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Old 11-02-2009, 12:30 AM   #161 (permalink)
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Im really not sure why anyone would quit watching a World Series game if they had a rooting interest in one of the teams. To each his own I guess.

Hopefully he gets his surprise

I have a rooting interest because I took the Phils +160 tonight.

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Old 11-02-2009, 12:41 AM   #162 (permalink)
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Nice move Charlie. Bring in the worst RP in baseball with the game tied.
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:41 AM   #163 (permalink)
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F'ing Lidge.
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:47 AM   #164 (permalink)
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Im really not sure why anyone would quit watching a World Series game if they had a rooting interest in one of the teams. To each his own I guess.

Hopefully he gets his surprise

I have a rooting interest because I took the Phils +160 tonight.
I guess sometimes you get a feeling the team is gonna lose no matter what.
Hell i feel that way before almost every raider game. I usually wait till the 2nd qrt to turn the game off.
Even after the Phillies tied i just had a feeling the Yankees would take the lead. Especially when Damon got on base. Just seems to be the Yankees year ever since the all-star break.
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:50 AM   #165 (permalink)
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The Phillies are an embarassment.
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:53 AM   #167 (permalink)
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Charlie Manuel is an absolutely dreadful manager. You could write a novel on all of his ridiculous decisions in that game.
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wowwwww, great game these guys just dont give up. Still think i'd go with Gaudin tomorrow and have AJ fresh in a rematch with pedro in game 6. Some clutch hits tonight
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whew, that was too close for my comfort. I just gotta hope that tomorrow, the Yankees offense can surprise me as much as Blanton and the Phillies surprised me tonight.

As for bad managerial moves, leaving a tiring Sabathia to pitch to his Daddy (Utley) was a bad move.

Even with A-Rod not hitting well this post-season, gotta hand it to him. When the game is on the line, this guy is clutch this year. Absolutely incredible.

Should be a good game tomorrow.
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Incredibly heads up play by Damon. It's nice to see guys play smart baseball.
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Charlie Manuel is an absolutely dreadful manager. You could write a novel on all of his ridiculous decisions in that game.
you can't blame charlie for the series. His players most noteable everyone in the line-up not named Utley and Feliz let him down this game. They lost to a better team. When you trot out guys like Cole "I can't wait for his season to be over" Hamels in game 3 and get nothing out of Howard the entire series you're going to lose with or without lidge.
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Anybody notice how many times they kept bringing up the fact that they didnt think the pitch that hit A-Rod was intentional? It always seem to be brought up when the Phillies pitched inside like they were prepared to say it would not be a fair call if a Phillies pitcher were ejected for hitting a batter since they thought the warning was a bogus judgement.
It was the the 8th or 9th inning and they were still going on about it. i was thinking just drop it already.
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Even with A-Rod not hitting well this post-season, gotta hand it to him. When the game is on the line, this guy is clutch this year. Absolutely incredible.
Sorry Commish but are you watching the same postseason as I am? He has been lights out this postseason unless I am dreaming.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:15 AM   #175 (permalink)
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Well,it was a hell of a run,but it seems right now that the Yankees are just a more complete club.200 Million will do that for you. The Phils will be back though,they need to get a closer,a couple of bench guys and another starter or two depending on Mrs. Hamels.There's a great young nucleus here and I'm looking forward to the future.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:20 AM   #177 (permalink)
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you can't blame charlie for the series.
For the series as a whole? Nah. For tonight? Absolutely, and he's botched so many games over the last few years I can't even count. Not to mention that simply screwing this game up beyond belief cost them the entire series. If they win that game, they are tied at 2 with major momentum and a significant pitching advantage in Game 5.


Before we even get into Game 4, he has to be the first manager in the history of baseball that is dumb enough to remove his most successful starting pitcher (statistically speaking) from the rotation for the playoffs.



His first mistake tonight was made before the first pitch was even thrown. After the loss in Game 3, it should have been an absolute no-brainer to start Cliff Lee. Relying on Joe Blanton to match-up with Sabathia was so foolish it's not even funny. Not only that, but starting Lee in Game 4 would have kept him available for a potential Game 7 either in a starting role or out of the bullpen. Now, even if the Phils somehow force a game 7, that option is taken away.

