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Rizon · 10-02-2003, 02:42 PM

I think it's ok for the strikezone to be different between umps, but when the strikezone constantly changes throughout the game that's just wrong.

Great example was last night/this mornings A's/Red1918Sux game. I have never in my life seen umping that terrible. Well, I lie, but it's been awhile.

The strikezone was just bizarre. Pitches down the middle of the plate were balls. Then they were strikes. Then balls again. An inch to the outside of the plate was a ball, but 2 inches out was a strike. Then later the inch away was a strike, but then later again it was a ball. A pitch mid thigh was a ball, while belt buckle was a strike. Then later both were balls, then later both were strikes. Call just a consistant zone! No matter how bad it is, just be consistant.

It was just terrible, I was so angry the outcome of the game was going to rest on bad umping rather than the players on the field. I didn't want my Chokeland to lose by one of the dozen horrible umping calls, and I didn't want them to win by one either.

Someone needs to be accountable for this.

PS: I'm an accountant, and I have sharp pencils.

SoxWin · 10-02-2003, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Rizon
I think it's ok for the strikezone to be different between umps, but when the strikezone constantly changes throughout the game that's just wrong.

Great example was last night/this mornings A's/Red1918Sux game. I have never in my life seen umping that terrible. Well, I lie, but it's been awhile.

The strikezone was just bizarre. Pitches down the middle of the plate were balls. Then they were strikes. Then balls again. An inch to the outside of the plate was a ball, but 2 inches out was a strike. Then later the inch away was a strike, but then later again it was a ball. A pitch mid thigh was a ball, while belt buckle was a strike. Then later both were balls, then later both were strikes. Call just a consistant zone! No matter how bad it is, just be consistant.

It was just terrible, I was so angry the outcome of the game was going to rest on bad umping rather than the players on the field. I didn't want my Chokeland to lose by one of the dozen horrible umping calls, and I didn't want them to win by one either.

Someone needs to be accountable for this.

PS: I'm an accountant, and I have sharp pencils.

Couldn't agree more Riz, the umpiring behind the plate was the worst I've seen in a long time, maybe ever.

How the hell did an asshat like that get a playoff game?

AnotherAlias · 10-02-2003, 04:25 PM

Same issue in the Cubs/Braves game 1.

Froemming is not a very good ump, at least not during game 1. He was squeezing both teams and inconsistently.

andymac · 10-02-2003, 05:03 PM

Froeming got like 50% of the vote from the players for worst umpire in that Sports Illustrated article at the beginning of the season.

Le Grande Orange · 10-02-2003, 05:44 PM

Well, it used to be the case that for the postseason in MLB umpires were simply rotated, meaning that eventually any senior umpire could get a chance to umpire a playoff game. In other words, there was no accounting for actual ability, only seniority (not sure if this is still the case).

In the NFL and NHL, the officials are constantly graded throughout the season by the heads of officiating for the respective league. At the end of the regular season, those officals who had the highest grades based on their regular season performances were given the chance to officiate postseason games. In other words, the officials were chosen on the basis of their abilities (at least that is my understanding of how it works).

Draw your own conclusions as to which system is the better...

Rizon · 10-05-2003, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by Rizon

... I was so angry the outcome of the game was going to rest on bad umping rather than the players on the field. I didn't want my Chokeland to lose by one of the dozen horrible umping calls, and I didn't want them to win by one either.

Someone needs to be accountable for this.

Sickening, absolutely goddamn ****ing SICKENING.

10-02-2003, 02:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rizon All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: East Bay, CA Posts: 1,524	Strikezone Consistency: A's / Red Sux Game (PS 1918) I think it's ok for the strikezone to be different between umps, but when the strikezone constantly changes throughout the game that's just wrong. Great example was last night/this mornings A's/Red1918Sux game. I have never in my life seen umping that terrible. Well, I lie, but it's been awhile. The strikezone was just bizarre. Pitches down the middle of the plate were balls. Then they were strikes. Then balls again. An inch to the outside of the plate was a ball, but 2 inches out was a strike. Then later the inch away was a strike, but then later again it was a ball. A pitch mid thigh was a ball, while belt buckle was a strike. Then later both were balls, then later both were strikes. Call just a consistant zone! No matter how bad it is, just be consistant. It was just terrible, I was so angry the outcome of the game was going to rest on bad umping rather than the players on the field. I didn't want my Chokeland to lose by one of the dozen horrible umping calls, and I didn't want them to win by one either. Someone needs to be accountable for this. PS: I'm an accountant, and I have sharp pencils. __________________

10-02-2003, 04:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
AnotherAlias Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: On the floor, in pushup position Posts: 3,587 Thanked 2x in 1 post	Same issue in the Cubs/Braves game 1. Froemming is not a very good ump, at least not during game 1. He was squeezing both teams and inconsistently. __________________ http://vasiliz.deviantart.com/ A man with confidence in his own convictions, needs to offer no proof of their existence ~ AnotherAlias

10-02-2003, 05:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
andymac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 5,626	Froeming got like 50% of the vote from the players for worst umpire in that Sports Illustrated article at the beginning of the season. __________________ June Madness: Links FTB: andymac

10-02-2003, 05:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Scheduleslovakia Posts: 7,363 Thanked 69x in 44 posts	Well, it used to be the case that for the postseason in MLB umpires were simply rotated, meaning that eventually any senior umpire could get a chance to umpire a playoff game. In other words, there was no accounting for actual ability, only seniority (not sure if this is still the case). In the NFL and NHL, the officials are constantly graded throughout the season by the heads of officiating for the respective league. At the end of the regular season, those officals who had the highest grades based on their regular season performances were given the chance to officiate postseason games. In other words, the officials were chosen on the basis of their abilities (at least that is my understanding of how it works). Draw your own conclusions as to which system is the better... __________________ . "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things not because they are easy, but because they are hard. Because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our abilities and skills, because that challenge is one we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win." .

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