Leave it to the Yankees to...

f.montoya · 11-03-2009, 10:38 AM

...exploit yet another part of MLB...

New York Yankees' frequent meetings on mound at isssue - ESPN

TribeFanInNC · 11-03-2009, 10:41 AM

I knew I didn't like them.

kq76 · 11-03-2009, 10:46 AM

I'd like to see a rule on that.

Somewhat relatedly... I think it's time that they go with pitch clocks. I love baseball, but dang, some pitchers take forever. I want to watch a game and get on with the rest of the day, not just start watching a game and get on with the rest of the day. It's a joy to watch a game started by two fast pitchers. They seem to usually do well doing that too.

f.montoya · 11-03-2009, 10:52 AM

I hear you guys. At least all other major sports leagues have limits on time outs called. MLB had better revise their guidelines. Yankees should not be allowed what they are getting as this has been going on since the division series.

Tony M · 11-03-2009, 12:19 PM

To be fair the five games so far have all taken between 3:25 and 3:27 which is pretty consistent and only 30 mins longer than a game should take.

jazzrack · 11-03-2009, 12:27 PM

i liked this part

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"Here's what I don't get in baseball," Wuhl said. "You have a Korean pitcher, a Dominican catcher, a first baseman from French Canada and a third baseman from Mississippi, and they can't understand each other already. Then they cover their mouths with their gloves. Then the catcher puts down one finger for fastball. What was that all about?"

TribeFanInNC · 11-03-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony M

To be fair the five games so far have all taken between 3:25 and 3:27 which is pretty consistent and only 30 mins longer than a game should take.

Yeah, so far the times haven't been too bad IMO. I blame FOX for the extra 30 mins. The time change is killing me though. It's like staying up until 1am. I had to go to bed in the 7th each of the last two games.

CommishJoe · 11-03-2009, 12:33 PM

Maybe the Phillies should stop stealing signs then

Phillies stealing signs? | Truth&Rumors | FanNation

canadiancreed · 11-03-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzrack

i liked this part

Yep, baseball players cant' be bilingual.

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Originally Posted by CommishJoe

Maybe the Phillies should stop stealing signs then

Maybe the yankees should get a better coding system?

CommishJoe · 11-03-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by canadiancreed

Maybe the yankees should get a better coding system?

They did. They went to multiple signs on every pitch for every AB. But, if the pitcher/catcher don't agree, it takes longer to call another pitch. When it comes to important ABs, you want to ensure you're on the same page.

LeiterFanatic · 11-03-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CommishJoe

When it comes to important ABs, you want to ensure you're on the same page.

So maybe we should asterisk all important MLB at-Bats in history prior to the Yankees deciding their at-bats are more important than anyone else's who ever played under the same old rule system?

Tony M · 11-03-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CommishJoe

Maybe the Phillies should stop stealing signs then

Phillies stealing signs? | Truth&Rumors | FanNation

I can't for the life of me see why this is illegal. What's different about relaying it to the dugout live or getting the video from mlb.com and then trying to decode it after the game ready for the next one? What if the 2B/SS works it out and then relays it audibly to his team-mates? Should fielders have to face away from the catcher until they hear a noise of ball on bat or ball in glove?

If you're going to make signs during the game then they're fair game for being stolen.

canadiancreed · 11-03-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CommishJoe

They did.

And yet here we are.

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Originally Posted by CommishJoe

They went to multiple signs on every pitch for every AB. But, if the pitcher/catcher don't agree, it takes longer to call another pitch. When it comes to important ABs, you want to ensure you're on the same page.

Sounds like they either need to get a playbook going, or have one of them have veto power.

jaxmagicman · 11-03-2009, 01:53 PM

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jaxmagicman · 11-03-2009, 01:57 PM

I don't see anything wrong with the phillies stealing signs and I don't see anything wrong with the yankees going to the mound a bunch a times.

Skipaway · 11-03-2009, 02:10 PM

There is no need to call the Yankees out for this. All over the league a lot of hitters like to call a lot of timeouts.

The umpires can refuse to grant the timeout or hurry the players up if the timeouts are too long.

CommishJoe · 11-03-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

There is no need to call the Yankees out for this. All over the league a lot of hitters like to call a lot of timeouts.

The umpires can refuse to grant the timeout or hurry the players up if the timeouts are too long.

Mark it down on the calendar folks. I agree with Skipaway

Goody · 11-03-2009, 02:29 PM

I don't see the problem with it. But it seems like they'd be more on the same page naturally from playing so many games together and all the preparation and work that they put in leading up to the game.

Skipaway · 11-03-2009, 02:42 PM

Honestly, I think the only thing happening here is the VP of umpiring thinking about updating the guideline being given to umpires.

MLB has reviewed issues about hitter timeouts and coach mound visits not so long ago, with some new measures still to be implemented.

Now the VP of umpiring just realized that they missed the player mound visits. Surely he can't do anything now, but it's reasonable for him to send out signals showing how serious the league is about picking up the pace of the game.

Goody · 11-03-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

Honestly, I think the only thing happening here is the VP of umpiring thinking about updating the guideline being given to umpires.

MLB has reviewed issues about hitter timeouts and coach mound visits not so long ago, with some new measures still to be implemented.

Now the VP of umpiring just realized that they missed the player mound visits. Surely he can't do anything now, but it's reasonable for him to send out signals showing how serious the league is about picking up the pace of the game.

I think it would be a good rule too. It would reward teams that are well prepared and cohesive.

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f.montoya Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,712 Thanks: 180 Thanked 140x in 68 posts	I hear you guys. At least all other major sports leagues have limits on time outs called. MLB had better revise their guidelines. Yankees should not be allowed what they are getting as this has been going on since the division series. __________________ Fidel Montoya Asahi2 Baseball Commissioner(Historical League Since 2004) www.allsimbaseball.com (OOTP web hosting - Customized sites for online leagues - Sign up, Connect OOTP and Play!) Share Your Mods - Free, unlimited and easy to upload to share your Mods instantly(free site registration required)

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Tony M Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Here Posts: 6,078 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 37 Thanked 299x in 172 posts	To be fair the five games so far have all taken between 3:25 and 3:27 which is pretty consistent and only 30 mins longer than a game should take. __________________ This signature is intentionally blank

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Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 10,492 Thanks: 1 Thanked 42x in 33 posts	There is no need to call the Yankees out for this. All over the league a lot of hitters like to call a lot of timeouts. The umpires can refuse to grant the timeout or hurry the players up if the timeouts are too long. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

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Goody Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: PA Posts: 3,189 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 397 Thanked 161x in 116 posts	I don't see the problem with it. But it seems like they'd be more on the same page naturally from playing so many games together and all the preparation and work that they put in leading up to the game.

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Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 10,492 Thanks: 1 Thanked 42x in 33 posts	Honestly, I think the only thing happening here is the VP of umpiring thinking about updating the guideline being given to umpires. MLB has reviewed issues about hitter timeouts and coach mound visits not so long ago, with some new measures still to be implemented. Now the VP of umpiring just realized that they missed the player mound visits. Surely he can't do anything now, but it's reasonable for him to send out signals showing how serious the league is about picking up the pace of the game. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

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