Terrell Owens In GQ: I'm In Hell - Page 2

The Chase Davis · 01-26-2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluenoser

There you go putting words in my mouth again. Where did I dismiss his situation? All I said is I have no sympathy for him, period. He needs to try and help himself first, and if he can show he's doing that then fair enough. Until he does though, too bad so sad for TO and his financial woes.

Thanks for doing all the work for me.

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Originally Posted by Bluenoser

You want to feel sorry for someone like that, that's your preogative. Go right ahead.

Since you're so good at this game. Where did I say I felt sorry for him?

AnotherAlias · 01-26-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marberi

You don't have to be a psychologist (or psychiatrist, for that matter) to know that mental illness can go undetected (even by professionals) and remain in a latent state for a long, long time until something triggers it.

Mental illness is not the same as mentally challenged. And even mentally challenged people do not need pity. Unlike mental retardation (which is an actual birth condition that cannot be helped), mental illness can be dealt with through the proper treatment and lots of hard work on part of the patient. If not treated, however, these people become their own worst enemy and they don't even realize it, thinking that the whole world is against them, instead.

Again, most times, people with this kind of condition are the first not to know anything about it. Any traumatic experience may cause this kind of malfunction, yet the problem may go unnoticed for years, decades even, till something triggers it. This is a fact; one that pretty much throws this "opportunity he has had to get help over the years" theory of yours out the window.

If dealing with mental conditions of this kind was so simple, they would've probably been eradicated a long time ago.

So he's been seeing some sort of therapy provider for his illness?

I haven't read that in the news. If he isn't, this sort of chatter is only speculation and opinion. In fact, I didn't even read anything in that article that even touched upon the possibility that he is mentally ill/challenged.

Maybe one of his ex-wives that he's paying child support to has indicated that he has mental issues?

Bluenoser · 01-26-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chase Davis

Thanks for doing all the work for me.

Since you're so good at this game. Where did I say I felt sorry for him?

That's the problem, you haven't said anything. Show me where you said you "don't" feel sorry for him. At least I stated my feelings and explained why I feel that way.

The Chase Davis · 01-26-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluenoser

That's the problem, you haven't said anything. Show me where you said you "don't" feel sorry for him. At least I stated my feelings and explained why I feel that way.

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Originally Posted by The Chase Davis

I wouldn't neccessarily say that I feel sorry for him. I mean he had a lot more resources available to him than I've ever had. It sucks that he's in the position he's in, but he's still alive and healthy and young.

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Originally Posted by The Chase Davis

I don't feel "sorry" for him, for reasons I explained above, but he's not someone who harmed other people or committed crimes.

2 different instances where I said I don't feel sorry for him. As in feeling sorry for him I don't. If feeling sorry for him is hair on my head and I don't have any..I don't feel it.

Bluenoser · 01-26-2012, 04:58 PM

Nm

Bluenoser · 01-26-2012, 05:01 PM

Nm

Marberi · 01-26-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AnotherAlias

So he's been seeing some sort of therapy provider for his illness?

I haven't read that in the news. If he isn't, this sort of chatter is only speculation and opinion. In fact, I didn't even read anything in that article that even touched upon the possibility that he is mentally ill/challenged.

Maybe one of his ex-wives that he's paying child support to has indicated that he has mental issues?

Honestly? I have no idea if T.O. has even been diagnosed with anything, let alone if he's in therapy. Nobody here is claiming that T.O. is going through something like this for sure. We're only speculating, just like you've just said, and discussing the possibility.

As for the article itself, there's this quote near the end, which clearly shows that the issue of depression was at least discussed during the interview: He says he's never been diagnosed as clinically depressed but he's been "real down."

Can't speak for anyone else, but to me, that would come as no surprise and would help explain a lot about the guy's erratic, aberrant behavior. Truth is I'm not that concerned with the guy's life to know (or care too much) about what's really going on, though. All I was saying is that the observations you made concerning mental illness in your previous post were completely off. And, as someone who has had first-hand experience with depression, I found that not only offensive, but extremely ignorant.

rudel.dietrich · 01-26-2012, 08:43 PM

He has made some bad business decisions but that is mainly from surrounding himself with bad decision makers. His agent Drew Rosenhaus lost $14.5 million of his money in an investment scheme that virtually amounted to a ponzi scheme.

As I said before, we are expecting someone who was a sub-standard highschool student and probably never had any business being in college to manage $80 million.
There are quite a number on this forum who would have trouble with that kind of fortune. Much less someone who if not for sports probably would have dropped out of highschool.

I think there are a lot of parallels with Mike Tyson. Mike also surrounded himself with a group of people who were only there to steal from him.
Now Tyson is more or less broke. But he also seems to be happier than at any point in his life. I think his wife and children have been a moderating force for him.
I hope one day TO can reach that point.

Goody · 01-26-2012, 11:31 PM

Did anyone forget that he fathered (was it 4?) children on a whim and and thinks being Terrel Owens and paying $$$ to their mothers is sufficient father duties?

That's why this country is hell in a hand-basket. Charles Ingalls would totally punch his ass out. And you know you're a douche when Charles has to punch your ass out.

Goody · 01-26-2012, 11:38 PM

I forgot this was TS, not OT. Grant me my infractions. Dangit! Hopefully just 1?

Sorry.

AnotherAlias · 01-27-2012, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Goody

I forgot this was TS, not OT. Grant me my infractions. Dangit! Hopefully just 1?

Sorry.

Nah. You didn't post anything worthy of an infraction. I don't think the mods are that sensitive, are they?

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01-26-2012, 08:43 PM	#28 (permalink)
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 4,983 Thanks: 4 Thanked 147x in 94 posts	He has made some bad business decisions but that is mainly from surrounding himself with bad decision makers. His agent Drew Rosenhaus lost $14.5 million of his money in an investment scheme that virtually amounted to a ponzi scheme. As I said before, we are expecting someone who was a sub-standard highschool student and probably never had any business being in college to manage $80 million. There are quite a number on this forum who would have trouble with that kind of fortune. Much less someone who if not for sports probably would have dropped out of highschool. I think there are a lot of parallels with Mike Tyson. Mike also surrounded himself with a group of people who were only there to steal from him. Now Tyson is more or less broke. But he also seems to be happier than at any point in his life. I think his wife and children have been a moderating force for him. I hope one day TO can reach that point.

01-26-2012, 11:31 PM	#29 (permalink)
Goody Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: PA Posts: 3,222 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 397 Thanked 164x in 118 posts	Did anyone forget that he fathered (was it 4?) children on a whim and and thinks being Terrel Owens and paying $$$ to their mothers is sufficient father duties? That's why this country is hell in a hand-basket. Charles Ingalls would totally punch his ass out. And you know you're a douche when Charles has to punch your ass out.

01-26-2012, 11:38 PM	#30 (permalink)
Goody Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: PA Posts: 3,222 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 397 Thanked 164x in 118 posts	I forgot this was TS, not OT. Grant me my infractions. Dangit! Hopefully just 1? Sorry.