MIke Scioscia

bababui · 10-07-2009, 02:07 AM

Angels are a reflection of Mike Scioscia -- latimes.com

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When the Angels open the American League playoffs with Boston on Thursday, Scioscia will become the first manager to reach the postseason six times in his first 10 seasons. And the Angels, who won as many as 90 games in a season only four times in their first 38 years, have averaged that many in their decade under Scioscia.

"It's definitely not an accident," Texas Rangers Manager Ron Washington said. "Because his players believe in him, they go out there and they play the game the way it's supposed to be played. He's relayed the message. And I just hope one day I can get to the point where I can relay the messages that he's relayed to his team."]

He just doesnt get enough respect from the baseball world.

MorseMoose · 10-07-2009, 02:13 AM

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6 times in 10 years

Not taking away from Scioscia as I really like the guy; but just wanted to say that Gardenhire is right on his tail with 5 times in 8 years.

The Twins and Angels are two solid teams the past 8-10 years.

bababui · 10-07-2009, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

Not taking away from Scioscia as I really like the guy; but just wanted to say that Gardenhire is right on his tail with 5 times in 8 years.

The Twins and Angels are two solid teams the past 8-10 years.

I agree. Our national media are too blinded by the NY/Bos spectacle to notice.

MorseMoose · 10-07-2009, 02:23 AM

Ever since the Angels took the Twins in the ALCS, I've enjoyed watching them. Though, less now with Torii Hunter - just don't like that guy.

The Angels are a different team...they, imo, play solid baseball...but also aren't afraid/ashamed to throw money around. When you have Garret Anderson, Chone Figgins, Vlad Guerrero; and then sign Gary Matthews to a huge contract...then the very next off-season, sign Torii Hunter to a huge contract...then the next off-season sign Bobby Abreu... That's borderline throwing money around. But...I'll give the team credit, other than the OF...there is some good homegrown talent and not much money elsewhere on the team.

William Foster · 10-07-2009, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

Ever since the Angels took the Twins in the ALCS, I've enjoyed watching them. Though, less now with Torii Hunter - just don't like that guy.

The Angels are a different team...they, imo, play solid baseball...but also aren't afraid/ashamed to throw money around. When you have Garret Anderson, Chone Figgins, Vlad Guerrero; and then sign Gary Matthews to a huge contract...then the very next off-season, sign Torii Hunter to a huge contract...then the next off-season sign Bobby Abreu... That's borderline throwing money around. But...I'll give the team credit, other than the OF...there is some good homegrown talent and not much money elsewhere on the team.

Like the Red Sox they have a good player development system that they use to improve and acquire players they need as well as money and a big market that allows them to throw out large contracts. Certainly one of the best run organizations in baseball.

Unfortunately the west is more competitive then ever...

bababui · 10-07-2009, 03:01 AM

The odds are so against the Twins going into the playoff series. I hope they can overcome the odds and the history and beat the Yankees.

MorseMoose · 11-19-2009, 09:10 AM

Congrats to Scioscia for Manager of the Year. Gardenhire should have won it...but Scioscia isn't a poor choice.

Green & Gold Heart · 11-19-2009, 11:45 AM

The Angels played 4 games over their Pythagorean record, while the Twins played equal to theirs. The Angels always seem to do that. They always end up better than they look on paper.

Of course in 2008 they were +12 over Pyth.

Dargone · 11-19-2009, 12:22 PM

Awesome! I would have liked a world series title this year, but this is a nice feather for us fans. He is a very good manager...

MorseMoose · 11-19-2009, 06:44 PM

The Twins also played a month without the future 2009-AL MVP, a month without the 2006 MVP, the year without a solid relief pitcher, major injuries up and down the starting rotation, he took a team 6 games back in the last two weeks of the season an won the division, the Twins saw first place April 11 and didn't see it again until Oct. 3.

I don't know what the requirements are for Manager of the Year; but if Pyt. W-L is the deciding vote Wakamatsu should have won it. Like I said, Scioscia is a good choice; I just (bias-ly) think there was a better one. Yes, Scioscia did have to manage a team that lost a player and had to deal with his fair share of injuries...but his team also got in first place on July 11 and didn't lose it. His team also has a payroll nearly double that of the Twins.

I'm not pissed, Scioscia isn't a bad choice. Gardenhire has been consistently solid, solid manager that continues to get shutout in the Manager of the Year voting. 2006 - somehow Leyland gets it over Gardenhire. 2004 - Showalter gets it over Gardenhire. 2003 - Pena gets it over Gardenhire. 2002 - Scioscia and Howe are above Gardenhire.

Add 2009, Gardenhire just can't catch a break.

Skipaway · 11-19-2009, 08:40 PM

The really impressive one is Arte Moreno not Mike Scioscia.

Bluenoser · 11-20-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

The Twins also played a month without the future 2009-AL MVP, a month without the 2006 MVP, the year without a solid relief pitcher, major injuries up and down the starting rotation, he took a team 6 games back in the last two weeks of the season an won the division, the Twins saw first place April 11 and didn't see it again until Oct. 3.

I don't know what the requirements are for Manager of the Year; but if Pyt. W-L is the deciding vote Wakamatsu should have won it. Like I said, Scioscia is a good choice; I just (bias-ly) think there was a better one. Yes, Scioscia did have to manage a team that lost a player and had to deal with his fair share of injuries...but his team also got in first place on July 11 and didn't lose it. His team also has a payroll nearly double that of the Twins.

I'm not pissed, Scioscia isn't a bad choice. Gardenhire has been consistently solid, solid manager that continues to get shutout in the Manager of the Year voting. 2006 - somehow Leyland gets it over Gardenhire. 2004 - Showalter gets it over Gardenhire. 2003 - Pena gets it over Gardenhire. 2002 - Scioscia and Howe are above Gardenhire.

