Stats/Ratings for GM's

[THESPORTSGUY]

Hey Everyone,

would love to see more stats related to the GM, maybe as a GM rating feature. So as we make trades, rating would increase if players become stars, or ratings drop if we were to release a player who becomes a star elsewhere. The draft could be incororprtated into this as well. Would be interesting to be able to track a GM's moves, signings, releases, trades, draft, etc. This could incorroprorate contract negotiations as well. I would find it interesting as well if i was to release players, to see if those players ended up becomming stars elsewhere, this could affect the GM ratings...Each GM in MLB is graded/evaluated on their overall performance, this would make the GM more accountable with a rating...any thoughts ?

Would also like to be able to trade more than 5 players at a time as well as do 3-way team trades! thats all for now

[GameTime]

This is the worst idea.

[ShaneCarson]

Originally Posted by GameTime

This is the worst idea.

Well that was constructive.


At any rate, I'm really into GM personalities. Tendencies to hold on to prospects, look towards veterans, spend a lot, build via trade, etc. I think this would make for a great dynamic with owner personalities. Maybe you strike gold like Tampa Bay has and your fiscal owner can pair up with someone like Andrew Friedman.

I don't like the idea of increasing ratings, ala MLB Front Office Manager. That would give it way too much of an arcade or RPG feel for me, something I'm not terribly into.

[Honorable_Pawn]

I like the idea.




Why don't you take some time right here in this thread and flesh this out a little bit. It may not make it into the game but I bet everyone could have fun coming up with ideas.

And others can have fun pointing weaknesses.

[landru22]

I too like the idea of ratings for General Managers. Though it is true that their style is dictated by their financial backing, it would be interesting to me to have ratings that would work in conjunction with their financial support. For example: if a gm like Billy Beans had a lot of money to work with how would that work with his gm style.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by THESPORTSGUY

Hey Everyone,

would love to see more stats related to the GM, maybe as a GM rating feature. So as we make trades, rating would increase if players become stars, or ratings drop if we were to release a player who becomes a star elsewhere. The draft could be incororprtated into this as well. Would be interesting to be able to track a GM's moves, signings, releases, trades, draft, etc. This could incorroprorate contract negotiations as well. I would find it interesting as well if i was to release players, to see if those players ended up becomming stars elsewhere, this could affect the GM ratings...Each GM in MLB is graded/evaluated on their overall performance, this would make the GM more accountable with a rating...any thoughts ?

The game already does this but perhaps not in the way you like.

See Out of the Park Baseball Manual

You need to add flesh to the bones of this idea. How often would the GM rating be updated? Weekly monthly yearly? How many ratings would a GM have. Trading, draft, FA signings, financial results, not running out of IF and so on....... Would there be an overall rating? If so what % of other ratings would apply?

I'm firmly against any quick and/or any fine scale rating change in response to any single or even a group of transactions. Since the results of a trade/transaction could take 5 years to be known, how would any of this be useful in evaluating individual GM's? If a player is released by multiple GM's and blossoms into a star do all GM's take the same hit?

Consider this: you trade a surplus IF prospect with talent but no options in ST and he lucks into an open spot on a good team and tears it up, almost RoY winner. Meantime the average MR prospect (3 options) you got in return does nothing for 2 seasons but eventually works his way onto the active roster 4-5 seasons later and has a solid MLB career. BTW the open 40 man roster spot from the trade was given to a long shot prospect who was Rule 5 eligible and eventually made the majors with similar success as the original IF.

Too bad you got fired the season before either player made it. Assuming the original IF prospect traded was good/great an AS but not HoF, how would you score each GM on the trade? When would each GM's rating reflect that score? After 1 or 2 or 5 seasons, or incrementally? What objective scale would one use to determine the + or - each GM would get for each trade, signing, release or draft choice. If any of the players in the above trade get traded again before the outcome is clear, how would the original GM(s) ratings change to reflect the fuzzy outcome? Certainly no GM should be evaluated on the success (+ or -) of a player they didn't trade or draft? Right? Same with injuries especially after a trade. If a traded player takes a ratings hit does that mean the GM who traded for them gets a ratings hit for the trade? If so then any prospect that flames out should also cost the GM at the time.

Given that each GM makes (my guess) minimum 90-100 transactions per season, there are 2700-3000 transactions that would have to be monitored and evaluated for multiple seasons and cumulatively until the outcome of each transaction is known.

Big job. I'd be inclined to favor more baseball game play and strategy work be done as a higher priority.

YMMV