TBCB Pound for Pound.

mh2365 · 08-12-2007, 11:43 PM

Put your top 10 here on sunday August 19th I will tally it. 10 points for #1 and so on.

Here is mine

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. Miguel Cotto
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Jermain Taylor
7. Israel Vazquez
8. Ricky Hatton
9. Mikkel Kessler
10. Wladimir Klitschko

meade95 · 08-12-2007, 11:59 PM

I like this idea - A TBCB Top 10 - Good call mh2365 -

Then I go to do my own....and hell, as much as I completely love this sport.....It is down right now.....I don't think I can name 10 people I truly think deserve to be on a Top 10 P4P list.....

But I still plan to post one by tomorrow.......Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting boxing is dying or the UFC is going to take over (the UFC has no shot whatsoever at replacing boxing...and I'm a somewhat fan of the UFC...but it is not on the same level of boxing).....Boxing will bounce back in the next few years......but IMO, I really see it as being down right now......From HWs to Strawweight...(with the expection of just a few divisions).

IceTea · 08-13-2007, 12:08 AM

1- Floyd Mayweather
2- Manny Pacquiao
3- Joe Calzaghe
4- Chris John
5- Miguel Angel Cotto
6- Shane Mosley
7- Mikkel Kessler
8- Ricky Hatton
9- Chad Dawson
10- Juan Diaz

a87star · 08-13-2007, 01:19 AM

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Miguel Cotto
6. Israel Vasquez
7. Jermain Taylor
8. Mikkel Kessler
9. Chad Dawson
10. Rafael Marquez

Thunder · 08-13-2007, 02:33 AM

1. Pac-Man
2. PBF
3. Calzaghe
4. Cotto
5. Mosley
6. Taylor
7. Hopkins
8. Hatton
9. Dawson
10. Wlad
11. Winky, there, maybe he'll get half a point

mh2365 · 08-13-2007, 12:19 PM

None of us have listed JMM yet ... hmmm

I'd like to get about 10 ... I think we could do this every couple of months.

BigFiasco · 08-13-2007, 12:35 PM

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Maywether
3. Miguel Cotto
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Joe Calzaghe
6. Jermain Taylor
7. Ricky Hatton
8. Mikkel Kessler
9. Wladimir K.
10. Israel Vazquez

meade95 · 08-13-2007, 02:55 PM

1. PBF
2. PacMan
3. B. Hopkins
4. J. Calzage
5. I. Vasquez
6. R. Marquez
7. R. Hatton
8. M. Cotto
9. JMM
10. H. Hasegawa

mh2365 · 08-13-2007, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meade95

1. PBF
2. PacMan
3. B. Hopkins
4. J. Calzage
5. I. Vasquez
6. R. Marquez
7. R. Hatton
8. M. Cotto
9. JMM
10. H. Hasegawa

Good list, I was wandering what little guy you would get in there. Hasegawa is a pretty good choice .. finally JMM makes an appearance!

bp_ · 08-13-2007, 08:58 PM

I'd do a list but I am not sure I've seen enough of any of the fighters to make a top 10 (I really only watch when boxing is on HBO). I don't think I've even seen Israel Vazquez fight. So, I will refrain.

I am surprised Hopkins is so high on a lot of lists. I wouldn't even consider him for a top 10...and I don't even know enough of the fighters!

Looking at these lists has me drooling for Kessler/Calzaghe

IceTea · 08-13-2007, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bp_

I'd do a list but I am not sure I've seen enough of any of the fighters to make a top 10 (I really only watch when boxing is on HBO). I don't think I've even seen Israel Vazquez fight. So, I will refrain.

I am surprised Hopkins is so high on a lot of lists. I wouldn't even consider him for a top 10...and I don't even know enough of the fighters!

Looking at these lists has me drooling for Kessler/Calzaghe

* I think Vasquez gets hit far too much to be in the top ten and cuts too easily. If it was a top ten TV list, he would be at or near the top.

MJ

mh2365 · 08-13-2007, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bp_

I'd do a list but I am not sure I've seen enough of any of the fighters to make a top 10 (I really only watch when boxing is on HBO). I don't think I've even seen Israel Vazquez fight. So, I will refrain.

I am surprised Hopkins is so high on a lot of lists. I wouldn't even consider him for a top 10...and I don't even know enough of the fighters!

Looking at these lists has me drooling for Kessler/Calzaghe

I will preface this by saying I thought the first Taylor-Hopkins fight was clearly won by Taylor and the second one was closer ... Hopkins, in some eyes, won both fights. Then moved up and demolished Tarver and handled Winky Wright with not much problems. I hate Hopkins but at 42 he is still good enough to beat 95% of LHW-MW fighters.

mh2365 · 08-14-2007, 09:56 AM

6 Lists in .. would like to see 4 more at least by Sunday. Top 10 (fighters, not positions) looking pretty set after 6 though

a87star · 08-14-2007, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceTea

* I think Vasquez gets hit far too much to be in the top ten and cuts too easily. If it was a top ten TV list, he would be at or near the top.

