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Micah Owings
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Micah Owings Statistics - Baseball-Reference.com Keeping sample size in mind...could he end up being the best hitting pitcher since Ruth? Edit: This should be a poll. Damn it.
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I would say yes. Anyone who is brought into to pinch hit with other position players still on the bench like last nights game, and then delivers an opposite field two run homer gets my vote. Micah Owings can rake. When he's on the mound, the D'backs are basically an American League lineup.
This would go to Rick Ankiel, but he's no longer technically a pitcher.
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I nominate him to replace Ross Gload as King Clutch.
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The thing is he's not just clutch. Again, it's only 79 at bats, but he's hitting .354/.373/.671 for his career.
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Heh, I was about to come here & post on this exact same topic, with the exact same question! Spooky. Anyway, yes, he looks good. His minors stats aren't as impressive, power-wise, but he still hit pretty well:
Micah Owings Statistics (Minor Leagues) - Baseball-Reference.com Anyone know what his college numbers were like? (Not that they can tell us that much.)
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He's a good hitter. But, the best since Ruth? Might be a stretch. Red Ruffing was used a few times a year as a PH for example. Maybe not the same power, though. Bob Gibson did have some good power though.
At least it means there was one pitcher in the league, I wont be going to get a snack during his 3 bunts fouled off strikeout at-bat. He might actually do something.
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His 2005 line with Tulane was monstrous.
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Maybe he should move to AL and DH on non-pitching days to minimize injury risk. On pitching days the team just give up DH.
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He's got 2 BB tonight, the last on a 12 pitch at bat. That's just not right.
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Problem with this is when he leaves the game for a reliever (6th inning?), your relievers will bat unless you use a pinch hitter. Which isn't a big deal unless one of your multiple inning guys comes to bat.
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Comparing the two options in NL, where he either don't hit on non-pitching days or have to field on non-pitching days, it's still a much better deal.
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There have been some pitchers who have stood head-and-shoulders above their contemporary pitchers as far as hitting ability goes, but really they were still generally poor hitters when compared to position players. Thusfar, Micah has hit better than most contemporary position players, to the extent that I think it's worth keeping an eye on his hitting to see how/if he progresses.
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Melvin actually toyed with the idea during spring training and the off season. Tried him out in the OF and at 1B to see where he can get him more AB's.
Melvin's got a nice situation going. Dan Haren can handle the bat as well. that gives him 6-7 bats off the bench. In the NL that's a huge asset...esp if he's looking for a sac in the late innings or something. Of course we all say this until the first time one of them gets hurt in a pinch hitting role and we all rake on Melvin for using a pitcher from the rotation with other bats still available on the bench.
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I wonder if some GM would have the balls to find fill a 25 man roster with two way players.
Pitchers who were good enough to play in the field and get 600 AB a season. Even if you could find...5 such players you could run the team with a much lower payroll by finding 5 young kids as roll players and paying them min salary.
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