What were they thinking!?

hfield007 · 02-01-2012, 11:46 PM

To this day it boggles my mind.

Tom Glavine won the 1998 Cy Young award.

TOM GLAVINE.

Not teammate, Greg Maddux... not Kevin Brown of the Padres.

Glavine managed less complete games, innings pitched, shutouts, strikeouts and WAR all the while producing a higher ERA, walk rate, average against and WHIP.

Glavine managed a 20-6 record though compared to Brown's 18-7 and Maddux's 18-9.

Based clearly on record alone (pointless much?) they awarded the Cy Young award to a man who should have finished third at best (Al Leiter anyone?). It is one of the greatest inequities that always lives with me.

/endofrant

DustinthePOWERHOUSE · 02-01-2012, 11:54 PM

Yeah I was actually looking for a way to justify it but there really isn't a single stat that can make it honorable. In fact, there seems to be no other reason aside from wins, that he won.

I think your argument is valid. Terrible choice for the CY.

Left-handed Badger · 02-02-2012, 04:16 AM

Not eve close to the 1950 AL MVP selection

hfield007 · 02-02-2012, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Left-handed Badger

Not eve close to the 1950 AL MVP selection

Rizzuto wasn't really a horrible choice?

I think the NL pick that year was much worse.

Syd Thrift · 02-02-2012, 01:26 PM

Or Gonzo for MVP in 1998, which itself only happened because one of the reporters in Seattle gave his #1 vote to Griffey instead of A-Rod. Not that JuanGone should have been anywhere close to either player anyway. Anyway, the Cy Young has really only gotten unhooked from W/L in the past couple years. Zach Greinke was the watershed moment. It's not at all surprising to me anyway that the voters would overlook a better pitcher in favor of a 20 game winner as far back as that.

magnet · 02-02-2012, 01:37 PM

I came here planning on making a case for Zoilo Versailles as worst MVP ever (1965 AL), but he actually deserved that one. Conventional wisdom says he didn't, but he led the AL in WAR 7.9 to 7.0.

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hfield007 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 424 Thanks: 113 Thanked 167x in 85 posts	What were they thinking!? To this day it boggles my mind. Tom Glavine won the 1998 Cy Young award. TOM GLAVINE. Not teammate, Greg Maddux... not Kevin Brown of the Padres. Glavine managed less complete games, innings pitched, shutouts, strikeouts and WAR all the while producing a higher ERA, walk rate, average against and WHIP. Glavine managed a 20-6 record though compared to Brown's 18-7 and Maddux's 18-9. Based clearly on record alone (pointless much?) they awarded the Cy Young award to a man who should have finished third at best (Al Leiter anyone?). It is one of the greatest inequities that always lives with me. /endofrant

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DustinthePOWERHOUSE Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 125 Thanks: 21 Thanked 27x in 19 posts	Yeah I was actually looking for a way to justify it but there really isn't a single stat that can make it honorable. In fact, there seems to be no other reason aside from wins, that he won. I think your argument is valid. Terrible choice for the CY.

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magnet Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: OTher message Board Land Posts: 4,998 Thanks: 20 Thanked 20x in 17 posts	I came here planning on making a case for Zoilo Versailles as worst MVP ever (1965 AL), but he actually deserved that one. Conventional wisdom says he didn't, but he led the AL in WAR 7.9 to 7.0.