Nutmeg State Fighters

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Magallon is a 9-5 fighter who is not better than 85% of his weight class no matter how much you want to prop up Matt. The thing is he doesn't need propping up ... like I said

I don't remember when I saw him probably as filler on the March card with Andy Lee. But that is his 4th straight decision win so I'm questioning his power now.

I haven't tried to prop him up at all, he's a 22-year old who can have a future in the sport. I think I've given him the proper credit and no more.

There are 1091 active featherweights, so the cutoff for the 85th percentile is No. 165, the 80th percentile is 218. In a totally dispassionate analysis, I'd say the two guys he beat are somewhere in that neighborhood.

But, I don't think Matt is No. 49, that's probably too high. To me, you have to prove you're as good as a Top 50 guy to be in the Top 50 and he hasn't done that yet. Thus, the call to fight a Top 100 guy, which I'd hope would happen in the next year and then we'll know more.

[mh2365]

If you want to make a case that Matt is better than 85% of the division then I would agree but you clearly said Magallon was, which is a joke.

Matt fought a stiff, plain and simple, and wasn't able to get a guy out of there that he should have. But as I've said in every other post, I like Matt but I'm guessing now that he doesn't have very much power and will have to rely on boxing skills. I'm just questioning the "as good as I've seen him comment" when he didn't do what he should have done and gotten a stiff out of there instead of going 10 with him.

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by mh2365

If you want to make a case that Matt is better than 85% of the division then I would agree but you clearly said Magallon was, which is a joke.

I am not sure why this is such an argument, I think Will was just making a statement of fact:

Current number of active featherweights = 1,091

The following are Remillard opponents that are still active:

Fighter---boxrec rank---percentile

Magallon--------134--------88th
J.S. Perez-------229--------80th
Manuel Perez----159--------86th
Jose Hernandez--109--------91st
Oscar De La Cruz-339-------69th
Leo Martinez-----247-------78th
Edward Valdez---314-------72nd
Ricky Alexander--618-------44th
Yamin Mohammad-342------69th


Even if boxrec's rankings are as flawed as I think they are, the last four opponents are in the upper quarter of what's available world-wide in the division right now. While they are not top flight fighters, they are not plumbing the depths of stiffdom either.

[mh2365]

Okay I guess if you two want to say a punchy 9-5 fighter is one of the top 15% fighters at that weight and it was a great great win to not stop a guy who Mickey Bey Jr. stopped then I guess I will let you.

Screams irrational fanboydom though.

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Okay I guess if you two want to say a punchy 9-5 fighter is one of the top 15% fighters at that weight and it was a great great win to not stop a guy who Mickey Bey Jr. stopped then I guess I will let you.

Screams irrational fanboydom though.

I don't see that anyone here has made that claim Mike. Boxrec makes the claim; and flawed though it may be, says he is actualy in the top 12% of active featherwights. I don't think that means that he is any good, but that's where he is in that measurement system.

[mh2365]

Read Thunder's post he said it was the best he had ever seen Matt ... my comment was that if that was the best he has been (not stopping a stiff) then that is pretty sad ... then he started trying to justify it.

Oh well I'm done ... you guys continue your little love in ....

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Read Thunder's post he said it was the best he had ever seen Matt ... my comment was that if that was the best he has been (not stopping a stiff) then that is pretty sad ... then he started trying to justify it.

Oh well I'm done ... you guys continue your little love in ....

Yes I did and I'd do it again. Losing to undefeated Mickey Bey doesn't make one a stiff and at 22, I doubt he's punchy.

[Romultiltus]

While I'm by no means on the Remillard bandwagon, I will say that Magallon is no stiff - at least not on Friday night. He pressed forward for most of the fight and took Remillard's best punches. Even after going down once, he continued to come forward and throw punches.

While I did not see much of the pre-injury Remillard and have not been in attendance at any of his public workouts, he is a good fighter. Outside of Chad Dawson, there is slim pickings for homegrown fighters here in Connecticut.

Overall, I'm not really a big fan of the lower weight classes, mostly because the little guys really don't punch hard enough to hurt each other with true KO power. That being said (only my opinion), Remillard is a very accurate puncher and throws nice combinations. I still think he needs a few more "easy" fights to regain the form he had before his injury. At 22, he still has a lot of time to improve. Only time will tell.

[bdennis2]

Hey Chris been reinstated i'll give you a call and tell you all about it "you will never believe the problem". I guess i am one off the love in,s <Bill>
LENNOX LEWIS one off the great fighters and i am a fan of the 70,s one of the greatest era in boxing bar none.Yes i am an oldtimer but i do know when boxing was great.

[CONN CHRIS]

Hi Bill:
Glad to hear things are back to normal! I am pretty busy this week but should have some time to talk if you want to give me a jingle around 5:00 on Wednesday or Friday.

Christopher

[Romultiltus]

Dawson gives up WBC belt;
Diaconu now lightheavy champ!
Friday, July 11 2008


Chad Dawson has informed the WBC that he will not defend his WBC light heavyweight championship against Adrian Diaconu and therefore is relinquishing the title. Both fighters had gone to a purse offer that was won by Romanian promoter Gangkor Promotions. The WBC has released the following statement: The WBC feels very disillusioned with Dawson’s decision, as he was going to make the highest purse of his life against Diaconu, as well as the WBC always supporting Dawson since he won the WBC Continental Americas title in 2003 and later asking permission to the organization not to fight Adrian Diaconu in a final elimination bout, but be allowed to fight directly against Tomasz Adamek for the title in a voluntary defense, which the WBC accepted and to become the WBC champion of the world in 2007. Once again the WBC supported Chad Dawson allowing him to make a voluntary defense against Glen Johnson, in which Chad Dawson signed a letter agreeing to fight Diaconu next. It happens that he found the way not to fight Diaconu again. It seems that the reason for Dawson not to comply with the WBC Rules is because a commitment that he has with a television network, which is apparently interfering with the rights and infrastructure of the WBC, which must be addressed in the near future.


