Dominik Hasek...

statfreak · 10-08-2003, 02:09 AM

I was excited when he announced his return. I'm probably the biggest mark for him and do think in his prime, he was the best goalie ever to play.

My God though, he couldn't stop a puck the size of a Mack truck now. Very disappointing to see your hero play so poorly.

Hope the Red Wings are able to score 4+ goals a night, they're gonna need to if they want to win any games with Hasek in goal.

Cuss16 · 10-08-2003, 02:20 AM

they could always go to cujo if it doesn't work out.

Rasmuth · 10-08-2003, 11:00 AM

Hasek only works when he wants to work...come crunch time he'll probably be fine.

Draft Dodger · 10-08-2003, 03:01 PM

the Wings are going to struggle out of the box this year. Hasek will play poorly, the Wings will not have a great record, and the Dominator will retire (again) by Christmas.

SoxWin · 10-08-2003, 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by Draft Dodger
the Wings are going to struggle out of the box this year. Hasek will play poorly, the Wings will not have a great record, and the Dominator will retire (again) by Christmas.

If that happens, they're screwed, I'd love it

I disagree though, Dom will be fine, he's just working out the rust right now.

Of course, if they had Aebischer, we wouldn't even be having this conversation

Long_Long_Name · 10-08-2003, 09:03 PM

1. The Red Wings signed Curtis Joseph, the most over rated goaltender in the NHL, to an astronomical contract. Big mistake.

2. The Red Wings sign Dominik Hasek, a washed up guy about to retire.

3. The Red Wings try to get rid of Joseph. Mistake.

Now that's what I hate. Most teams making such mistakes would be totally screwed. However, in a few years, when Hasek retires and they have no one to play that position, the Red Wings will be able to get another goaltender in free agency. Guuuh.

chrisj · 10-08-2003, 11:46 PM

Actually, you're right LLN. And that surprises me because Detriot management (in recent history) hasn't made many mistakes.

I'll never get why they got Haskek back. I just don't think he'll be the same goaltender he was.

Draft Dodger · 10-08-2003, 11:51 PM

I like Cujo - always have, always will. But, $8,000,000 was a CRAZY amount of money.

Long_Long_Name · 10-09-2003, 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by Draft Dodger
I like Cujo - always have, always will.

I like Marquis Grissom. Doesn't make him an outstanding ballplayer though.

Draft Dodger · 10-09-2003, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by Long_Long_Name
I like Marquis Grissom. Doesn't make him an outstanding ballplayer though.

I like Cujo because he's an outstanding goalie.

fantom1979 · 10-09-2003, 03:43 AM

Dont forget that if all else fails, the Wings have a third stringer that could probably start on most NHL teams.

EagleEye_0 · 10-09-2003, 01:52 PM

Ive always been a fan of Cujo as well. Hasek is going down tonight, the Kings even without Allison, Deadmarsh and A Miller will steam roll the Wings

Delgadodawg · 10-09-2003, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by chrisj
Actually, you're right LLN. And that surprises me because Detriot management (in recent history) hasn't made many mistakes.

I'll never get why they got Haskek back. I just don't think he'll be the same goaltender he was.

The Red Wings didn't really have a choice. It was Hasek who decided to come back because of the option in his contract.

What were the Wings supposed to do? Say no and pay him 9M to sit at home? He has a no trade clause so they can't trade him, so they are basically stuck.

Delgadodawg · 10-09-2003, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by Long_Long_Name

Now that's what I hate. Most teams making such mistakes would be totally screwed. However, in a few years, when Hasek retires and they have no one to play that position, the Red Wings will be able to get another goaltender in free agency. Guuuh.

Even with Legacy in net the Wings would be one of the top teams in the league.

atarizx3 · 10-09-2003, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by Draft Dodger
I like Cujo because he's an outstanding goalie.

DITTO, but a bit overpaid...

SoxWin · 10-09-2003, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Delgadodawg
The Red Wings didn't really have a choice. It was Hasek who decided to come back because of the option in his contract.

What were the Wings supposed to do? Say no and pay him 9M to sit at home? He has a no trade clause so they can't trade him, so they are basically stuck.

