Evander Holyfield To Make Ring Return Against Jeremy Bates On August 18

[Scoman]

DALLAS, TEXAS---Four-time World Heavyweight Champion, Evander Holyfield (38-8-2, Atlanta), will begin his quest for a history making - fifth heavyweight title when he returns to the ring to face veteran, Jeremy Bates (21-11-1, Ashland, KY), at Dallas’ American Airlines Center on Friday, August 18th.

The Holyfield vs Bates, ten-round non-title bout will headline a seven-bout fight card which begins locally at 8:00 pm (Central time). The event will be televised nationally on Fox Sports Net’s “Best Damn Sports Show” with air-time at 10:30 p.m. Eastern/9:30 p.m. Central time. The event was originally to be scheduled for Saturday, August 19, but was moved to August 18 to accommodate the FSN television broadcast

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[meade95]

Here is to wishing that the great Commander Vander gets a good win and then decides to retire several weeks later -

He is 10 years (or more) past his prime - He has accomplished all one can accomplish - I hope he gets a win and bows out -

[Romdawg88]

Holyfield picking up a win might be the worst possible thing that can as it might convince he can still compete. Hopefully, he loses a clear cut deicison were he doesn't take to much punishment and then he calls it quits.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

Holyfield picking up a win might be the worst possible thing that can as it might convince he can still compete. Hopefully, he loses a clear cut deicison were he doesn't take to much punishment and then he calls it quits.

I agree with you Romy. Holyfield used to be one of my favorite fighters - remember when he was robbed in the Olympics? And how could you dislike a fighter that just kept coming after it. Those fights with Bowe were classics, and kicking Tyson's butt was one of my favorite boxing moments.

But it's been a very long time since he's been a good fighter, and quite a while since he's even been ring worthy. Now he just risks further damage. I wish he'd lose, see the light, and walk away.

[meade95]

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

Holyfield picking up a win might be the worst possible thing that can as it might convince he can still compete. Hopefully, he loses a clear cut deicison were he doesn't take to much punishment and then he calls it quits.

Nah - The old warrior deserves to go out in with a win ( I know most warriors fall on their shield)....but Vander has been beaten via decision in his last outing (in several of them).....he is without question a shell of his fomrer all-time great self.......but he is a warrior at heart still.

I like to see the man have a good outting (a good win) and then come to the conclusion after the fact that he should hang them up....go out with a win.

[Romdawg88]

Don't get me wrong I would love to see Evander get the win and retire, I just don't think he will retire if he wins heck I have my doubts if he will retire even if he loses. I just hopes that regardless of what happens in this next match it's his last.

[erickdamac]

at this point i dont care, because he dont care. Whats worst is guys like ronnie shields saying dont count him out.

[Scoman]

Evander should rest on his laurels, he has nothing to prove.
He is a champion, I really don't know what is going though Evander's head, is it money? , does he still think he has something to prove?,we all know he doesn't. Can Evander be another George Foreman? My gut is telling me no.Its time for him to gracefully bow out. Move on . And take his place in boxing history...

[Antonin]

I agree that Evander doesn't have anything to prove.

I wish he would stay retired. It's very pathetic that a man that many would regard as one of the best HWs ever, or at least of his era, wants to step into the ring once again, years and years after his prime.

Move on, Evander. Manage some fighters, nurture the next world-dominating HW, be a boxing analyst, be a promoter....but stay the heck out of the ring.

I won't watch this fight. I won't even bother to check the net or the morning paper to see who won.

[Romultiltus]

If Evander manages to squeak out a win against Bates, there's always Danny Wofford or Joe Mesi to kick around ...

[a87star]

Originally Posted by Romultiltus

If Evander manages to squeak out a win against Bates, there's always Danny Wofford or Joe Mesi to kick around ...

I'm sure Stacy Goodson could find him a good Southern/Midwest tomato can to beat on. He does manage Marcus Rhode. I'm sure he would be a suitable opponent.

[bplotkin]

This is pathetic--who's next, some guy out of an old age home?

Pity someone close to Evander won't tell him it's OVER.

[meade95]

Originally Posted by bplotkin

This is pathetic--who's next, some guy out of an old age home?

Pity someone close to Evander won't tell him it's OVER.

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[meade95]

Originally Posted by bplotkin

This is pathetic--who's next, some guy out of an old age home?

Pity someone close to Evander won't tell him it's OVER.

It is not pathetic at all - Again, is Evander past his prime (most certainly) so are apprx 50% of all athletes playing in professional sports at any given time -

Do I wish he would have retired? Yes. I wish he would have went out way back in 97 when it was clear he was past his best days. When he beat Moorer in their second fight....his hand speed and legs were already starting to decline (it was clear then).

