Official Green Bay Packers Thread

[Chicagofan76]

Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Could you set the rules on how to reply to your questions, you stated "out for the season" now it's season ending injury even though it may only be for a couple of games now it's injuries to only QB's, RB's and WR's. It would make it easier to reply.

out for season is still out for season no matter when you are injured and placed on IR. When Cutler and Forte got injured that was the end of their season. I dont believe they were placed on IR until right before the Vikings game, but unless the Bears had a chance at the playoffs they weren't coming back.

[Cooleyvol]

Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

1 & done? Come On Man! Even Da Bears could have won 1 game. Maybe next year. For the record I was cheering for you guys to beat NYG but lose to the 49ers. I want an all Harbaugh SB.

Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

what do you think I am saying? I am not even sure what i am saying. I certainly am not saying that even a 100% healthy Bearsteams is better then the Butt Packers the last 2 years.

Seems like that's what you're saying to me.

[ukhotstove]

Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

out for season is still out for season no matter when you are injured and placed on IR. When Cutler and Forte got injured that was the end of their season. I dont believe they were placed on IR until right before the Vikings game, but unless the Bears had a chance at the playoffs they weren't coming back.

End of season or season ending but I bet if you said to people "out for season" they would think they missed the whole season not just 2 games as in Knox's case.

[Chicagofan76]

Originally Posted by ukhotstove

End of season or season ending but I bet if you said to people "out for season" they would think they missed the whole season not just 2 games as in Knox's case.

then they didnt watch any football this year. if i have to explain how much time Knox missed, then it was probably not worth talking to them.

[ukhotstove]

Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

then they didnt watch any football this year. if i have to explain how much time Knox missed, then it was probably not worth talking to them.

No they'd be confused because you stated that he was one of the players who was so called "out for the season" when he only missed 2 games. I think you tried to over exagerate the injuries to try and cover up the Bears being an average team, I did actually warn you they'd be an 8-8 team before the season started

[Chicagofan76]

Originally Posted by ukhotstove

No they'd be confused because you stated that he was one of the players who was so called "out for the season" when he only missed 2 games. I think you tried to over exagerate the injuries to try and cover up the Bears being an average team, I did actually warn you they'd be an 8-8 team before the season started

Actually I made no mention in my original post about Forte, Cutler & Knox that they were out for the season. I said

Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

Lets see what happens when Rodgers, Driver, Finley & Kuhn all go down for the season. Since you guys dont have RB's that are any good I had to list your best 2 receivers. there's no doubt that had Cutler, Forte, Knox & Barber all stayed healthy we would have been the wildcard.

It baffles me when people see what they want and not whats actually there in front of their face. As a football fan, you knew that Knox had only missed 2 games and by then Da Bears season was over anyway. Losing Cutler then Forte is what hurt us. I was talking specifically to you not some random football fan, unless you are just the average fan.
I also keep forgetting that if I don't say exactly what happened, people or I get blasting for it, forgetting that people take poop out of context on here often.

On a sidenote I actually met a Packer fan I have respect for today. He understood what I was saying and pulled up this post in his Ipad.

[ukhotstove]

Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

Actually I made no mention in my original post about Forte, Cutler & Knox that they were out for the season. I said

It baffles me when people see what they want and not whats actually there in front of their face. As a football fan, you knew that Knox had only missed 2 games and by then Da Bears season was over anyway. Losing Cutler then Forte is what hurt us. I was talking specifically to you not some random football fan, unless you are just the average fan.
I also keep forgetting that if I don't say exactly what happened, people or I get blasting for it, forgetting that people take poop out of context on here often.

On a sidenote I actually met a Packer fan I have respect for today. He understood what I was saying and pulled up this post in his Ipad.

Not related to someone on this board are you ? Just some of your posts seem like someone elses, you'd also make a good politician your original post insinuated out for the season but was easy to back track on. I also had this discussion with fans and people in various sports and the majority around about 80% went with out for the season missing all of the season, even spoke to a friend who actually works as a physio for a sports team and he would have said Cutler etc were season ending not out for the season.

