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Old 11-29-2007, 03:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Oleydong upsets Eagle (Kyowa) for Strawweight title

Oleydong Sithsamerchai 25-0-0 (9) Upset highly considered Champion Eagle Kyowa (Den Janlaphan) 18-2-0 - via close UD earlier today in Thailand......

Champion Ealge looked flat...and seemed to constantly be looking for the KO.....while challenger Oleydong backpeddled and counter punched the entire 12 rounds......Eagle pressed the fight.....but didn't put his punches together in his typical combination fashion.....seemingly looking to score a KO......

I had the fight very close...... Give credit to Oleydong for fighting his type fight......but damn did Eagle look flat.....

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BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand's Oledong Sithsanerchai pulled off a shock points victory over compatriot Eagle Den Janlapan to win the WBC strawweight title on Thursday.

The eagerly awaited bout was the first all-Thai world title fight and drew a huge crowd, which backed Oledong all the way over Japan-based Den.

Oledong, the 17-times undefeated WBC youth champion, had the edge in a close and entertaining contest to deny Den (18-2-1) a victory in his sixth successive defense of the title.

The judges gave Oledong the advantage at 114-115, 112-117, 113-115, which improved his record to 25-0.

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It was Eagle who entered the ring heavily favoured to retain his title and on two judges scorecards he won the first round, while Brian McMohan of Australia scored it as a 10-10 tie.


But later, Oledong got into his stride, using his magnificent footwork and started to bob and weave, making Eagle miss many punches.


Eagle was smiling during the first four rounds as Oledong danced and moved out of trouble and threw some well-timed left jabs and hooks and mixed it up with some good combinations. But Oledong won both the second and third rounds on all three judges scorecards.


In the fourth, Eagle tried hard to make a comeback. The smile vanished as he tried hard to take control of the contest. But Oledong bounced back with changed tactics and moving fast on his feet, he threw some tidy, accurate punches.With brilliant bobbing and weaving. Oledong won the next three rounds comfortably.


From the eighth stanza, Eagle tried in desperation to corner Oledong, but the young Thai, moved beautifully out of trouble. Though Australia's McMohan scored the next three rounds in favour of Eagle the other two judges differed. Gerald Ritter gave two rounds to the champion and Ferdinan Esrtrella gave them to Oledong.


The eleventh and 12th rounds were shared by the two protagonists and in the end Brian McMohan of Australia had Oledong win 115-114, Gerald Ritter of the US picked Oledong 115-113 and Ferdinan Estrella of the Philippines picked Oledong victor by 117-112.

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Old 11-29-2007, 04:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I knew there would be an upset in this fight but everyone was saying Eagle Den Jalaphan (Kyowa) would dominate. Oleydong Sithsamerchai is the real deal. Seen him fight an number of times and is a slick boxer who would give anyone trouble. I think he could beat Niida and Condes as well.

Eagle will probably head up to JFLY or FLY now. His issues making weight were evident in this fight.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I knew there would be an upset in this fight but everyone was saying Eagle Den Jalaphan (Kyowa) would dominate. Oleydong Sithsamerchai is the real deal. Seen him fight an number of times and is a slick boxer who would give anyone trouble. I think he could beat Niida and Condes as well.

Eagle will probably head up to JFLY or FLY now. His issues making weight were evident in this fight.
Oleydong is definitely talented......But the notion of running for an entire 12 rounds and winning a title....doesn't always sit well with me.....(and he ran quite a bit)....

I've seen Ealge's camp has said there will be a rematch......so we'll likely see that. I think Eagle got way to caught up in all the hype of his lack of KO's (for being a guy who is physically much stronger than his opponents).....He was simply looking for the KO the entire fight.....not using his speed and combination punching to cut off the ring on Oleydong.

Oleydong is certainly a Top 10 SW.......A rematch will be fun to watch.....
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm looking forward to a rematch as well but my biggest concern is can Eagle still make weight without him having any physical issues? He just looked so lethargic the entire fight and was looking for the one big shot to bail him out. Eagle is at his best when he throws combinations and uses his speed to keep opponents off balance.

Meade.......how do you think Oleydong would fare against Niida and Condes? I think he could outbox them but i'm curious about your thoughts about those potential fights.

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I'm looking forward to a rematch as well but my biggest concern is can Eagle still make weight without him having any physical issues? He just looked so lethargic the entire fight and was looking for the one big shot to bail him out. Eagle is at his best when he throws combinations and uses his speed to keep opponents off balance.

Meade.......how do you think Oleydong would fare against Niida and Condes? I think he could outbox them but i'm curious about your thoughts about those potential fights.
Oleydong I'm confident would beat Condes.....he'd box circles around him....(of course Condes would always have a punchers chance....but if it went the full 12rds Oleydong would win it easily).... As for Niida, he is a tough guy...who seems to always win close fights.....Never looks all that great...but he fights effective.....

I'd might make Niida a slight favorite......just based on his experience (at this time). Then again, Oleydong just managed to the beat the best Strawweight out there in Eagle (it was him or Calderon).....
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How were you able to watch it.

I'm thinking of getting the PPV from New Mexico this weekend.

Meade ... do you know anything about this Juan Esquer who is fighting Calderon Saturday night?

