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Old 11-29-2007, 04:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Mike McCallum's conditioning rating

As some of you would have read, Jamaica's Mike McCallum suffered an upset defeat in his professional debut in my IBL universe. The version of him that I am using is a 14-rated Junior-Middleweight (moved into the Middleweight division with all the other JMWs). However, despite his rating being 14 his Conditioning rating is 10. Now, I know it could be that he's some kind of flawed genius but I was wondering if this conditioning rating is accurate. To anyone who has better knowledge of McCallum than I do, was he terrible at preparing for his fights in real life? It would seem to me that he wasn't as he only lost 5 of 55 fights.

In the fight he lost against Elisha Obed the bout log says that he undertrained and I have worked that into the story, saying he was more concerned with partying, getting laid and getting high than getting ready for the fight. But I would like to know if I should change his conditioning rating because if he turns up out of shape for each fight it will just ruin his chances of success in my uni.

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Old 11-29-2007, 06:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A 10 for condition factor seems very high (what is the verbage used to associate a 10 with?, I forget).

McCallum was a professionals professional. Came to the ring each and every time ready to work....espeically in his prime.......Heck even past his prime he was able to give a prime James Toney all he could handle.....
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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KC, I don't know if this makes you feel any better or not but I have 2 files on him (JMW & MW) and both have his conditioning at 10.

I never noticed that he was rated so poorly in this department. Now you have me wondering about it.

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Old 11-29-2007, 06:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It seems very strange to me, also, 'cause from all I've read about him he seemed like a real professional.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Malcontent: This fighter is frequently overly sensitive and his usual
demeanor is one of dissatisfaction. It could be that he is having
managerial problems; it could be that he is unhappy over the size of
his purse or maybe just over the fact that his opponent's name is
bigger than his on the publicity posters. Be aware that some fighters
(like Bernard Hopkins) are motivated be what they consider
disrespect and it improves their performance. Fighter of that ilk
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It doesn't have the highest chance of negative effect but it's up there. It has a 30% chance of negative effect.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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"Be aware that some fighters (like Bernard Hopkins) are motivated be what they consider
disrespect and it improves their performance. Fighter of that ilk should not be assigned this rating."

I say the 10 is a mistake - If/when McCallum did have issues with the Hearn's, SRL's, Haglers, Duran's getting all the headlines and praise......I would suggest the words above reflect what such did for him (to him)....more so than have any negative effect on his performances.....
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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So what do you think his conditioning should be?
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:50 AM   #8 (permalink)
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McCallum's should be a 1. He didn't let the fact that others ducked him effect his performance in the ring. Fighters like Greg Page, Tim Witherspoon, and Pinklon Thomas however, should be issued the 10 rating. You could agrue that most of the heavyweigths that Don King managed/promoted minus Larry Holmes in the 80s could be issued the 10 conditioning rating.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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McCallum's should be a 1. He didn't let the fact that others ducked him effect his performance in the ring. Fighters like Greg Page, Tim Witherspoon, and Pinklon Thomas however, should be issued the 10 rating. You could agrue that most of the heavyweigths that Don King managed/promoted minus Larry Holmes in the 80s could be issued the 10 conditioning rating.
Totally agree with this. Also, if I remember rightly, didn't McCallums wife die just prior to his fight with Don Curry and he still managed to stay focused, scoring a sensational knockout.
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Thanks, guys. I will change it to 1 and in the story I'll have an article leading into his next fight about how the loss to Obed was "a wake up call".
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That was one of the most sensational one-punch KO's of all time, and I wouldn't let the fact that McCallum lost his first fight upset you that much
as Henry Armstrong lost three of his first four and he wasn't to bad was he,
and this can happen from time to time.


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That was one of the most sensational one-punch KO's of all time, and I wouldn't let the fact that McCallum lost his first fight upset you that much
as Henry Armstrong lost three of his first four and he wasn't to bad was he,
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I'm not really upset about it, but I was worried that if I kept his conditioning rating at 10 he'd end up losing more than he wins. His tournament group is mega tough.
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