Bobby Crosby

Syd Thrift · 01-30-2012, 06:30 PM

I am not a big hockey fan by any means but my favorite podcast (the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe) mentioned him in their latest episode so I thought I'd bring it up. Apparently he's been seeing a "neurologic chiropractor", which is long for "quack", in an effort to cure himself of his "concussion". Which, by the way, might not even be long-term effects of a "concussion" at all.

Report: Crosby battling vertebrae injury - sportsnet.ca

What's ironic here is that now he has one of the few injuries that a person trained in manipulation of the spine might be authorized to work on. Of course, I still would stay away from a chiropractor if I were him and go with an actual MD instead. I have to wonder, in fact, if this particular "doctor" exacerbated this injury. It really sucks to see a guy who might have been one of the greats in the history of his sport to be laid low like this.

John Madden · 01-30-2012, 06:47 PM

Did he get hit so hard that he forgot his name was Sidney and not Bobby?

Kobie · 01-30-2012, 08:00 PM

Cindy Crosby's hurt again. Shocking.

rudel.dietrich · 01-30-2012, 08:05 PM

Chiropractic medicine has long been recognized as a valid practice. Even more so in sports medicine.

However, if there truly is some spinal damage, manipulation of the spine might not be the best option.
And I do have to wonder if his career is pretty much over. He has missed the better of a season and most likely will never be the same.

The NHL needs to get tougher on hits to the head. A 10 game suspension for the first time. 27 game suspension for the second offense and a season long suspension for the third time.
Hits to the head would disappear after about two seasons.

John Madden · 01-30-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

Chiropractic medicine has long been recognized as a valid practice. Even more so in sports medicine.

However, if there truly is some spinal damage, manipulation of the spine might not be the best option.
And I do have to wonder if his career is pretty much over. He has missed the better of a season and most likely will never be the same.

The NHL needs to get tougher on hits to the head. A 10 game suspension for the first time. 27 game suspension for the second offense and a season long suspension for the third time.
Hits to the head would disappear after about two seasons.

The NFL could take notes on this as well.

Syd Thrift · 01-30-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

Chiropractic medicine has long been recognized as a valid practice. Even more so in sports medicine.

No it hasn't. It has long been recognized as woo woo that the medical establishment doesn't go after as fervently because it has worse things on its mind.

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However, if there truly is some spinal damage, manipulation of the spine might not be the best option.
And I do have to wonder if his career is pretty much over. He has missed the better of a season and most likely will never be the same.

The NHL needs to get tougher on hits to the head. A 10 game suspension for the first time. 27 game suspension for the second offense and a season long suspension for the third time.
Hits to the head would disappear after about two seasons.

27? I think you're being far too lenient. 28.4626 games or FIGHT

Syd Thrift · 01-30-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by John Madden

Did he get hit so hard that he forgot his name was Sidney and not Bobby?

STFU LIBE I SAID I WAS NOT A HOCKEY FAN

Anyway, back to the Bill Cosby debate...

Kobie · 01-30-2012, 08:29 PM

David Crosby frowns at your shenanigans!

Green & Gold Heart · 02-02-2012, 02:14 PM

Man, I was wondering what Bobby had done to get a thread made about him.

But no, just a case of mistaken identity and Bobby is still horrible at baseball.

LOL at the latest "news" on him on Rotoworld:

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According to Ben Nicholson-Smith of MLB Trade Rumors, three teams have expressed interest in free agent infielder Bobby Crosby.
Crosby was released by the Diamondbacks in late August of 2010 after batting just .220/.294/.298 with one home run in 168 at-bats between Pittsburgh and Arizona. MLBTR's source claims that one team is eyeing the 31-year-old "as a shortstop" and that the other two only want him for utility purposes. Our guess is that this "source" is actually Crosby's agent, because no MLB team is really going to use him for anything more than organizational depth. He'll likely have to settle for a minor league deal. Jan 13 - 6:11 PM

molarmite · 02-02-2012, 02:58 PM

Wasn't Bobby Crosby a great prospect at one point?

eriqjaffe · 02-02-2012, 03:12 PM

He was hilarious in all those "Road" movies with Bob Hope.

mirrf · 02-02-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

LOL at the latest "news" on him on Rotoworld:

I'd be a little surprised if anyone would even sign him to a minor league deal.

Green & Gold Heart · 02-02-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by molarmite

Wasn't Bobby Crosby a great prospect at one point?

Yep, former first round pick and 2004 AL Rookie of the Year. Once pitchers figured out his weaknesses though he just never adjusted, and became horrible.

Bobby Crosby Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com

statfreak · 02-02-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

Yep, former first round pick and 2004 AL Rookie of the Year. Once pitchers figured out his weaknesses though he just never adjusted, and became horrible.

Bobby Crosby Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com

So who had the more disappointing career, Pat Listach or Bobby Crosby?

magnet · 02-02-2012, 04:26 PM

And he shouldn't have even won that ROY!

Skipaway · 02-02-2012, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

No it hasn't. It has long been recognized as woo woo that the medical establishment doesn't go after as fervently because it has worse things on its mind.

27? I think you're being far too lenient. 28.4626 games or FIGHT

Medical establishment itself is often quack. A lot of things considered correct in medical establishment have been proven wrong by the establishment itself, and a lot of things the medical establishment considered wrong have sometimes proven to be right by the establishment.

I wouldn't be so sure about having the medical establishment as a strong authority. It's one of the best authority in the field, but it's hardly anything close to physical science.

For chiropractic specifically, there are definitely evidence-based uses. Just not all of the practices out there are consistently applying the same methods, and some of them are less evidence-based than others.

Green & Gold Heart · 02-03-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by magnet

And he shouldn't have even won that ROY!

ZOMG HRs! Yeah, by WAR looks like Greinke should've gotten it.

Green & Gold Heart · 02-03-2012, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by statfreak

So who had the more disappointing career, Pat Listach or Bobby Crosby?

Hmmm, tough call. Both were very disappointing. I think Crosby probably had higher expectations, as the A's let Miguel Tejada go to make room for him and batted him 3rd the season after his ROY. But Listach crashed and burned faster.

Green & Gold Heart · 02-03-2012, 08:42 AM

trola,

I remember on one of those baseball season preview shows (2006 maybe?), Peter Gammons predicted Bobby Crosby as MVP.

Syd Thrift · 02-03-2012, 10:17 AM

Typical lib response, taking a thread which is titled "Bobby Crosby" and turning it into a Bobby Crosby thread.

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Kobie Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 55 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4x in 3 posts	Cindy Crosby's hurt again. Shocking.

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rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 4,983 Thanks: 4 Thanked 147x in 94 posts	Chiropractic medicine has long been recognized as a valid practice. Even more so in sports medicine. However, if there truly is some spinal damage, manipulation of the spine might not be the best option. And I do have to wonder if his career is pretty much over. He has missed the better of a season and most likely will never be the same. The NHL needs to get tougher on hits to the head. A 10 game suspension for the first time. 27 game suspension for the second offense and a season long suspension for the third time. Hits to the head would disappear after about two seasons.

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