The World of Football/Soccer. - Page 6

bababui · 06-14-2009, 01:54 AM

If I am looking to build a team from scratch, my first choice would be a player in the mold of Dunga or Gattuso.

I just cant agree that Iniesta is as good as Ronaldo. He did have a great season but were it not for an incompetent Norwegian, his name would not be on peoples lips.

Ronaldo is special because he is one guy who can individually dominate a match. Were it not for his petulance, he would be rated in the same teir as the worlds greatest.

Other examples of teams thinking they could replace their superstars:

Milwaukee Bucks trading Kareem Abdul Jabbar

Edmonton trading Wayne Gretzky

The Twins trading Rod Carew

ukhotstove · 06-14-2009, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

If I am looking to build a team from scratch, my first choice would be a player in the mold of Dunga or Gattuso.

I just cant agree that Iniesta is as good as Ronaldo. He did have a great season but were it not for an incompetent Norwegian, his name would not be on peoples lips.

Ronaldo is special because he is one guy who can individually dominate a match. Were it not for his petulance, he would be rated in the same teir as the worlds greatest.

Other examples of teams thinking they could replace their superstars:

Milwaukee Bucks trading Kareem Abdul Jabbar

Edmonton trading Wayne Gretzky

The Twins trading Rod Carew

Their smaller team sports though, the less players you have on a team the more it impacts when a player leaves specially a star player. What i'm trying to say about Ronaldo is that yes he's a top player but imo not a team player and I don't think it will effect United as much as people think.

bababui · 06-14-2009, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Their smaller team sports though, the less players you have on a team the more it impacts when a player leaves specially a star player. What i'm trying to say about Ronaldo is that yes he's a top player but imo not a team player and I don't think it will effect United as much as people think.

Who will be nearly as dangerous taking free kicks? Who can score from 25 yards out and also beat a man and create spectacular goals? Who can draw the defensive attention? It will hurt Man U as a team because. unless they sign Messi, it will free the extra defender from him onto Berbatov/Rooney. Combine this with the loss of the energetic Tevez and aging players like Giggs and Scholes; Man U could be vulnerable next season.

ukhotstove · 06-14-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Who will be nearly as dangerous taking free kicks? Who can score from 25 yards out and also beat a man and create spectacular goals? Who can draw the defensive attention? It will hurt Man U as a team because. unless they sign Messi, it will free the extra defender from him onto Berbatov/Rooney. Combine this with the loss of the energetic Tevez and aging players like Giggs and Scholes; Man U could be vulnerable next season.

He's about the best at taking free kicks so it's kind of impossible to replace that no matter what, you'll see a different United next season with Rooney more in the middle than this past season. Also from a piece in todays newspapers states that Zidane say's United will probably be a better team next season so who am I to argue with him.

ukhotstove · 06-14-2009, 04:34 PM

Hopefully more people will turn up for the World Cup in South Africa than they have for the Confederations Cup, the Spain v New Zealand game is being watched by a stadium about a 1/4 full.

ukhotstove · 06-14-2009, 04:36 PM

Hope people will be able to watch highlights of the South Africa v Iraq game and the great clearence of the line by the South African player only problem it was off the Iraq line from a shot by his own player

bababui · 06-14-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

He's about the best at taking free kicks so it's kind of impossible to replace that no matter what, you'll see a different United next season with Rooney more in the middle than this past season. Also from a piece in todays newspapers states that Zidane say's United will probably be a better team next season so who am I to argue with him.

Zidane is a Madrid partisan so I take what he has to say with a grain of salt.

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Hopefully more people will turn up for the World Cup in South Africa than they have for the Confederations Cup, the Spain v New Zealand game is being watched by a stadium about a 1/4 full.

