Johan Santana WILL WIN CY YOUNG! - Page 4

crackpott · 09-20-2004, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dannyc

THE HATERS HAVE BEEN OWNED

Yes. Owned. Proud day for you and your family.

swampdragon · 09-20-2004, 01:15 AM

Santana and Clemens. RJ is a great pitcher, but he's 14-13. There's no precedent for that. Clemens was awesome tonight: 8 IP, 2 H, 10Ks in a 1-0 game. If he wins 20, he's a lock.

darkhorse · 09-20-2004, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by swampdragon

Santana and Clemens. RJ is a great pitcher, but he's 14-13. There's no precedent for that.

There's plenty of precedence for ignorance, finally, being slain by knowledge. Who knows, someday there may be be Hispanics in Texas.

Johnson has been light years better than Clemens this year. He is significantly better than any other pitcher in the National League.

Skipaway · 09-20-2004, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by swampdragon

Santana and Clemens. RJ is a great pitcher, but he's 14-13. There's no precedent for that. Clemens was awesome tonight: 8 IP, 2 H, 10Ks in a 1-0 game. If he wins 20, he's a lock.

No, he's not a lock, because Carl Pavano got the same number of wins now, and got virtually the same ERA.

disposableheros · 09-20-2004, 02:58 AM

but pavano hasnt won 6 previous times, is not on his farwell tour, is not as high profile, and doesnt have a "story" behind him winning it (retires, comes back after "totally shutting it down", dominates, and wins another Cy, "see a 42 year old can bring it"

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CommishJoe · 09-21-2004, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

Since Santana has not signed a long term contract yet. Now the Twins got another chance to overpay a player right after their best year!!!!1111

Is he eligible for FA or arbitration?

tim_uwrf · 09-21-2004, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CommishJoe

Is he eligible for FA or arbitration?

I believe he has two more years of arbitration-eligibility. And with the Joe Mays fiasco and Santana having bone chips in his shoulder/elbow (don't remember) I'm not sure the Twins will sign him quite yet.

jaxmagicman · 09-21-2004, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CommishJoe

Is he eligible for FA or arbitration?

Typical Yankee fan.

Skipaway · 09-21-2004, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tim_uwrf

I believe he has two more years of arbitration-eligibility. And with the Joe Mays fiasco and Santana having bone chips in his shoulder/elbow (don't remember) I'm not sure the Twins will sign him quite yet.

But they'll have to pay huge sum through arbitration. The Twins already missed the chance to pay Santana cheap anyway.

CommishJoe · 09-21-2004, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

Typical Yankee fan.

Oh bite me. I was talking with someone about the Twins and he was saying they were building a dynasty. I was wondering when Pohlad would have to prove his penny pinching days were over. I said nothing about the Yankees going after him.

SoxWin · 09-21-2004, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CommishJoe

Is he eligible for FA or arbitration?

I believe he's a 6 year arb guy making him a FA after next season.

CommishJoe · 09-21-2004, 03:08 PM

Yeah, according to ESPN, he's got 5 years experience now. That's why I was asking. I dont know the "true" arby rules very well.

jaxmagicman · 09-21-2004, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CommishJoe

Oh bite me. I was talking with someone about the Twins and he was saying they were building a dynasty. I was wondering when Pohlad would have to prove his penny pinching days were over. I said nothing about the Yankees going after him.

I don't use smileys, but you should know I was joking.

twins15 · 09-21-2004, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

No, he's not a lock, because Carl Pavano got the same number of wins now, and got virtually the same ERA.

Yeah but this is Clemens farewell tour.

CommishJoe · 09-22-2004, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

I don't use smileys, but you should know I was joking.

I did

If it was Denton True, I might have thought he was serious.

darkhorse · 09-23-2004, 01:33 AM

I've been touting Carlos Guillen for AL MVP for quite some time, but I think I'd vote for Santana now.

magnet · 09-23-2004, 06:34 AM

i've been wearing this johan santana sig since the last game of the 2003 world series. i had even danny c beat

GeoWar · 09-24-2004, 06:01 PM

No ... if Boston wins it will be Curt S.

Maybe .... if Boston loses .... tight vote between Schilling, Santana, Mulder, and Rogers.

twins15 · 09-24-2004, 06:07 PM

Mulder and Rogers are no longer in the race any more.

Just Schilling and Santana. And really Schilling has no business being involved. Just Johan.

Dagrims · 11-11-2004, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagrims

If he doesn't win the Cy Young award I'll stop posting here for a month.

Well, thank goodness.

The original post was the best prediction made on these boards in the past year.

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swampdragon All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 1,729	Santana and Clemens. RJ is a great pitcher, but he's 14-13. There's no precedent for that. Clemens was awesome tonight: 8 IP, 2 H, 10Ks in a 1-0 game. If he wins 20, he's a lock.

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