[Bobbuttons]

Somehow, this team is hanging in this game. I don't know how, as they've been outgained by around a million yards. Look at it this way. Cribbs throws a pick on 2nd down from the 14 yard line. Pittsburgh takes that next drive all the way for a touchdown. Browns hold Pittsburgh on 4th and short. Officials very suspiciously give them a first down. The Browns first drop an easy INT in the endzone, then give up a FG. That's a 13 point swing. Browns should be kicking themselves because they should be leading this game.

While, as a fan, I want the Browns to somehow pull this out, they really need to just lose by two touchdowns or less, as I took them as a 14 1/2 point underdawg.

[Bobbuttons]

I am now 6-0 in my Browns games picks against the spread.

[Bobbuttons]

Originally Posted by PittPanther

I guess Braylon Edwards just needed a change of scenery . . .


hahahahahahahahaha

Guess he did. 3 catches out of 9 that were intended for him, one of which he should have had but deflected off of his hands and into a defender's for an INT. That's what we saw a lot in Cleveland. Good call on his performance last week....

[MorseMoose]

My name is Cleveland Brown, and I'm back in my hometown...

[PittPanther]

Originally Posted by Bobbuttons

Guess he did. 3 catches out of 9 that were intended for him, one of which he should have had but deflected off of his hands and into a defender's for an INT. That's what we saw a lot in Cleveland. Good call on his performance last week....

Make sure you keep this in your ammo case - cause after watching your team yesterday, your gonna need something. They are that bad.

[Bobbuttons]

Originally Posted by PittPanther

Make sure you keep this in your ammo case - cause after watching your team yesterday, your gonna need something. They are that bad.

Thank you for letting us know, in an entire thread devoted to how bad the Cleveland Browns are, that the Browns are that bad. Nothing gets past you.

[Bobbuttons]

This is ridiculous. What kind of a moron has a shorter rope for a young QB that is still developing that a veteran QB who should be more consistent? Quinn got pulled after not being able to consistently move the ball against 3 of the better defenses in the league. Sure, he didn't look great. But he wasn't that bad. That being said, I wasn't shocked to see him get pulled just to see if Anderson could spark the offense. He didn't. Instead, he's put up these numbers in 4 1/2 games:

COMP 60
ATT 137
COMP % 44
YARDS 605
TD 2
INT 7
FUMBLES 4
LOST 2
QB RATING 40.6


This is the only coach in the league that's too damn stubborn to admit that he was premature in pulling Quinn and that he should get another shot. Unless it's the contract that's keeping him from playing Quinn. If that's the case, he should be fired right now. If playing Quinn the rest of the year helps him to improve to where he is at least a little better than either of our QBs this year, to hell with the contract. I want this team to improve.

[Bobbuttons]

Is there any quarterback in the league that the Browns aren't going to give up a 25+ yard rush to this season? This is getting to be an every game occurance...

[jazzrack]

i feel bad for browns fans

Cleveland Browns GM George Kokinis out; head coach Eric Mangini stays - ESPN

if it wasn't for the raiders, lions, rams, redskins & bills you guys would have the most pathetic orginization in the league

[Bobbuttons]

Originally Posted by jazzrack

i feel bad for browns fans

Cleveland Browns GM George Kokinis out; head coach Eric Mangini stays - ESPN

if it wasn't for the raiders, lions, rams, redskins & bills you guys would have the most pathetic orginization in the league

Kokinos didn't really do much anyway, and from a report in the Plain Dealer, he and Mangenius had a bit of a falling out in training camp. Mangenius has been the one making all the football decisions, anyway. I truly hope that Randy Lerner is sincere. The other day after the game he stated that he was sick about the state of the team and that he was going to bring in a credible, football minded person to head the team. Not sure who that person could be. He brought in Bernie Kosar as a special consultant a few weeks ago. That was a good PR move, as Bernie is still a God in Cleveland. He's in no way ready to make personnel decisions, though.

I feel the way I feel about the Indians. I think the Indians needed to find a manager with a proven track record of winning (instead, they went with Eric Wedge several years ago, now they get Manny Acta with his awesome winning percentage). I'd like to see Lerner bring in a proven guy to take over the general manager position and let Mangini know that the only way he keeps his job is by surrendering some control over player and personnel issues.

[silvam14]

PU! This thread stinks!