If that. I hope so too. Lets see how many show up for Brazil v Italy.

ukhotstove · 06-14-2009, 04:54 PM

I could do without the constant horns

bababui · 06-14-2009, 04:56 PM

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I could do without the constant horns

Canned audience noise is about as idiotic a thing as I have ever seen.

ukhotstove · 06-14-2009, 05:24 PM

Switched it off, couldn't put up with it anymore so watching the Oakland @ San Fran game.

bababui · 06-14-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Switched it off, couldn't put up with it anymore so watching the Oakland @ San Fran game.

A glutton for punishment, are we?

ukhotstove · 06-15-2009, 05:36 AM

Interesting article.

BBC - BBC Sport: Paul Fletcher: Secrets of the fixture computer

ukhotstove · 06-15-2009, 12:54 PM

Brazil nearly came unstuck against Egypt only winning 4-3 with a last minute penalty, stadium was far from full again and must be a worry for South Africa specially seeing it was the mighty Brazil playing, maybe a rethink on the ticket prices to get more locals in.

Muppetus Galacticus · 06-15-2009, 01:25 PM

UEFA Under-21s under way with England v Finland on now, and Spain v Germany later

rudel.dietrich · 06-15-2009, 03:18 PM

No need to worry about the WC. Tickets are already mostly sold out.

mlyons · 06-15-2009, 03:33 PM

Yeah, the idea that somehow Confederations Cup attendance is somehow related to World Cup attendance strikes me as a bit silly. It's like worrying that no one will show up to the Champions League final because attendance at the UEFA Super Cup is low.

rudel.dietrich · 06-15-2009, 05:45 PM

Can the US ever beat a European team in something that matters?

ukhotstove · 06-15-2009, 06:01 PM

1 The lack of crowds was mainly aimed at the Confederations Cup and not the World Cup.

2 The official statement was they had sold 80% of the tickets for the Confederations Cup but stadiums have not been 80% full.

3 Alot of the tickets will have been bought by various outlets ie travel companies and FA's and doesn't mean it's a bum on a seat as of yet.

ukhotstove · 06-15-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Muppetus Galacticus

UEFA Under-21s under way with England v Finland on now, and Spain v Germany later

A dogged win by England playing most of the game with 10 men, had to rely on a Wigan man to give them the lead though

mikev · 06-15-2009, 07:02 PM

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Can the US ever beat a European team in something that matters?

It's tough when the opposite squad is gifted a 1 man advantage

Still, pretty sad way to fall apart in the 2nd half. My faith in the US squad isn't very high

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ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 5,486 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 216 Thanked 200x in 146 posts	Hopefully more people will turn up for the World Cup in South Africa than they have for the Confederations Cup, the Spain v New Zealand game is being watched by a stadium about a 1/4 full.

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ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 5,486 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 216 Thanked 200x in 146 posts	Hope people will be able to watch highlights of the South Africa v Iraq game and the great clearence of the line by the South African player only problem it was off the Iraq line from a shot by his own player

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ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 5,486 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 216 Thanked 200x in 146 posts	I could do without the constant horns

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ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 5,486 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 216 Thanked 200x in 146 posts	Switched it off, couldn't put up with it anymore so watching the Oakland @ San Fran game.

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ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 5,486 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 216 Thanked 200x in 146 posts	Interesting article. BBC - BBC Sport: Paul Fletcher: Secrets of the fixture computer

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ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 5,486 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 216 Thanked 200x in 146 posts	Brazil nearly came unstuck against Egypt only winning 4-3 with a last minute penalty, stadium was far from full again and must be a worry for South Africa specially seeing it was the mighty Brazil playing, maybe a rethink on the ticket prices to get more locals in.

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ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 5,486 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 216 Thanked 200x in 146 posts	1 The lack of crowds was mainly aimed at the Confederations Cup and not the World Cup. 2 The official statement was they had sold 80% of the tickets for the Confederations Cup but stadiums have not been 80% full. 3 Alot of the tickets will have been bought by various outlets ie travel companies and FA's and doesn't mean it's a bum on a seat as of yet.