The Official New York Yankees 2009 Season Thread - Page 23

NYY #23 · 10-10-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

An inconsistent strike zone is one thing. Bad calls are another. Bad calls that aren't even close are completely a different thing.

A walk that should have been a strike out can make a big difference. They go both ways though, and I don't buy the "ump cost us the game" argument.

I agree it was a terrible call made by a guy who has one job in the game and did it wrong. He should be fined, disciplined or whatever. Bucknor's blown call was just as bad. Baseball should do whatever it can to fix the problem.

But with Mauer on second, Kubel is walked to keep the double play option. I still think the end results is bases loaded nobody out either way.

Jonzard · 10-10-2009, 01:07 AM

You don't walk with no outs and a man on second in the top of an inning. The double play option is something one would pursue with 1 out.

NYY #23 · 10-10-2009, 01:18 AM

With a lefty coming up and Marte in the game I would have walked him and brought in Robertson. Of course if it was me Marte would have never been in the game in the first place.

Either way you can't change the past. Even if they scored a run I still liked our chances to win with A-Rod, Matsui, and Swish coming up.

Jonzard · 10-10-2009, 01:26 AM

I like our chances in a tie than in not being able to bat. Writing it off as oh well is simply ignoring the point. Quite frankly... still getting a hit is defying the odds. I was in the same spot in #163 with the bean ball on the Tigers. I didn't pretend it was irrelevant.

jbergey22 · 10-10-2009, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NYY #23

With a lefty coming up and Marte in the game I would have walked him and brought in Robertson. Of course if it was me Marte would have never been in the game in the first place.

Either way you can't change the past. Even if they scored a run I still liked our chances to win with A-Rod, Matsui, and Swish coming up.

You'd walk Kubel with a lefty on the mound to face Cuddyer first and second with no one out against a righty? Very interesting considering Kubel hadnt touched a lefty in either game.

It may not have mattered but it still doesnt change the fact that these calls cant go unpunished. It looks even worse when the Yankees are involved.

NYY #23 · 10-10-2009, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

You'd walk Kubel with a lefty on the mound to face Cuddyer first and second with no one out against a righty? Very interesting considering Kubel hadnt touched a lefty in either game.

It may not have mattered but it still doesnt change the fact that these calls cant go unpunished. It looks even worse when the Yankees are involved.

The same Kubel who singled off Marte? Yes I would have walked him because Marte can't pitch. If Coke was still available I wouldn't have, but given the choices yes.

I believe I already said that he should be fined, punished, or whatever. I don't like blown calls on either side. I didn't like Bucknor's blown calls last night, or the ump's blown calls tonight, but why does it matter if it is the Yankees? They didn't blow the call the ump did. They didn't leave 17 men on base, the Twins did.

thomamon · 10-10-2009, 01:46 AM

I cringed when Marte came back out to start the 11th.

NYY #23 · 10-10-2009, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonzard

I like our chances in a tie than in not being able to bat. Writing it off as oh well is simply ignoring the point. Quite frankly... still getting a hit is defying the odds. I was in the same spot in #163 with the bean ball on the Tigers. I didn't pretend it was irrelevant.

I'm not saying its irrelevant, but it happened, and there is no way to change it. Should the Yankees forfeit because the ump blew a call? Should they play a do-over tomorrow? What is the solution?

If you want better umps, to fire or fine the ump go for it, but you can't go back and change it. The oh well is not ignoring the point, but what exactly can you do.

NYY #23 · 10-10-2009, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

I cringed when Marte came back out to start the 11th.

I cringed when Marte was on the playoff roster.

Jonzard · 10-10-2009, 02:35 AM

I'm simply opposing your statement

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Originally Posted by NYY #23

But with Mauer on second, Kubel is walked to keep the double play option. I still think the end results is bases loaded nobody out either way.

The Twins score a run. The call cost us that run and made us get an extra hit, against the odds.

Déjà Bru · 10-11-2009, 09:47 PM

It's performances like this that make me resent Pavano even more. Where was this for three whole years? Don't tell me injuries and bad luck alone; the best judges as to that were his own teammates. No debate whatsoever.

MorseMoose · 10-11-2009, 10:10 PM

Jeez...two flicks of the bat and the Yanks go ahead. What a great performance by Pavano. Just two flicks and he's down 1-run.

myasu · 10-12-2009, 12:25 AM

Congratulations to the Yankees and you fans here!

Even though my Red Sox got out of the picture, I will enjoy watching ALCS very much. (the two best AL teams this year playing against each other)

ACESFAN 1 · 10-12-2009, 03:34 AM

Go yankees

CommishJoe · 10-12-2009, 09:28 AM

Pavano was a waste of skin while in pinstripes. What a shame. He pitched brilliantly down the stretch for the Twins and he had a great game last night. Luckily, Pettitte was a little better. It's hard to believe how good Pettitte is at winning big games.

Nice to see A-Rod get rid of those post-season demons. Now, let's just hope they can keep it up against the Angels.

thomamon · 10-26-2009, 12:48 AM

Lets wake this thread up!

