Gruden and Allen gone

[mgom27]

No Dungy is not coming back or even Shanhan is coming as you people were hoping.

[Tribe Fan 24]

WTF is going on in Tampa? That move makes no sense to me.

I know that they lost Kiffin to Tennessee, but Gruden is a very good coach.

Mind-blowing!

[The Professor]

I'm not sold on Gruden. He hasn't done a great deal since winning the 2002 Super Bowl - and the more he's put his stamp on the franchise, the more mediocre it has become, primarily because he has had nothing but a revolving door at QB -- a position where he seems to like stockpiling personnel, but one he doesn't seem very good at developing or being loyal to.

Brad Johnson from Super Bowl to out, two stints with Brian Griese, Chris Simms (who, admittedly, got hurt), Bruce Gradkowski (by default thanks to injury), and then Jeff Garcia with Griese seeing plenty of action.

Unfortuantely for Gruden, most of these guys were either past their prime or too inexperienced. Another Rich Gannon never walked through the door. And I think not being able to convince Jake Plummer to come on board hurt. Though it is only fair to acknolwedge that Gruden's teams have been hit hard by injury over the year (at QB and at RB), it also appears that people are not eager to go play for Gruden, especially if they are going to be playing in his offense --- and now that Monte Kiffin is gone, I'm not surprised the powers that be in Tampa want to make a change.

Promoting Raheem Morris from in-the-house, though, is an interesting pick. Also interesting that they waited this long to pull the trigger, after some of the hottest coaching prospects had already landed elsewhere and restricting, to some degree, the potential landing places for Gruden.

The Jets job hasn't been filled. Leslie Frazier is reportedly "in" at St. Louis. A return to his philosophical roots in San Francisco, or cutting the rug out from Jim Mora Jr. in Seattle and replacing his mentor, might seem like particularly attractive/obvious options, but those teams would have to abandon current committments to make that happen.

There is always TV. Chuckie...er, Gruden, would make an interesting analyst for a season or two.

[Syd Thrift]

There are probably less popular potential coaching choices for the Seahawks than Chuckie, but I'm having trouble thinking of any. John Elway isn't interested in coaching, is he?

[The Professor]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

There are probably less popular potential coaching choices for the Seahawks than Chuckie, but I'm having trouble thinking of any. John Elway isn't interested in coaching, is he?

Maybe Clay Bennett (if he wanted to be a coach. And in a different sport)?

I'm not sure anyone would be too quick to grab Gruden as Head Coach. He may need to take a year off. At this point, I suspect it is Jets or bust for him for 2009.

EDIT:

Leslie Frazier is reportedly "in" at St. Louis

What do I know? Nothing.

That's what I get for buying the whispers from the rumor mill. The Rams hired Steve Spagnuolo.

[BaseballMan]

Originally Posted by The Professor

I'm not sold on Gruden. He hasn't done a great deal since winning the 2002 Super Bowl - and the more he's put his stamp on the franchise, the more mediocre it has become, primarily because he has had nothing but a revolving door at QB -- a position where he seems to like stockpiling personnel, but one he doesn't seem very good at developing or being loyal to.

Brad Johnson from Super Bowl to out, two stints with Brian Griese, Chris Simms (who, admittedly, got hurt), Bruce Gradkowski (by default thanks to injury), and then Jeff Garcia with Griese seeing plenty of action.

Unfortuantely for Gruden, most of these guys were either past their prime or too inexperienced. Another Rich Gannon never walked through the door. And I think not being able to convince Jake Plummer to come on board hurt. Though it is only fair to acknolwedge that Gruden's teams have been hit hard by injury over the year (at QB and at RB), it also appears that people are not eager to go play for Gruden, especially if they are going to be playing in his offense --- and now that Monte Kiffin is gone, I'm not surprised the powers that be in Tampa want to make a change.

Promoting Raheem Morris from in-the-house, though, is an interesting pick. Also interesting that they waited this long to pull the trigger, after some of the hottest coaching prospects had already landed elsewhere and restricting, to some degree, the potential landing places for Gruden.

The Jets job hasn't been filled. Leslie Frazier is reportedly "in" at St. Louis. A return to his philosophical roots in San Francisco, or cutting the rug out from Jim Mora Jr. in Seattle and replacing his mentor, might seem like particularly attractive/obvious options, but those teams would have to abandon current committments to make that happen.

There is always TV. Chuckie...er, Gruden, would make an interesting analyst for a season or two.

I kinda agree but i dont think Tampa would spend the money on players as
the raiders would have. If he had stayed in Oakland he probably would have had his team in more playoffs. He may have got a lot of players from Dungy in Tampa but when he came to Oakland in 98 he had to build the team.