HOF: Mike Mussina? - Page 11

darkhorse · 09-16-2007, 04:45 PM

The notion that the Hall of Fame is for players who've accumulated the highest level of "fame", how does one measure fame by the way, instead of performance seems fanciful.

kq76 · 11-26-2008, 12:58 PM

Going back to the post in this thread (by whom I forget) about their personal account of an interaction with Mike Mussina, I read this today:

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Cito Gaston's least favourite human being, former Oriole and Yankee starter Mike Mussina has called it a career after 18 seasons and 270 wins. So the debate now begins, whether or not 'The Moose' belongs among the greats of the game in the Hall of Fame. I say NO. His career win total only ranks him 33rd all-time and if Bert Blyleven with 287 wins and 3,701 strikeouts (fifth all-time) can't get in with his numbers then Mussina's doesn't quite cut it either. Plus, in my 16 seasons on the baseball beat, I never came across a more condescending athlete than Mussina. I witnessed him talking down to many sportswriters and broadcasters.

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I'm curious as to what it was exactly that pissed Cito off about Mussina, but it sounds like it wasn't just a person here or there. I wonder if the Moose was even a clubhouse cancer.

Now whether someone is a great guy or jerk should or shouldn't matter to getting into the hall, I don't know, but I thought I'd pass this on nonetheless.

Russ · 11-26-2008, 02:40 PM

Cito's dislike of Moose probably happened at the All-Star game at Camden Yards in 93. Mussina got up in the pen to warm up and try to force himself into the game. Cito wouldn't bring him in. There were a bunch of t shirts around Baltimore that said,"**** Cito".

His Own Bad Self · 11-26-2008, 04:49 PM

How many players worth about 130 wins over replacement in their careers still aren't HoFers?

Dargone · 11-30-2008, 04:30 PM

The guy seems like a lock to me. Very good career over many years...

View Poll Results: Mike Mussina for the Hall?
Yes	18	20.22%
No	40	44.94%
Too close to call right now	29	32.58%
I don't care	2	2.25%
Voters: 89. You may not vote on this poll

09-16-2007, 04:45 PM	#201 (permalink)
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,668 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 3 posts	The notion that the Hall of Fame is for players who've accumulated the highest level of "fame", how does one measure fame by the way, instead of performance seems fanciful. __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

11-26-2008, 02:40 PM	#203 (permalink)
Russ All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Essex HON! Posts: 1,915 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 34 Thanked 48x in 42 posts Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Cito's dislike of Moose probably happened at the All-Star game at Camden Yards in 93. Mussina got up in the pen to warm up and try to force himself into the game. Cito wouldn't bring him in. There were a bunch of t shirts around Baltimore that said,"**** Cito". __________________ If you don't love Russ, you don't love America. This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.

11-26-2008, 04:49 PM	#204 (permalink)
His Own Bad Self All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,209 Blog Entries: 12 Thanks: 15 Thanked 14x in 9 posts	How many players worth about 130 wins over replacement in their careers still aren't HoFers? __________________ I own a team at buzzerbeater.com. If you like basketball, you should own one, too.

11-30-2008, 04:30 PM	#205 (permalink)
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,681 Thanks: 0 Thanked 43x in 15 posts	The guy seems like a lock to me. Very good career over many years... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

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