So the Phils overcome this horrible decision and tie the game late and have all the momentum. So in the most important inning of the series he throws a ridiculously shaky and rusty Lidge out there in a non-save situation. Lidge hasn't pitched in like two weeks. He couldn't have brought in Happ or waited to see how things went with Madson for a second inning? Hell even Durbin. All they really had to do was get through the 9th inning without giving up a run and the Yankees looked fully prepared to NOT bring Rivera in (which I think would have been a terrible decision by Girardi but it sure looked like he was going to make it) so you would have had a pinch hitter and the top of the order up, needing to just manufacture one run to take the series by the balls.

Then to compound things, Lidge is CLEARLY in the midst of one of his classic meltdowns. Runners on 1st and 3rd and you know that any run that scores means Rivera in the 9th. Lidge's slider is taken away from him because of the runner on 3rd and Alex Rodfreakingriguez is up. Why on earth would you pitch to him??? Walk his ass and bring in someone else to pitch to Posada. Who the hell cares if a single now scores two runs instead of one, you're facing Rivera in the 9th either way.

Even something as simple as his decision on who to pinch hit in the 9th. Matt Stairs??? Really?? You're down THREE runs, Charlie. One swing of the bat and you're still down two buddy, so let's put someone up at the plate that has a prayer of getting on base. The odds of Stairs doing anything in that at-bat were slim to none. If the game was tied or even a one-run game, I could see it but down three, that was asinine.


He seems like a really nice man and the players clearly like him but his managerial decisions are pathetic, he's a god awful manager, there is no way around it.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:29 AM   #179 (permalink)
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For the series as a whole? Nah. For tonight? Absolutely, and he's botched so many games over the last few years I can't even count. Not to mention that simply screwing this game up beyond belief cost them the entire series. If they win that game, they are tied at 2 with major momentum and a significant pitching advantage in Game 5.


Before we even get into Game 4, he has to be the first manager in the history of baseball that is dumb enough to remove his most successful starting pitcher (statistically speaking) from the rotation for the playoffs.



His first mistake tonight was made before the first pitch was even thrown. After the loss in Game 3, it should have been an absolute no-brainer to start Cliff Lee. Relying on Joe Blanton to match-up with Sabathia was so foolish it's not even funny. Not only that, but starting Lee in Game 4 would have kept him available for a potential Game 7 either in a starting role or out of the bullpen. Now, even if the Phils somehow force a game 7, that option is taken away.

So the Phils overcome this horrible decision and tie the game late and have all the momentum. So in the most important inning of the series he throws a ridiculously shaky and rusty Lidge out there in a non-save situation. Lidge hasn't pitched in like two weeks. He couldn't have brought in Happ or waited to see how things went with Madson for a second inning? Hell even Durbin. All they really had to do was get through the 9th inning without giving up a run and the Yankees looked fully prepared to NOT bring Rivera in (which I think would have been a terrible decision by Girardi but it sure looked like he was going to make it) so you would have had a pinch hitter and the top of the order up, needing to just manufacture one run to take the series by the balls.

Then to compound things, Lidge is CLEARLY in the midst of one of his classic meltdowns. Runners on 1st and 3rd and you know that any run that scores means Rivera in the 9th. Lidge's slider is taken away from him because of the runner on 3rd and Alex Rodfreakingriguez is up. Why on earth would you pitch to him??? Walk his ass and bring in someone else to pitch to Posada. Who the hell cares if a single now scores two runs instead of one, you're facing Rivera in the 9th either way.

Even something as simple as his decision on who to pinch hit in the 9th. Matt Stairs??? Really?? You're down THREE runs, Charlie. One swing of the bat and you're still down two buddy, so let's put someone up at the plate that has a prayer of getting on base. The odds of Stairs doing anything in that at-bat were slim to none. If the game was tied or even a one-run game, I could see it but down three, that was asinine.


He seems like a really nice man and the players clearly like him but his managerial decisions are pathetic, he's a god awful manager, there is no way around it.
Well,it seems like you've said it all.I was just too lazy to type it haha.This team wins despite Charlie,always has.But he did bring a championship here,something "The Big Mustache" across the street will NEVER DO so for that I'm grateful.Only thingto do now is wait for "Groundhog day" to occur.Eagles make the playoffs,Reid throws 60 passes and runs 3 times and the Birds lose to a team they could have trampled if they'd have run the ball.Oh,most likely in the NFC Title game.
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