Anyway end of the day your Bears just aren't good enough, oh by the way had to laugh at your "average fan" jibe as tell me who did the best predicting at the start of the season think I was batting around 1.000 I think this is why you seem a bit grumpy

[ukhotstove]

ps

A few years back I did the fantasy football thing, I was the only non American in the league. Anyway the first season I won with ease, second season I was winning going into around week 10, I received a couple of nasty emails "english blah blah blah shouldn't be in our league" and the like. I didn't waste my time replying to the emails but found out when I went to change my team that I'd be locked out, emailed the guy running the league and got a email along the lines of go away.

All this didn't bother me just thought sore losers so what, so to cut a long story short you kind of reminded me of them as it's not the first time you've had a dig at me, well "tried" to have a dig at me because I follow American sports aka baseball, football and hockey as can't remember what thread but you had a problem with the teams I followed.

Question for you, how many average fans do you know of who stay up till 5am watching a game then leave for work at 6am, guys like you get on my goat, I don't care where your from if you have passion for a sport I like your ok in my book. I know and talk to many on here who have a passion for football (soccer) and our opinions may vary but I couldn't give a monkies if they were American or from any other country.

End of the day if you have a problem me following American sports then that's what it is its your problem.

[Chicagofan76]

Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Not related to someone on this board are you ? Just some of your posts seem like someone elses, you'd also make a good politician your original post insinuated out for the season but was easy to back track on. I also had this discussion with fans and people in various sports and the majority around about 80% went with out for the season missing all of the season, even spoke to a friend who actually works as a physio for a sports team and he would have said Cutler etc were season ending not out for the season.

Anyway end of the day your Bears just aren't good enough, oh by the way had to laugh at your "average fan" jibe as tell me who did the best predicting at the start of the season think I was batting around 1.000 I think this is why you seem a bit grumpy

No not related to anyone on this board to my knowledge.
Sorry I didnt realize that when I said out for season I had to specify that Cutler's was Season ending when he got injured he was out for the remainder of the season which as a football fan you knew that.
8-8 with 4 injured players was accurate i had them winning 6 games with everyone healthy. With Cutler and Forte we would have won 10 games. So did your 8-8 prediction factor in injuries to the 2 most important offensive players?
Far from grumpy, I just despise butt Packer fans.

[Chicagofan76]

Originally Posted by ukhotstove

ps

A few years back I did the fantasy football thing, I was the only non American in the league. Anyway the first season I won with ease, second season I was winning going into around week 10, I received a couple of nasty emails "english blah blah blah shouldn't be in our league" and the like. I didn't waste my time replying to the emails but found out when I went to change my team that I'd be locked out, emailed the guy running the league and got a email along the lines of go away.

All this didn't bother me just thought sore losers so what, so to cut a long story short you kind of reminded me of them as it's not the first time you've had a dig at me, well "tried" to have a dig at me because I follow American sports aka baseball, football and hockey as can't remember what thread but you had a problem with the teams I followed.

Question for you, how many average fans do you know of who stay up till 5am watching a game then leave for work at 6am, guys like you get on my goat, I don't care where your from if you have passion for a sport I like your ok in my book. I know and talk to many on here who have a passion for football (soccer) and our opinions may vary but I couldn't give a monkies if they were American or from any other country.

End of the day if you have a problem me following American sports then that's what it is its your problem.

After our conversations in the past I actually have respect for you being Br4itish and following American Sports, namely being a Pirates fan, but I still hate that you are a Packer fan. Forgot which NBA or NHL team you like.
This went from me giving you Packer fans a hard time for failing in this years postseason to me being accused that I dont like you for being a Brit and claiming that Da Bears are better. I also have issues going 1 with 1 of your fellow Packer fans from an online league.
btw thats great that you had success in FF. Each of the last 3 years i started out 6-0 and then lost 5 of the remaining 8 games. Still baffled by that. but losing QB's and RB's hurt when you have no quality backups and fail to pick up the best TE possibly ever in the NFL.

