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GForce · 12-14-2004, 06:05 PM

Byrd gets 1 yr, $4.5M. Ortiz sent to Reds for minor league pitcher Dustin Moseley.

GH

remangiii · 12-14-2004, 06:08 PM

nevermind

benchwarmer · 12-14-2004, 06:10 PM

I like Ortiz more the Byrd.

sebastian0622 · 12-14-2004, 06:13 PM

Wow, $4.5 mil is a lot to pay for 8 starts a season.

Karros270 · 12-14-2004, 10:30 PM

IF Paul Byrd stays healthy and IF he has a good K:BB ratio and IF he has an ERA under 4 and IF he pitches over 175 innings I like this move for the Angels. In fact, then I like it a lot.

remangiii · 12-14-2004, 10:33 PM

I think you could say about just about any pitcher, save a few.

Karros270 · 12-14-2004, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remangiii

I think you could say about just about any pitcher, save a few.

No no, any pitcher that does that for $4.5M is a steal. I'm just saying, if he achieves those numbers then this was a great move. Just like if Darren Dreifort miraculously comes back and wins 20+ games for the Dodgers next year the $13M they're paying him will look pretty cheap.

crazyhorsejohnny · 12-14-2004, 10:58 PM

I agree. Ortiz has a better arm. Rumors surfaced he was badly influenced by Jose Guillen last year. 4.5 mil for a #5 starter? What a joke. And what did Pavano get? 10mil? I guess all a pitcher has to do is have 1 good year and he's rolling in th $$$. Byrd had a good year with KC a couple years ago but that was a fluke. The whole team played above their heads.

MrWorkrate · 12-15-2004, 12:04 AM

Wow, can we blame the entire Angels season on Jose Guillen? What was Guillen doing, teaching Ortiz the knuckleball?

Perhaps Ortiz's crap season can be somehow be attributed to his hatred for A.J. Pierzynski and Anaheim's proximity to San Francisco.

crazyhorsejohnny · 12-15-2004, 12:33 AM

Strip bars.

sebastian0622 · 12-15-2004, 02:50 AM

Video games.

crazyhorsejohnny · 12-15-2004, 10:14 PM

Blame the entire season on Guillen? What the ***? After they cut him loose, they went on a run and made the playoffs.

12-14-2004, 06:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
GForce Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,458 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Angels Sign Paul Byrd; Deal Ortiz to Reds Byrd gets 1 yr, $4.5M. Ortiz sent to Reds for minor league pitcher Dustin Moseley. GH

12-14-2004, 06:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
remangiii Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: At this point, any shade of green will do Posts: 4,938 Thanks: 6 Thanked 7x in 5 posts	nevermind __________________ 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

12-14-2004, 10:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Karros270 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,392 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	IF Paul Byrd stays healthy and IF he has a good K:BB ratio and IF he has an ERA under 4 and IF he pitches over 175 innings I like this move for the Angels. In fact, then I like it a lot. __________________ now everybody's praying...don't prey on me

12-14-2004, 10:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
remangiii Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: At this point, any shade of green will do Posts: 4,938 Thanks: 6 Thanked 7x in 5 posts	I think you could say about just about any pitcher, save a few. __________________ 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

12-15-2004, 12:04 AM	#9 (permalink)
MrWorkrate All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	Wow, can we blame the entire Angels season on Jose Guillen? What was Guillen doing, teaching Ortiz the knuckleball? Perhaps Ortiz's crap season can be somehow be attributed to his hatred for A.J. Pierzynski and Anaheim's proximity to San Francisco. __________________ I used to come here a lot. Now, not so much.

12-14-2004, 06:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
benchwarmer Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 1,462 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I like Ortiz more the Byrd.

12-14-2004, 06:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
sebastian0622 Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,465 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Wow, $4.5 mil is a lot to pay for 8 starts a season.

12-14-2004, 10:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
crazyhorsejohnny All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 806 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I agree. Ortiz has a better arm. Rumors surfaced he was badly influenced by Jose Guillen last year. 4.5 mil for a #5 starter? What a joke. And what did Pavano get? 10mil? I guess all a pitcher has to do is have 1 good year and he's rolling in th $$$. Byrd had a good year with KC a couple years ago but that was a fluke. The whole team played above their heads.

12-15-2004, 12:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
crazyhorsejohnny All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 806 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Strip bars.

12-15-2004, 02:50 AM	#11 (permalink)
sebastian0622 Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,465 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Video games.

12-15-2004, 10:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
crazyhorsejohnny All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 806 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Blame the entire season on Guillen? What the ***? After they cut him loose, they went on a run and made the playoffs.

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