MJ

Vasquez might get cut a lot but he's one of the top two or three fighters in the JFW division. His defense might be a little weak but he's very adept in all other areas and has beat a lot of top fighters in his weight class. That alone makes it hard not to consider him as a p4p fighter.

mh2365 · 08-15-2007, 07:32 AM

Come on board I can't believe we only have 6 people who have an opinion on this!

gocubsgo · 08-15-2007, 02:59 PM

Okay here is my list. Take it with a grain of salt because i don't think i watch nearly as many fights as you guys.

1. Pacuiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Miguel Cotto
4. Joe Calzage
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Ricky Hatton
7. Mosely
8. Jermain Taylor
9. Vazquez
10. Wladimir Klitschko

Had to include Wlad because i am still a heavyweight fan.

vistaman44 · 08-15-2007, 09:12 PM

... had to go 15. Five through 15 are so close, and I didn't get Vasquez in!

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Miguel Cotto
4. Joe Calzaghe
5. Jermain Taylor
6. Chad Dawson
7. Rafael Marquez
8. Chris John
9. Juan Manuel Marquez
10. Marco Antonio Barrera
11. Bernard Freaking Hopkins
12. Oscar De La Hoya
13. Mikkel Kessler
14. Winky Wright
15. Ricky Hatton

mh2365 · 08-15-2007, 11:16 PM

Sweet would like to see two more votes ... that would give us 10. Then in October we will do it again

Scoman · 08-15-2007, 11:41 PM

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Joe Calzaghe
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Miguel Cotto
7. Jermain Taylor
8. Winky Wright
9. Israel Vazquez
10.Ricky Hatton

btown32 · 08-15-2007, 11:54 PM

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Joe Calzaghe - not one of my favs, but has been doing it for so long.
4. Jermaine Taylor - would like to see him step up more.
5. Miguel Cotto - my fav young fighter.
6. Mikkel Kessler - hope he beats Calzaghe.
7. Bernard Hopkins - lower because of inactivity.
8. Ricky Hatton
9. Chad Dawson - maybe too early in career for this spot.
10. Juan Diaz

08-12-2007, 11:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	TBCB Pound for Pound. Put your top 10 here on sunday August 19th I will tally it. 10 points for #1 and so on. Here is mine 1. Floyd Mayweather 2. Manny Pacquiao 3. Joe Calzaghe 4. Miguel Cotto 5. Bernard Hopkins 6. Jermain Taylor 7. Israel Vazquez 8. Ricky Hatton 9. Mikkel Kessler 10. Wladimir Klitschko

08-12-2007, 11:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
meade95 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,795	I like this idea - A TBCB Top 10 - Good call mh2365 - Then I go to do my own....and hell, as much as I completely love this sport.....It is down right now.....I don't think I can name 10 people I truly think deserve to be on a Top 10 P4P list..... But I still plan to post one by tomorrow.......Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting boxing is dying or the UFC is going to take over (the UFC has no shot whatsoever at replacing boxing...and I'm a somewhat fan of the UFC...but it is not on the same level of boxing).....Boxing will bounce back in the next few years......but IMO, I really see it as being down right now......From HWs to Strawweight...(with the expection of just a few divisions). Last edited by meade95 : 08-13-2007 at 12:22 AM.

08-13-2007, 12:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Utica, NY Posts: 6,913	1- Floyd Mayweather 2- Manny Pacquiao 3- Joe Calzaghe 4- Chris John 5- Miguel Angel Cotto 6- Shane Mosley 7- Mikkel Kessler 8- Ricky Hatton 9- Chad Dawson 10- Juan Diaz __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Understanding Title Bout Boxing Ratings Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Philly Boxing History Last edited by IceTea : 08-13-2007 at 12:11 AM.

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Thunder Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 3,180	1. Pac-Man 2. PBF 3. Calzaghe 4. Cotto 5. Mosley 6. Taylor 7. Hopkins 8. Hatton 9. Dawson 10. Wlad 11. Winky, there, maybe he'll get half a point __________________ A government of the people, by the people, and for the people has not perished from the Earth. ~ A person I won't name said this, but he proved the U.S. electorate is sick of baseless partisan attacks (but for reasons unknown, the only ones that don't seem to have gotten the message are the ones who lost out because of said attacks).