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

An amazing Giants win, given the officiating help the officials gave your guys. Do you suppose all the refs were from Wisconsin?

Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

Yeah, there were definitely a couple of questionable calls that went the Packers way. The Pack did nothing to deserve winning that game. Your boys definitely earned it.

Originally Posted by ry1220

The refs were the only Packers players to show up today. (And Driver.)

Thanks, in particular to G&GH. I expected snide denials when I came back here to post this but these were classy responses. Anyway, it's still sticking in my craw days later. It really was terrible; it was like the Giants were playing against two teams instead of one. You ask yourself, what are the consequences, if any, for this?

[ry1220]

The defending Super Bowl Champ will always get calls for it. That's always been the case. The home team gets calls in its favor as well. Refs will say they're not influenced by the crowd, but that's simply not true.

Vikings fans have been saying for years that the Packers get unfair calls at Lambeau.

Officiating is always looked at as being biased from one side or the other. As Packer fans, we've been complaining for three years that the refs unfairly target Woodson for being physical and will often get called for DPI when his feet get tangled with a WR. We have been saying since at least the 2008-2009 season that Aaron Rodgers doesn't get the referee protection on hits (with last Sunday being a rare exception) that Brady or others do.

[ry1220]

Dola, you won. You guys beat us. (Or we beat ourselves.) The game wasn't close. I think you can let go of the two questionable calls that had no remote bearing on that outcome.

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by ry1220

Dola, you won. You guys beat us. (Or we beat ourselves.) The game wasn't close. I think you can let go of the two questionable calls that had no remote bearing on that outcome.

Actually, make that two bad calls, one bad non-call, and a bad spot. But, you're right. The only thing is that lingering question in my mind. What are the consequences, if any, for the guys in stripes who don't do their jobs right to the point that they could have determined the outcome of a closer game?

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Actually, make that two bad calls, one bad non-call, and a bad spot. But, you're right. The only thing is that lingering question in my mind. What are the consequences, if any, for the guys in stripes who don't do their jobs right to the point that they could have determined the outcome of a closer game?

I don't know what they normally do. I guess not let them ref playoff games for awhile.


I think the refs have to let the guys play. It almost seems like they want to be part of the game. More recently it has been roughing the passer and hitting a defenseless WR. How often do we see questionable pass interference and holding calls? It really takes away from the game.

Tell me, what is a DB supposed to do when a defenseless WR is catching a ball? Not hit him? Let him go? I can understand if the ball is no where near him, but I saw on two separate occasions a WR catch the ball, get hit, and the DB get flagged.

[ukhotstove]

Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

So did your 8-8 prediction factor in injuries to the 2 most important offensive players?

No, you can't predict injuries into your predictions. If i'd known certain players would be injured for some games I may have changed my 8-8 to a lower record along the lines of maybe 6-10 as I did have them going with a weak start and strong finish but it turned out the opposite, looking over their schedule I'd have probably changed the KC and Seattle games from a 8-8 to a 6-10 if I'd known about the injuries.

To be honest I don't think Cutler is good enough and I highly doubt the Bears will win a SB with him at QB, unless they come up with a Ravens type team.

[Chicagofan76]

Originally Posted by ukhotstove

To be honest I don't think Cutler is good enough and I highly doubt the Bears will win a SB with him at QB, unless they come up with a Ravens type team.

They have had that, and while Baltimore won with Trent Dilfer of all people, we still made it with Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton. That Ravens D and even the current Ravens D is better then the Bears although different type. They have a much better O line then the Bears have had in decades. Bears have just as good of a chance at going to the SB next yr as the Packers do. But they need misc improvements, O-Line, WR, DB. backup QB.

[ry1220]

Congrats to Aaron Rodgers for winning a very bittersweet MVP Award.