Hanover and Germany GK Robert Enke Commits Suicide

[bababui]

Police confirm death of Germany keeper Enke - Europe - ESPN Soccernet

RIP

Hope you found the peace you were seeking Robert.

Germany and Hannover 96 goalkeeper Robert Enke has died after being hit by a train and German police have confirmed that first indications point to suicide.

The 32-year-old died close to his home in Neustadt-Eilvese, Hannover, near a railway level crossing. "First indications point to suicide," a media officer for the Niedersachsen police said.


"At 1825 (1725GMT) he was run over by a regional express train running between Hamburg and Bremen," said police spokesman Stefan Wittke. "The train was travelling at the speed of 160-kph."

[damientheomen3]

From a Polish guy, RIP. No one should die due to their own actions or the actions of another being, let alone die in such a gruesome way.

[rudel.dietrich]

Very sad
Also very sad that he felt like he should have to hide his illness. Also we still in 2009 as a society are not understanding enough of people with the illness nor do we have an effective treatment for it.

[ukhotstove]

Not sure I can find any sympathy with him personally, his family yes but at the end of the day he risked other peoples lives by commiting suicide. My cousin commited suicide a few years ago but never risked the life of anybody, unless Enke was totally crazy he knew when he went on the level crossing he could have killed or injured other people.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

Very sad
Also very sad that he felt like he should have to hide his illness. Also we still in 2009 as a society are not understanding enough of people with the illness nor do we have an effective treatment for it.

I agree. People suffering from severe depression many times have it complicated by the almost requirement from society just to keep it quiet. After all, we should all just "suck it up" when something bad happens in our lives, right?

I really feel for his wife right now. Losing her child and then her husband so quickly.

[Skipaway]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

Very sad
Also very sad that he felt like he should have to hide his illness. Also we still in 2009 as a society are not understanding enough of people with the illness nor do we have an effective treatment for it.

It's just a very competitive profession. Pro players sometimes hide physical injuries in the same way for the fear of losing jobs.

Just unfortunate this often leads to worsening the condition.

[phightin]

ashame he was a talented guy with a lot going for him. pro athletes and depression needs to be looked into a lot more. not saying these guys essentially have it any worse than any aspect of society, but the pressure put on them from the outside and they put on themselves certainly takes a toll on their mental state. I can speak from personal experience.

[rudel.dietrich]

Originally Posted by Skipaway

It's just a very competitive profession. Pro players sometimes hide physical injuries in the same way for the fear of losing jobs.

Just unfortunate this often leads to worsening the condition.

He hid his illness because he feared it would lessen his chances that he and his wife would be able to adopt. He had already been through the death of one child.

[Skipaway]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

He hid his illness because he feared it would lessen his chances that he and his wife would be able to adopt. He had already been through the death of one child.

His depression started in 2003, and his first child died in 2006. The adoption thing is pretty recent.

He might be hiding his depression for the adoption reason recently, but he definitely wasn't hiding depression for that reason from 2003 to 2007.

[rudel.dietrich]

Originally Posted by Skipaway

His depression started in 2003, and his first child died in 2006. The adoption thing is pretty recent.

He might be hiding his depression for the adoption reason recently, but he definitely wasn't hiding depression for that reason from 2003 to 2007.

He quit seeing his doctor and went off his medication during the adoption proceedings.

[Skipaway]

Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

He quit seeing his doctor and went off his medication during the adoption proceedings.

But he did hide it from the team from the very beginning. I am not denying he's hiding it for adoption proceedings. His wife said so. I am just telling you he's also hiding it from the teams he played for before that for different reasons.

[kenyan_cheena]

Over here in Australia we've had a few high profile sportsman who suicided due to depression. One of them was a rugby league legend named Steve Rogers who represented Australia and went on to be one of the top administrators for the club he spent most of his career with. His son followed in his footsteps and also played for Australia.

A lot of the problem with depression in men is that they have been conditioned to believe that if they reveal the illness it makes them look weak. I believe this was the case with Steve Rogers.

[Antonin]

Originally Posted by Autism Speaks

I agree. People suffering from severe depression many times have it complicated by the almost requirement from society just to keep it quiet. After all, we should all just "suck it up" when something bad happens in our lives, right?

Thank you. Many, many people who suffer from depression do not even seek treatment for this reason.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Not sure I can find any sympathy with him personally, his family yes but at the end of the day he risked other peoples lives by commiting suicide. My cousin commited suicide a few years ago but never risked the life of anybody, unless Enke was totally crazy he knew when he went on the level crossing he could have killed or injured other people.

Ok, I'll bite - exactly how could he have injured or killed other people by stepping in front of a high speed train?

[Skipaway]

Originally Posted by BruceM

Ok, I'll bite - exactly how could he have injured or killed other people by stepping in front of a high speed train?

Maybe the trains could make emergency stops and decelerate rapid enough to create injuries?

[ukhotstove]

Originally Posted by BruceM

Ok, I'll bite - exactly how could he have injured or killed other people by stepping in front of a high speed train?

Slams the brakes on then what Skipaway says, also I'd like to ask those who have shown sympathy for the player have they sat and thought about the train driver ?

[Skipaway]

A depressed person thinking about killing oneself wouldn't put too much thought into this kind of things anyway. Stories like people jumping from buildings killing somebody below happen all the time.

Unless we do something like suicide education, teaching people what's the best way to commit suicide and why, and do it early so everybody is programmed not to choose more dangerous ways, you can't avoid this kind of thing from happening.

[ukhotstove]

I have no idea what goes through somebodies head when they think about suicide, maybe he thought because a train was going to kill him it wasn't suicide. Just wish people would think about everyone involved rather than just the one person, as up to now I haven't seen one person who knew him have any sympathy with the train driver who has to live with this for the rest of his life.

[bababui]

Originally Posted by ukhotstove

I have no idea what goes through somebodies head when they think about suicide, maybe he thought because a train was going to kill him it wasn't suicide. Just wish people would think about everyone involved rather than just the one person, as up to now I haven't seen one person who knew him have any sympathy with the train driver who has to live with this for the rest of his life.

I dont think it will bother the train driver at all. He had no control over the situation. His behavior played no part in the tragic outcome. Only a real narcissist could make this about themselves.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by Skipaway

Maybe the trains could make emergency stops and decelerate rapid enough to create injuries?

That doesn't happen. Conductors are taught not to Jeopardize the lives of people on the train for an animal/human on the tracks. They'll decelerate slowly. Common sense dictates that slamming on the brakes isn't going to save the animal/human anyway, so why Jeopardize the lives of people on the train?