - Beyond the Box Score).

I would suggest that there are like 150 different lines which are compiled that say different things about potential etc etc. and each player gets 8-10 (like a typical scouting report).

Marinersfan51 · 01-08-2012, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by flatjacket1

(The Art of Scouting: How to Compile a Professional Scouting Report - Beyond the Box Score).

That looks great, that final report is exactly how I would want them to look.

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Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Scheduleslovakia Posts: 10,233 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1,185x in 702 posts	Some time ago there was a thread which posted actual past MLB scouting reports of players. These were quite interesting, and as I recall there was a generally favourable reaction to them. __________________ . "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things not because they are easy, but because they are hard. Because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our abilities and skills, because that challenge is one we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win." .

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12-22-2011, 05:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Thanks: 3,340 Thanked 571x in 500 posts Infractions: 2/2 (3)	Ok this 1 I do like, but it does lack the full info that the current scouting has.

12-22-2011, 08:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,985 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 163 Thanked 234x in 140 posts	Yes, but more can always be added in if we wanted. I like it because it has a bit more ambiguity. You have stats, you have a brief summary telling you strengths & weaknesses, for pitchers, a list of pitches should be included, and there should be a written description of how effective those pitches are, and so on. Maybe OOTP should get away from the numerical ratings, and go this route instead. To me, having both too often creates contradiction between text, and numerical ratings.

12-22-2011, 03:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,985 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 163 Thanked 234x in 140 posts	Similar to this: HITTING - LaMarre hits from the right side and uses his quick hands and level swing to make consistently solid contact. He's struck out a respectable 14.8% of the time in his college career. An exceptionally aggressive hitter, LaMarre walked only 4 times in 2010 (2.7 BB%), and he'll need to be more selective as a professional or pitchers will abuse that aggressiveness. He has shown plate dicipline in the past. In 2009 he walked 33 times to go with 36 strikeouts. LaMarre stays back on curve balls and can drive them to right field, and he punishes fastballs on the inner half. POWER - LaMarre has hit for above average power in college and that trend could continue as a professional because of his quick hands and forearm strength. He may have more power than what he's shown this season as a broken thumb that caused him to miss 18 games earlier this year may be adversely effecting his swing. SPEED - LaMarre has some of the best speed in this draft class and it should be playable at any defensive position. On the basepaths however, he's been caught stealing 15 times in 43 attempts in his college career including being caught 5 times in 12 attempts this season. ARM - LaMarre's arm is rated as average and suitable for a move to CF as a professional. In my limited sample the arm seemed to be below average but I'd need to see more to be comfortable giving out any grade. DEFENSE - LaMarre possesses the instincts and athleticism to play CF and while I may be a doubter, if scouts didn't feel he had the arm for CF, he wouldn't be shooting up the draft boards as quickly as he has. FUTURE - Like Kolbrin Vitek, the lack of inpact bats in this college draft class is a contributing factor to LaMarre's vault up the draft board. That's not to take away from LaMarre's talent which is obvious to anyone who watches him play. His athletisism stands out next to his Big 10 Conference peers. LaMarre could go anywhere from the late first round to the early third, where I think he has the ability to become a starting left fielder for a big league club if he can harness some of that aggressivness and be more selective at the plate.

12-22-2011, 04:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
SandMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin Posts: 2,490 Thanks: 220 Thanked 142x in 110 posts	The game already gives you a written scouting report. Why change it with the only change being more words. I want to spend my time playing the game and not reading a book on each individual player. Sometimes more is too much.

12-24-2011, 11:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
EvilGenius Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 71 Thanks: 2 Thanked 31x in 15 posts	I can tell you one change I would like to see implemented in the scouting report .... a bit more refinement in regards age. With prospects, the scout will tell you PlayerA has a huge potential, expect him to compete for awards. But with aging players, the scout does NOT tell you that PlayerB is probably on the downside of his career. May have another good year or two ahead of him, but expect rapidly deteriorating skills after that.

01-08-2012, 08:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
flatjacket1 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 1 post	I agree that scouting is the one area this OOTP13 should feature huge improvements in, and that there should be a new type of scouting report. I think it should be a more traditional type though (The Art of Scouting: How to Compile a Professional Scouting Report - Beyond the Box Score). I would suggest that there are like 150 different lines which are compiled that say different things about potential etc etc. and each player gets 8-10 (like a typical scouting report).