Sure they had a choice.

A - Hasek comes back and plays for Detroit, it was their option to pick up or decline, Hasek let them know he was playing this year, then it was up to Holland.

B - Hasek comes back to the NHL as a free agent since Det declines his option.

Hasek decided to come back, the Wings had to decide whether or not to accept the option. If they said no, they didn't have to pay him a dime, but they risked a competitor like the Av's signing him to take over from Roy.

Joseph has a no trade too. Basically, they have the choice of a top notch goalie or an above average goalie who's never won anything, anywhere, anytime.

They made the right call imo. Now, it remains to be seen how much $ they have to pick up to move Cujo to Carolina or somewhere out East.

Delgadodawg · 10-09-2003, 03:43 PM

oops, my mistake. I thought I had read somewhere that in this instance it was a player's option, but I was wrong that is not the case with Hasek.

Delgadodawg · 10-10-2003, 03:28 AM

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Ive always been a fan of Cujo as well. Hasek is going down tonight, the Kings even without Allison, Deadmarsh and A Miller will steam roll the Wings

Stevie Wonder!!!!!!!!!!!

EagleEye_0 · 10-10-2003, 05:13 PM

That was the sarcasm smiley wasnt it?

10-08-2003, 02:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
statfreak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 2,097 Thanks: 63 Thanked 83x in 43 posts	Dominik Hasek... I was excited when he announced his return. I'm probably the biggest mark for him and do think in his prime, he was the best goalie ever to play. My God though, he couldn't stop a puck the size of a Mack truck now. Very disappointing to see your hero play so poorly. Hope the Red Wings are able to score 4+ goals a night, they're gonna need to if they want to win any games with Hasek in goal. __________________ Roll out the barrel!

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Rasmuth All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Upstate Western NY Posts: 1,382 Thanks: 9 Thanked 17x in 14 posts	Hasek only works when he wants to work...come crunch time he'll probably be fine. __________________ http://www1.indiemusicworks.com/Rasmuth/ http://www1.indiemusicworks.com/The_Audio_Revival/

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Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	the Wings are going to struggle out of the box this year. Hasek will play poorly, the Wings will not have a great record, and the Dominator will retire (again) by Christmas. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

10-08-2003, 09:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,044 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	1. The Red Wings signed Curtis Joseph, the most over rated goaltender in the NHL, to an astronomical contract. Big mistake. 2. The Red Wings sign Dominik Hasek, a washed up guy about to retire. 3. The Red Wings try to get rid of Joseph. Mistake. Now that's what I hate. Most teams making such mistakes would be totally screwed. However, in a few years, when Hasek retires and they have no one to play that position, the Red Wings will be able to get another goaltender in free agency. Guuuh. __________________ Nor really around much anymore.

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chrisj All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Edmonton, Alberta (but still wishing I was in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada) Posts: 807 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13x in 4 posts	Actually, you're right LLN. And that surprises me because Detriot management (in recent history) hasn't made many mistakes. I'll never get why they got Haskek back. I just don't think he'll be the same goaltender he was. __________________ Canadian Baseball League -- Commissioner -- Calgary GM

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Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I like Cujo - always have, always will. But, $8,000,000 was a CRAZY amount of money. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

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fantom1979 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 3,494 Thanks: 41 Thanked 45x in 24 posts	Dont forget that if all else fails, the Wings have a third stringer that could probably start on most NHL teams. __________________ Useful OOTP Links: Webstore -- Download -- Download (OLD VERSIONS) -- Tech Support -- License Problems -- Newsletters -- Padresfan's Mod Site -- OOTP Merchandise

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EagleEye_0 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Ive always been a fan of Cujo as well. Hasek is going down tonight, the Kings even without Allison, Deadmarsh and A Miller will steam roll the Wings

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Delgadodawg All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Vancouver Posts: 782 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3x in 3 posts	oops, my mistake. I thought I had read somewhere that in this instance it was a player's option, but I was wrong that is not the case with Hasek. Last edited by Delgadodawg; 10-09-2003 at 03:51 PM.

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EagleEye_0 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	That was the sarcasm smiley wasnt it?

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