Wow - I really have lost a lot of respect for Chad Dawson. I was kind of down on him after his punk attitute after his win against Glen Johnson. He looked terrible in the fight and Glen Johnson desverves a rematch, which Dawson refused. Now he's ducking Diaconu again and pissing his title away. Bad day for boxing in Connecticut.

[CONN CHRIS]

That's disapointing about Dawson but I can't really bring myself to side with the WBC on much of anything either.

[Thunder]

Not quite CT, but close . . . and mildly amusing



Open Letter to Chris Arreola From U.S. Olympian Jason Estrada
For Immediate Release
Dear Chris,

Congratulations on your win last weekend against Chazz Whitherspoon. I honestly didn’t agree with the referee’s decision to disqualify Chazz. Hell, I really wasn’t impressed by anything you did.

I think it’s time for us to determine who America’s top heavyweight prospect is. There’s been a lot of hype about you being the “Nightmare,” but you’ve never fought anybody quite like “Big Six.”

Chris, I had an understanding that if Chazz had beaten you, he was going to fight me next. I am going to be world [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]heavyweight [COLOR=blue ! important]champion[/color][/color][/color] and I’m willing and able to fight anybody who is in my way, including you, Chris. I’m calling you out, brother. I know you want to be heavyweight champ, too, so try and go through me instead of taking the easy way out.

I’ve been minding my business, fighting anybody my promoter Jimmy Burchfield has put in front of me. None of them have had a losing record and the combined record of my opponents when they fought me is 203-73-9. Nine of your 24 opponents had losing records, 256-180-21 overall. There are a lot of cupcakes and tomato cans on your resume. My opponents had a winning percentage of 71-percent, yours is only 56-percent. Can you spell PROTECTED?

I’ve sat back and watched other so-called prospects like you fighting stiff after stiff. And somehow the media has bought into you being the “Nightmare” because you’ve knocked out so many of these guys. You’re a strong club-fighter, that’s it, at least until you beat somebody like me, a [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]boxer[/color][/color] whose skills you’ve never been in against.

I have one loss on my record because I was willing to fight in the other guy’s (Travis Walker) hometown. He had 20 pro fights, I only had six, and I hurt my shoulder early in the fight. Yet, I still almost pulled off a victory.

I’m ready to fight you to prove I’m America’s No. 1 heavyweight hope. Chris, let’s make it happen. All of the top rated heavyweights are tied up for months, anyway. Who’s out there for you other than more ready-made opponents?
Styles make fights and fans always love to watch a puncher like you fight a boxer like me. Supposedly, I can’t punch, so just get into the ring with me and find out what I have -- great whiskers and the fastest hands in our division.

You’re supposed to be the “Nightmare.” Try and scare me; I dare you, Chris.

Sincerely,

Jason “Big Six” Estrada
2004 U.S. Olympian
Future World Heavyweight Champion

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by Romultiltus

Wow - I really have lost a lot of respect for Chad Dawson. I was kind of down on him after his punk attitute after his win against Glen Johnson. He looked terrible in the fight and Glen Johnson desverves a rematch, which Dawson refused. Now he's ducking Diaconu again and pissing his title away. Bad day for boxing in Connecticut.

I agree, looks bad for Chad . .but with Tarver on the horizon in Nov. . . not sure I want to crap on him too much

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by Thunder

Sincerely,

Jason “Big Six” Estrada
2004 U.S. Olympian
Future World Heavyweight Champion

He'll have better luck on Last Comic Standing.

[Jersey-Jim]

Does anyone know? I'm not talking about WBO type stuff, but recognizable title holders? I'm assuming New York, but I could be wrong. When I say "state" I'm talking about the state the fighter lived and trained in during his career - not necessarily where he was born.

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by Jersey-Jim

Does anyone know? I'm not talking about WBO type stuff, but recognizable title holders? I'm assuming New York, but I could be wrong. When I say "state" I'm talking about the state the fighter lived and trained in during his career - not necessarily where he was born.

I don't see how it could possibly be any state outside of NY, CA or PA. I would have a tough time making a guess between the three but I'd say your assumption about NY is probably correct. NJ and maybe MA are likely a rung down from those three.

Someone, somewhere must have compiled this. In fact, I would be shocked if it hasn't appeared in the pages of the Ring somewhere along the way.

[Jersey-Jim]

The Ring did an ethnic fighter special about 20 years ago that was great. Italian, Jewish, German American fighters were featured. It seems that NY State dominated the boxing scene for years. There was the NYSAC World heavyweight title that was considered to be THE TITLE for a period of time.

I don't ever recall seeing an article about it, though. I'm sure the East Coast has produced more champs than the West Coast, but that's because the East was settled/established first.

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

He'll have better luck on Last Comic Standing.

That's a great line

Fights at Twin River, R.I., Aug. 22.
I think at one time it was going to be Peter Manfredo, Jr.-Joey Spina II, but Manfredo is fighting someone else . . . I'm really itching to see some fights, but no local presence right now, so very doubtful

[CONN CHRIS]

It will be a cold day in hell (or a Remillard fight) when I travel to another state to take in the Burchfield Follies again.

This made me chuckle from CES' main web page:

Jason "Big Six" Estrada and Jimmy Burchfield are calling on the Top Heavyweights in the World to fight Jason.
Please contact Jimmy at 401-724-2253.