Add 2009, Gardenhire just can't catch a break.

Splitter24 · 11-20-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

He just doesnt get enough respect from the baseball world.

I think I've read more articles about how Mike Scioscia is such an underrated/underappreciated manager in the last few years that the word "ironic" doesn't do it justice.

MorseMoose · 11-20-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

I'm not pissed...It isn't a reflection on me and therefore don't really care. I probably won't even remember in 12 months who won Manager of the Year until I look it up (though I'll know it was Gardenhire).

jbergey22 · 11-20-2009, 09:55 AM

The result was a bit surprising. This year was Gardenhires best job as a manager IMO and didnt the Angels have a huge drop in wins this year? The pitching this year was as poor as I can remember and Gardy had to keep it together the first part of the year. They are both great managers and cant argue with either choice its just surprising I guess considering voters probably have no idea what Pyt. W-L even is.

It does seem strange that Gardy has never won it. Its just a sign the Twins are expected to win 90 every year I guess so thats a good a thing.

Hopefully Mauer gets snubbed to keep his price down a bit.

On a side note JJ Hardy and Mauer a good friends and apparenly that move will help keep Mauer in Minny. Im thinking going out and getting an Ace SP and a power hitting right hand 3rd baseman would keep him here.

10-07-2009, 02:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,803 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 161 Thanked 164x in 113 posts Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Ever since the Angels took the Twins in the ALCS, I've enjoyed watching them. Though, less now with Torii Hunter - just don't like that guy. The Angels are a different team...they, imo, play solid baseball...but also aren't afraid/ashamed to throw money around. When you have Garret Anderson, Chone Figgins, Vlad Guerrero; and then sign Gary Matthews to a huge contract...then the very next off-season, sign Torii Hunter to a huge contract...then the next off-season sign Bobby Abreu... That's borderline throwing money around. But...I'll give the team credit, other than the OF...there is some good homegrown talent and not much money elsewhere on the team. __________________ [Referring to rich12545] Princess Leia: But, why must you confront him? Luke: Because, there is good in him. I've felt it. He won't turn me over to the Emperor. I can save him. I can turn him back to the good side. I have to try February: ≠

11-19-2009, 09:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,803 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 161 Thanked 164x in 113 posts Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Congrats to Scioscia for Manager of the Year. Gardenhire should have won it...but Scioscia isn't a poor choice. __________________ [Referring to rich12545] Princess Leia: But, why must you confront him? Luke: Because, there is good in him. I've felt it. He won't turn me over to the Emperor. I can save him. I can turn him back to the good side. I have to try February: ≠

11-19-2009, 11:45 AM	#8 (permalink)
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Appleton, WI Posts: 4,246 Thanks: 100 Thanked 80x in 62 posts	The Angels played 4 games over their Pythagorean record, while the Twins played equal to theirs. The Angels always seem to do that. They always end up better than they look on paper. Of course in 2008 they were +12 over Pyth. __________________

11-19-2009, 12:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,681 Thanks: 0 Thanked 43x in 15 posts	Awesome! I would have liked a world series title this year, but this is a nice feather for us fans. He is a very good manager... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

11-19-2009, 06:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,803 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 161 Thanked 164x in 113 posts Infractions: 1/1 (1)	The Twins also played a month without the future 2009-AL MVP, a month without the 2006 MVP, the year without a solid relief pitcher, major injuries up and down the starting rotation, he took a team 6 games back in the last two weeks of the season an won the division, the Twins saw first place April 11 and didn't see it again until Oct. 3. I don't know what the requirements are for Manager of the Year; but if Pyt. W-L is the deciding vote Wakamatsu should have won it. Like I said, Scioscia is a good choice; I just (bias-ly) think there was a better one. Yes, Scioscia did have to manage a team that lost a player and had to deal with his fair share of injuries...but his team also got in first place on July 11 and didn't lose it. His team also has a payroll nearly double that of the Twins. I'm not pissed, Scioscia isn't a bad choice. Gardenhire has been consistently solid, solid manager that continues to get shutout in the Manager of the Year voting. 2006 - somehow Leyland gets it over Gardenhire. 2004 - Showalter gets it over Gardenhire. 2003 - Pena gets it over Gardenhire. 2002 - Scioscia and Howe are above Gardenhire. Add 2009, Gardenhire just can't catch a break. __________________ [Referring to rich12545] Princess Leia: But, why must you confront him? Luke: Because, there is good in him. I've felt it. He won't turn me over to the Emperor. I can save him. I can turn him back to the good side. I have to try February: ≠

10-07-2009, 03:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,069 Thanks: 228 Thanked 145x in 107 posts Infractions: 0/1 (1)	The odds are so against the Twins going into the playoff series. I hope they can overcome the odds and the history and beat the Yankees.

11-19-2009, 08:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 10,403 Thanks: 1 Thanked 42x in 33 posts	The really impressive one is Arte Moreno not Mike Scioscia. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

11-20-2009, 09:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,034 Thanks: 134 Thanked 126x in 95 posts	The result was a bit surprising. This year was Gardenhires best job as a manager IMO and didnt the Angels have a huge drop in wins this year? The pitching this year was as poor as I can remember and Gardy had to keep it together the first part of the year. They are both great managers and cant argue with either choice its just surprising I guess considering voters probably have no idea what Pyt. W-L even is. It does seem strange that Gardy has never won it. Its just a sign the Twins are expected to win 90 every year I guess so thats a good a thing. Hopefully Mauer gets snubbed to keep his price down a bit. On a side note JJ Hardy and Mauer a good friends and apparenly that move will help keep Mauer in Minny. Im thinking going out and getting an Ace SP and a power hitting right hand 3rd baseman would keep him here.

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