Bring on the Phillies

myasu · 10-26-2009, 03:35 AM

Congrats to all the Yankees fans here!
It will be a great world series.

thomamon · 11-04-2009, 08:06 PM

Today has been the longest day ever.... Lets get game 6 going, please?!!!!

Déjà Bru · 11-04-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

Today has been the longest day ever.... Lets get game 6 going, please?!!!!

Today might be the day we put this thread to bed.

thomamon · 11-04-2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Today might be the day we put this thread to bed.

We'll have to think of a clever thread title for our off season thread

10-10-2009, 01:07 AM	#442 (permalink)
Jonzard Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,646 Thanks: 1 Thanked 15x in 9 posts	You don't walk with no outs and a man on second in the top of an inning. The double play option is something one would pursue with 1 out. __________________ For a scientist must indeed be freely imaginative and yet skeptical, creative and yet a critic. There is a sense in which he must be free, but another in which his thought must be very precisely regimented; there is poetry in science, but also a lot of bookkeeping. — Sir Peter B. Medawar FTB

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NYY #23 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,786 Blog Entries: 17 Thanks: 221 Thanked 101x in 86 posts	With a lefty coming up and Marte in the game I would have walked him and brought in Robertson. Of course if it was me Marte would have never been in the game in the first place. Either way you can't change the past. Even if they scored a run I still liked our chances to win with A-Rod, Matsui, and Swish coming up. __________________ My current dynasties: From Worst to First - A journey from last place to World Series championship with each MLB team. 300-500-3000 - A look at baseball 'magic numbers' through the years. A sequel of sort to The Home Run. American Baseball League - A mostly fictional league through the years.

10-10-2009, 01:26 AM	#444 (permalink)
Jonzard Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,646 Thanks: 1 Thanked 15x in 9 posts	I like our chances in a tie than in not being able to bat. Writing it off as oh well is simply ignoring the point. Quite frankly... still getting a hit is defying the odds. I was in the same spot in #163 with the bean ball on the Tigers. I didn't pretend it was irrelevant. __________________ For a scientist must indeed be freely imaginative and yet skeptical, creative and yet a critic. There is a sense in which he must be free, but another in which his thought must be very precisely regimented; there is poetry in science, but also a lot of bookkeeping. — Sir Peter B. Medawar FTB Last edited by Jonzard; 10-10-2009 at 01:27 AM.

10-11-2009, 09:47 PM	#451 (permalink)
Déjà Bru All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 524 Thanks: 57 Thanked 79x in 44 posts	It's performances like this that make me resent Pavano even more. Where was this for three whole years? Don't tell me injuries and bad luck alone; the best judges as to that were his own teammates. No debate whatsoever. __________________ . - Bru (also known as 1998 Yankees)

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MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,803 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 161 Thanked 164x in 113 posts Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Jeez...two flicks of the bat and the Yanks go ahead. What a great performance by Pavano. Just two flicks and he's down 1-run. __________________ [Referring to rich12545] Princess Leia: But, why must you confront him? Luke: Because, there is good in him. I've felt it. He won't turn me over to the Emperor. I can save him. I can turn him back to the good side. I have to try February: ≠

10-10-2009, 01:46 AM	#447 (permalink)
thomamon Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 5,148 Thanks: 28 Thanked 43x in 21 posts	I cringed when Marte came back out to start the 11th.

10-12-2009, 12:25 AM	#453 (permalink)
myasu All Star Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,512 Thanks: 136 Thanked 43x in 24 posts	Congratulations to the Yankees and you fans here! Even though my Red Sox got out of the picture, I will enjoy watching ALCS very much. (the two best AL teams this year playing against each other) __________________ myasu Bill Spaceman Lee- "The other day they asked me about mandatory drug testing. I said I believed in drug testing a long time ago. All through the sixties I tested everything."

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10-12-2009, 09:28 AM	#455 (permalink)
CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,001 Thanks: 30 Thanked 69x in 40 posts	Pavano was a waste of skin while in pinstripes. What a shame. He pitched brilliantly down the stretch for the Twins and he had a great game last night. Luckily, Pettitte was a little better. It's hard to believe how good Pettitte is at winning big games. Nice to see A-Rod get rid of those post-season demons. Now, let's just hope they can keep it up against the Angels. __________________ Joe Question to fiance -- How much do you love me? Answer -- So much that we can get our legs tied together, walking 3 legged for the rest of our lives and I'd love it.

10-26-2009, 12:48 AM	#456 (permalink)
thomamon Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 5,148 Thanks: 28 Thanked 43x in 21 posts	Lets wake this thread up! Bring on the Phillies

10-26-2009, 03:35 AM	#457 (permalink)
myasu All Star Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,512 Thanks: 136 Thanked 43x in 24 posts	Congrats to all the Yankees fans here! It will be a great world series. __________________ myasu Bill Spaceman Lee- "The other day they asked me about mandatory drug testing. I said I believed in drug testing a long time ago. All through the sixties I tested everything."

11-04-2009, 08:06 PM	#458 (permalink)
thomamon Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 5,148 Thanks: 28 Thanked 43x in 21 posts	Today has been the longest day ever.... Lets get game 6 going, please?!!!!

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