However the notion that Evander fighting or still wanting to get in the ring and test himself.....as an adult man....who has every right to make decisions for himself.....No, that is not pathetic. Now if coming off these 3 losses he would have been given a title shot....well then, maybe that would have been pathetic of a championship belt to saction such a fight.

But Evander simply fighting another fighter within the HW division is not pathetic at all....in and of itself.


But perhaps what is a real pitty is that some close to you....won't tell you....you clearly have the intellect of an adolescent child by insisting on your childish avatar on a boxing forum. But then again.....

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by meade95

It is not pathetic at all - Again, is Evander past his prime (most certainly) so are apprx 50% of all athletes playing in professional sports at any given time -

Do I wish he would have retired? Yes. I wish he would have went out way back in 97 when it was clear he was past his best days. When he beat Moorer in their second fight....his hand speed and legs were already starting to decline (it was clear then).

However the notion that Evander fighting or still wanting to get in the ring and test himself.....as an adult man....who has every right to make decisions for himself.....No, that is not pathetic. Now if coming off these 3 losses he would have been given a title shot....well then, maybe that would have been pathetic of a championship belt to saction such a fight.

But Evander simply fighting another fighter within the HW division is not pathetic at all....in and of itself.


But perhaps what is a real pitty is that some close to you....won't tell you....you clearly have the intellect of an adolescent child by insisting on your childish avatar on a boxing forum. But then again.....

I used to respect the heck out of you, Meade. Can't believe you used this forum to make this statement. Bummer.

[meade95]

Originally Posted by bigMatt

I used to respect the heck out of you, Meade. Can't believe you used this forum to make this statement. Bummer.

And I can't believe others (supposed adults) are using this forum to post silly pictures along side their names.

If you respect the hell out of that type behavior.......so be it.

I find it quite odd that childish pictures (avatar's) and or completely ill-informed and completely off topic posts are allowed to be posted or made.....and that is fine (totally acceptable)....yet if someone takes a little jab back at this childish / foolish behavior.....Well then, that is just awful and wrong.

Get out of dodge.

[mh2365]

Not to mention completely slanderous pictures ... but anyways just do what I did Meade and put him on your ignore list ... bplotkin's only purpose in this forum is to cause problems, he has never once contributed a single thing to this forum.

He also has consistently just made things up to start arguments, like his whole thing with Fusion all of which was made up. But watch as he tries to take credit for them working on it now .. when everyone knows it was Danny's fight for the longest time and he went about it the right way, he didn't just make things up.


Just ignore him, he's not worth the effort.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by meade95

I find it quite odd that childish pictures (avatar's) and or completely ill-informed and completely off topic posts are allowed to be posted or made.....and that is fine (totally acceptable)

You mean like the half dozen I've read coming from you in the past week?

This forum is about boxing. More avatars than not that I've seen are not about boxing, whether it is the football cowboys (hate 'em), cubs (not my team) or any number of bimbos guys consider attractive. Who cares. It is all part of what someone feels important. Your scatter shot commentary from your far-right wing perch is anything but impressive to me. Maybe you should stick to boxing and then the rest of us wouldn't be so embarrassed for you.

I'd also suggest your "ill-informed" label is merely a matter of perspective

[meade95]

Originally Posted by bigMatt

You mean like the half dozen I've read coming from you in the past week?

This forum is about boxing. More avatars than not that I've seen are not about boxing, whether it is the football cowboys (hate 'em), cubs (not my team) or any number of bimbos guys consider attractive. Who cares. It is all part of what someone feels important. Your scatter shot commentary from your far-right wing perch is anything but impressive to me. Maybe you should stick to boxing and then the rest of us wouldn't be so embarrassed for you.

Typical - When one simply responds to some leftist BS....those on the left whine and cry -

If some on here want to post silly and foolish comments - When they are responded to....so be it.

If some want to post silly and childish avatar's - When they are responded to...so be it.

I've seen plenty of people make comments about "the cowboys suck"...and that is that.....Well if your avatar is a childish / third grade material.....expect a jab at you every now and then.

Another fact is - I've never once posted anything political (party related) simply for the fact to post it - And I've been here since 2003!! Bud.

I've only responded (once in a great while) to others silly rants - Reality is Lethel Liberal forever had his silly avatar up there (I never said a word).....only responded to him after a number of his silly, ill-informed posts regarding subjects which had nothing to do with boxing.

And bud no one is embarrassed for me. Children try and make points like that. Grow up.