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Jason Moyer · 02-08-2009, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spark240

Which medium is that, the one that broke the Bonds story (newspaper), the one that broke this story (magazine), or the web-only outfits? BBWAA is all of these.

Which web writers have votes? And what about radio and TV broadcasters? And non-newspaper writers? Outside of journalism, why don't the fans or the players have a voice? Or baseball executives, labor leaders, etc. Surely newspaper guys aren't the only people who know something about baseball.

MorseMoose · 02-09-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Moyer

Which web writers have votes? And what about radio and TV broadcasters? And non-newspaper writers? Outside of journalism, why don't the fans or the players have a voice? Or baseball executives, labor leaders, etc. Surely newspaper guys aren't the only people who know something about baseball.

Web-only:

Will Carroll, Christina Kahrl, Rob Neyer, and Keith Law

Jason Moyer · 02-09-2009, 04:19 PM

Rob Neyer has a vote? When did this happen?

On topic:

Alex Rodriguez admits taking PEDs during 3-year period - ESPN

A Rod mans up and admits to taking while in Texas, and to lying to Katie Couric about it.

Russ · 02-09-2009, 04:31 PM

Good enough for me. Let's move on.

CommishJoe · 02-09-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Moyer

Rob Neyer has a vote? When did this happen?

On topic:

Alex Rodriguez admits taking PEDs during 3-year period - ESPN

A Rod mans up and admits to taking while in Texas, and to lying to Katie Couric about it.

Probably the smartest decision he's ever made (telling the truth now, not taking the drugs in the first place. Figured I'd better clarify

).

Tony M · 02-09-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ

Good enough for me. Let's move on.

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thomamon · 02-09-2009, 06:06 PM

Everyone knows I've never been an A-Rod fan. But I respect him more today then I ever had.

Instead of being a cry baby and denying it he came out and admitted it, which is the best thing he could have done.

What gets me most is that they were promised these results should have never come out and they can never be punished for what was found at that time. I would think he should have some sort of a lawsuit against someone for this, he's been violated. If anything, I lose more respect for Bud Selig and his office for letting this out.

AirmenSmith · 02-09-2009, 06:26 PM

I want him out of baseball along with the other cheats.

thomamon · 02-09-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

I want him out of baseball along with the other cheats.

It wasn't cheating at the time.

BruceM · 02-09-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

It wasn't cheating at the time.

It may not have been cheating according to the rules of baseball, but that's about all it wasn't cheating to.

How about - cheating yourself, cheating your fellow players, cheating your fans, and the list goes on and on.

EMSoccerCoach · 02-09-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

I want him out of baseball along with the other cheats.

Kick Mays, Mantle and Aaron out of the Hall

AirmenSmith · 02-09-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EMSoccerCoach

Kick Mays, Mantle and Aaron out of the Hall

Ok with me if we find out they cheated to.

EMSoccerCoach · 02-09-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

Ok with me if we find out they cheated to.

There's no doubt amphetamines were taken by them and hordes of others.

The Professor · 02-09-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

Ok with me if we find out they cheated to.

And everyone who ever corked a bat or doctored a ball?

satchel · 02-09-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

If anything, I lose more respect for Bud Selig and his office for letting this out.

You still had some respect for Bud Selig?

thomamon · 02-09-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by satchel

You still had some respect for Bud Selig?

Good point.

RBLwebguy · 02-09-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

Everyone knows I've never been an A-Rod fan. But I respect him more today then I ever had.

Instead of being a cry baby and denying it he came out and admitted it, which is the best thing he could have done.

What gets me most is that they were promised these results should have never come out and they can never be punished for what was found at that time. I would think he should have some sort of a lawsuit against someone for this, he's been violated. If anything, I lose more respect for Bud Selig and his office for letting this out.

Come on, he had no choice, he was backed into a corner. I doubt that it ended in 2003 as well. Sadly that is the culture and unless there is proof, they all deny it.

Clemens, McGuire and Bonds just didn't play the game the right way and fess up like Giambi did.

AirmenSmith · 02-09-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor

And everyone who ever corked a bat or doctored a ball?

Fine with me because if they are cheating then I believe there was a good chance they had been doing it for awhile. As long as there is proof.

Jason Moyer · 02-09-2009, 07:56 PM

If you kicked every cheater out of the hall of fame I think you'd basically end up with Christy Mathewson and that's it.

darkenigma510 · 02-09-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

I want him out of baseball along with the other cheats.

Guess we will have a whole league of replacement players, then.

It would be 1995 Redux

02-09-2009, 04:19 PM	#63 (permalink)
Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 4,331 Thanked 8x in 5 posts	Rob Neyer has a vote? When did this happen? On topic: Alex Rodriguez admits taking PEDs during 3-year period - ESPN A Rod mans up and admits to taking while in Texas, and to lying to Katie Couric about it. __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "In 1973, the year I first ran for Congress, the House Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce concluded a year-long investigation that found--and I quote--'drug use exists...in all sports and levels of competition...In some instances, the danger of improper drug use--primarily amphetamines and anabolic steroids--can only be described as alarming'" -- Henry Waxman

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AirmenSmith All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 864 Thanked 44x in 18 posts	I want him out of baseball along with the other cheats. __________________ Go to ITP forums and show your support while we wait for ITP 2 information which should come soon!

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Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 4,331 Thanked 8x in 5 posts	If you kicked every cheater out of the hall of fame I think you'd basically end up with Christy Mathewson and that's it. __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "In 1973, the year I first ran for Congress, the House Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce concluded a year-long investigation that found--and I quote--'drug use exists...in all sports and levels of competition...In some instances, the danger of improper drug use--primarily amphetamines and anabolic steroids--can only be described as alarming'" -- Henry Waxman

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thomamon Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 4,780 Thanked 12x in 6 posts	Everyone knows I've never been an A-Rod fan. But I respect him more today then I ever had. Instead of being a cry baby and denying it he came out and admitted it, which is the best thing he could have done. What gets me most is that they were promised these results should have never come out and they can never be punished for what was found at that time. I would think he should have some sort of a lawsuit against someone for this, he's been violated. If anything, I lose more respect for Bud Selig and his office for letting this out.

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