08-13-2007, 02:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
meade95 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,795	1. PBF 2. PacMan 3. B. Hopkins 4. J. Calzage 5. I. Vasquez 6. R. Marquez 7. R. Hatton 8. M. Cotto 9. JMM 10. H. Hasegawa Last edited by meade95 : 08-13-2007 at 04:58 PM.

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a87star Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 4,023	1. Floyd Mayweather 2. Manny Pacquiao 3. Joe Calzaghe 4. Bernard Hopkins 5. Miguel Cotto 6. Israel Vasquez 7. Jermain Taylor 8. Mikkel Kessler 9. Chad Dawson 10. Rafael Marquez

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mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	None of us have listed JMM yet ... hmmm I'd like to get about 10 ... I think we could do this every couple of months.

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BigFiasco Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 79	1. Manny Pacquiao 2. Floyd Maywether 3. Miguel Cotto 4. Bernard Hopkins 5. Joe Calzaghe 6. Jermain Taylor 7. Ricky Hatton 8. Mikkel Kessler 9. Wladimir K. 10. Israel Vazquez

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bp_ Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 2,408	I'd do a list but I am not sure I've seen enough of any of the fighters to make a top 10 (I really only watch when boxing is on HBO). I don't think I've even seen Israel Vazquez fight. So, I will refrain. I am surprised Hopkins is so high on a lot of lists. I wouldn't even consider him for a top 10...and I don't even know enough of the fighters! Looking at these lists has me drooling for Kessler/Calzaghe __________________ "al Qaeda wouldn't last a day in parts of Philadelphia" - Mayor Michael Nutter

08-14-2007, 09:56 AM	#13 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	6 Lists in .. would like to see 4 more at least by Sunday. Top 10 (fighters, not positions) looking pretty set after 6 though

08-15-2007, 07:32 AM	#15 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Come on board I can't believe we only have 6 people who have an opinion on this!

08-15-2007, 02:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,303	Okay here is my list. Take it with a grain of salt because i don't think i watch nearly as many fights as you guys. 1. Pacuiao 2. Floyd Mayweather 3. Miguel Cotto 4. Joe Calzage 5. Bernard Hopkins 6. Ricky Hatton 7. Mosely 8. Jermain Taylor 9. Vazquez 10. Wladimir Klitschko Had to include Wlad because i am still a heavyweight fan.

08-15-2007, 09:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
vistaman44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Auxvasse, Mo. Posts: 3,143	Sorry, but I ... ... had to go 15. Five through 15 are so close, and I didn't get Vasquez in! 1. Manny Pacquiao 2. Floyd Mayweather 3. Miguel Cotto 4. Joe Calzaghe 5. Jermain Taylor 6. Chad Dawson 7. Rafael Marquez 8. Chris John 9. Juan Manuel Marquez 10. Marco Antonio Barrera 11. Bernard Freaking Hopkins 12. Oscar De La Hoya 13. Mikkel Kessler 14. Winky Wright 15. Ricky Hatton __________________ ---Mark (vistaman44) "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters, compared to what lies within us." — Ralph Waldo Emerson, American essayist, philosopher and poet (1803-1882) ----------------------------------- Currently operating 1980s JM-HW, 1940s, African, 1980s LW and women's boxing universes

08-15-2007, 11:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Sweet would like to see two more votes ... that would give us 10. Then in October we will do it again

08-15-2007, 11:41 PM	#19 (permalink)
Scoman All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: heath ohio Posts: 1,029	1. Floyd Mayweather Jr. 2. Manny Pacquiao 3. Juan Manuel Marquez 4. Joe Calzaghe 5. Bernard Hopkins 6. Miguel Cotto 7. Jermain Taylor 8. Winky Wright 9. Israel Vazquez 10.Ricky Hatton __________________

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08-15-2007, 11:54 PM	#20 (permalink)
btown32 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lakewood, CA, USA Posts: 2,780	1. Floyd Mayweather Jr. 2. Manny Pacquiao 3. Joe Calzaghe - not one of my favs, but has been doing it for so long. 4. Jermaine Taylor - would like to see him step up more. 5. Miguel Cotto - my fav young fighter. 6. Mikkel Kessler - hope he beats Calzaghe. 7. Bernard Hopkins - lower because of inactivity. 8. Ricky Hatton 9. Chad Dawson - maybe too early in career for this spot. 10. Juan Diaz __________________ B-town Boxing: A Heavyweight Universe B-town Boxing: A Heavyweight Universe: All Title Holders B-town Boxing: A Heavyweight Universe: Promotional Stables & Records B-town Boxing: A Heavyweight Universe: Upcoming Promotional Bouts Schedule B-town Boxing: A Heavyweight Universe: World Title Lineage Heavyweight File Exchange