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How were you able to watch it.

I'm thinking of getting the PPV from New Mexico this weekend.

Meade ... do you know anything about this Juan Esquer who is fighting Calderon Saturday night?
Good friend (trading partner) gave me an upload of it early today - I'll look to upload it on one of the sites if I get time.....I did that a while back with several other fights.....(Eagle being one or two of them)....

Eagle just looked flat today.....Constantly looking for the KO...which isn't his game.....(but still, it was a close fight......I'd bet the farm on Eagle in a rematch).

With that said....Oleydong without a doubt gave Eagle problems....and one would have to say at this time now....that Calderon should be the favorite if those two ever meet...(or if they had met at SW).......Though I believe Eagle would have fought a much different fight Vs Calderon (with much more respect toward him).

As for Juan Esquer.......He is young (only 21 or 22) and raw at this point. He was beaten soundly by another limited fighter Manuel Vargas earlier this year (07).....He'll have a 4 inch height advantage over Calderon.......but he likely won't pose much of a threat to Calderon....
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Speaking of the Top Rank card on Saturday.......I see Jore Arce is in the main event. Meade.....would happen to know anything about his opponent, Medgoen Singsurat. I looked up his record and saw that he beat Manny Pacquiao back in 1999 and hasn't done much since.
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Speaking of the Top Rank card on Saturday.......I see Jore Arce is in the main event. Meade.....would happen to know anything about his opponent, Medgoen Singsurat. I looked up his record and saw that he beat Manny Pacquiao back in 1999 and hasn't done much since.
That is Singsurat's claim to fame......That he TKO'd a completely weight drained PacMan and took his Fly Wt title....... I've seen about 7 or 8 of his fights on tape.......He doesn't have a glass chin.....but close......He's been KO'd in all his 4 losses I believe....and I've seen him hurt several other times......

He has a decent punch (himself)....but lacks any head movement and has poor defense.......made to order for Arce in that regard........Will likely be an entertaining but short (inside of 6 rds) fight with Arce....
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That is Singsurat's claim to fame......That he TKO'd a completely weight drained PacMan and took his Fly Wt title....... I've seen about 7 or 8 of his fights on tape.......He doesn't have a glass chin.....but close......He's been KO'd in all his 4 losses I believe....and I've seen him hurt several other times......

He has a decent punch (himself)....but lacks any head movement and has poor defense.......made to order for Arce in that regard........Will likely be an entertaining but short (inside of 6 rds) fight with Arce....
Arce should be able to take out Singsurat within the first half of the fight. The odd thing is that the winner becomes the WBC Latino BW champion. How a fighter from Thailand ended up being a suitable opponent in this stuation is beyond me.
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Anyone else getting this card ... I'm still undecided since I'm doing PPV next weekend to. I wish one you b***tards lived closer to split the costs.
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Move closer to cizilization (i.e. New England - center of the world) and we'll talk.
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Rematch between Eagle and Oleydong is basically set - Oleydong will make one (easier type) defense in Thailand early next year.....and then they will have a rematch...... Likely April (ish).

Eagle will be favored in the rematch......He fought a silly (try to KO'em) fight plan for the first 6 rounds....and still only lost a very close decision.... (it was a 1 or 2 pt fight...either way).
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watch Oleydong lose the easier defensive
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It would be nice if a group of us lived closer.....Hell, it would make getting about every PPV card much more economical.....

As for this fight card......I'm likely not getting it.....
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You're probably right!!......Which makes boxing what it is.....
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The division seems more stable these days. Ten years ago you could have almost bet that he'd lose the belt to a Thai or Indonesian fighter with less than 6 bouts and at least 2 or 3 losses.
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It would be nice if a group of us lived closer.....Hell, it would make getting about every PPV card much more economical.....

As for this fight card......I'm likely not getting it.....
I'm struggling with it because Arce is always action packed .. I know Calderon will be a snoozefest ... I enjoy watching the progress of Chavez Jr. So there are a lot of pluses to it. If it were 24.95 instead of 34.95 I would have already ordered it.
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I'm struggling with it because Arce is always action packed .. I know Calderon will be a snoozefest ... I enjoy watching the progress of Chavez Jr. So there are a lot of pluses to it. If it were 24.95 instead of 34.95 I would have already ordered it.
Exactly - I do that quite often....Think if it was $10 less, I'd buy it.........Then I usually end up thinking....."when the hell am I ever going to be down to my last $10??....never".....and I end up ordering it right before fight time......

I like Arce a lot....so his fight Vs Singsurat will be exciting (while it lasts, Singsurat will stand and trade with him....no doubt about that.....but Singsurat chin is very so, so). I agree about Calderon......and the Chavez Jr. fight has some interesting aspects to it......

But yeah, $19.99 or around there makes much more sense to me...
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I'm struggling with it because Arce is always action packed .. I know Calderon will be a snoozefest ... I enjoy watching the progress of Chavez Jr. So there are a lot of pluses to it. If it were 24.95 instead of 34.95 I would have already ordered it.
Yeah, I'm not getting it either. I got the Vargas fight last Friday (replay on ESPN Classic Sat @ 8pm) & then we have the Showtime card & Floyd's fight next week.

There's another PPV card on the 15th but I'll pass on that one as well.
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