This is justa sad...very sad

[Tommysixfingers]

From Fightnews.com

Buckley loses again!
Winless streak reaches 80
Danish super featherweight Kim "Golden Boy" Poulsen added another victory to his resume on Wednesday at the Café Royal in London, England, when he outscored Peter Buckley over six rounds. Poulsen knocked Buckley down in the second, but couldn't finish the cagey journeyman off, and had to settle for a clear 60-53 verdict from scoring referee Mark Green. Poulsen is now (6-1, 1 KO). Buckley dropped to a dismal 31-248-11 with 8 KOs, and brought his winless streak to 80. All 80 bouts went the distance. Also on the show promoted by Mickey Helliet and the Mayfair Sporting Club, London-based South African Ruben Groenewald (20-5-3) returned to action after two years of inactivity with a decision over Mark Nilsen (6-2) at light heavyweight, welterweight Darren Hamilton (4-0) stayed undefeated with a points-win over Byron Vince (1-1), and middleweight Wayne Alwan (3-0) did likewise against Mark Phillips (9-49).
Friday, November 30 2007

[a87star]

I'll give Mr. Buckley credit........he does have survival skills and to get KO'ed only 10 times in 248 losses is pretty darn good. If Tony Booth was able to do a documentary.....Peter Buckley should be next in line.

[CONN CHRIS]

This kind of thing doesn't strike me as sad; these guys love the ring but it just doesn't love 'em back. Wofford, Booth, Strickland - they have a place in boxing. They aren't incompetent. Sad is having a half-blind Blade Barkley dragged into the ring to pad someone's record because he needs the dough and can't discern what's good or bad for himself any more.

[Tommysixfingers]

I don't know Chris...I really do think that 80 straight (80, eighty) straight losses is kind of a sad thing. It's his record not his persona and such.

I've never heard of Mr.Buckley before and if he is happy with his career choice it's all good. I've never seen him box and know nothing about his skills ( allthough I could make a guess).

I completely agree with the rest of your post.

[mh2365]

What is sad is that Wayne McCullough is fighting again this weekend.

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by mh2365

What is sad is that Wayne McCullough is fighting again this weekend.

And Riddick Bowe is back in "training" as well.

[a87star]

Originally Posted by mh2365

What is sad is that Wayne McCullough is fighting again this weekend.

I agree. He's taken a lot of punishment in his career and it would be terrible to see Wayne suffer some sort of permanent injury. His opponent, Kiko Garcia, is not a soft touch either.

[mh2365]

Seeing Wayne back in the ring is almost as sad as if Gatti was getting back in the ring.

[Mad Bomber]

Just the fact that McCullough is fighting is sad, and whatever commission
gives Bowe a License to fight should be banished.


Greg

[Ian Lord]

Peter Buckley fights out of the Nobby Nobbs stable in Birmingham. Nobbys fighters lose most of the time, but they usually go the distance, thus stopping them getting a thirty day suspension. They fight regular and are the lifeblood of boxing in Britain. The 'Have gloves will travel types', they are a bit of a throwback and have saved countless fight cards in the UK at the last minute.
Also, Peter Buckley fights in my GBA universe.

[a87star]

Nobby Nobbs affectionately calls his group of journeyman "Losers Unlimited". Howard Clarke, Brian Coleman, Jason Nesbitt, Arv Mitoo, and Peter Buckley are/were part of that stable at one time or another. A documentary on them would be very interesting.

[Romultiltus]

Here's another ring veteran...

UK JMW "Desperate" Peter Dunn is 11-87-4 (0) and fought 23 times so far in 2007 going an amazing 0-23-0 (0) in 4-6 rounders. All losses were by decision.

In fact he has lost 41 of his last 42 fights going back to February 2006. The only bright spot was a 4-round Draw against a guy making his pro debut.

[btown32]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

This kind of thing doesn't strike me as sad; these guys love the ring but it just doesn't love 'em back. Wofford, Booth, Strickland - they have a place in boxing. They aren't incompetent. Sad is having a half-blind Blade Barkley dragged into the ring to pad someone's record because he needs the dough and can't discern what's good or bad for himself any more.

Or Meldrick Taylor, still fighting at his age because nobody is willing or can legally stop him from fighting even though he has damage and has trouble speaking. If one state's commission doesn't allow him to fight, he can always go to another state with less stringent regulations.

[Cap]

Originally Posted by btown32

Or Meldrick Taylor, still fighting at his age because nobody is willing or can legally stop him from fighting even though he has damage and has trouble speaking. If one state's commission doesn't allow him to fight, he can always go to another state with less stringent regulations.

Just one more reason, if another was needed, for the creation of a strong genuine international boxing commission. However, I don't see the political will or even interest anywhere to move in this direction. If anything, I could see a movement to abolish the sport first, thus seemingly eliminating the need for real reform.

Cap

[meade95]

Originally Posted by Cap

Just one more reason, if another was needed, for the creation of a strong genuine international boxing commission. However, I don't see the political will or even interest anywhere to move in this direction. If anything, I could see a movement to abolish the sport first, thus seemingly eliminating the need for real reform.

Cap

A private (non-Government) ran commission I could be inclinded to support. However, the notion of Government backed (controlled, regulated) boxing commission is utter foolishness to me. You want to see boxing become more screwed up......Get Government (s) more involved.....Fighters will make less money (i.e. additonal fees/taxes) and ratings / rankings will be more corrputed/inheritly flawed than ever....

Would a retirement type system (pension of sorts) be a good idea for boxing? Most certainly. But for such the fighters need to pay into such a system. Out of their already existing paychecks. Not certain if they want to do this....and it isn't the role of others, outside the business to demand such on them (at a higher cost to boot.....which would certainly be the case if mandated).

The notion of boxing being abolished has been spouted for decades and decades and decades now.....Not going to happen. Hell, sports like UFC/MMA are only growing. Boxers acorss the scope are making more money today...than ever....(and that goes for the TCs).

[mh2365]

The way I see the government getting involved would be sort of like they did with baseball. If they hadn't intervened baseball would still be looking the other way with steroids.

I think McCain had the right idea when he was trying to get involved and I think he would be a good guy to be in charge of boxing in a private sector role.

Meade is right government controlled is a bad idea, government forcing the issue IMO is not a bad idea.

[meade95]

Originally Posted by mh2365

The way I see the government getting involved would be sort of like they did with baseball. If they hadn't intervened baseball would still be looking the other way with steroids.

I think McCain had the right idea when he was trying to get involved and I think he would be a good guy to be in charge of boxing in a private sector role.

Meade is right government controlled is a bad idea, government forcing the issue IMO is not a bad idea.

I hear you...In theory here.......but reality is, it was a joke that a bunch of blow hard Senators believe they should be running anything and everything, including baseball. These guys are all a bunch of people who can't even do thier own daily jobs....without huge bloated staffs and even more ridiculous budgets that no one in the private sector could afford (that level of waste).... I just find it so disingenuous as hell to watch.

Privately boxing can put together a commission if it so wishes......I do not see the need for Government.......and furthermore believe Government controlled over even overseeing would only screw the sport up....

Also I wouldn't give credit to Senators for baseball and the steriod issue. Steriod use was already illegal to use....and the likes of McGuire, Cansco (sp) and others who were using more.....had retired before these blow hard Senators ever became involved.........The issue was already clearing itself up.......Senators (Gov't) just wanted their own "face time" to tout that they were the reason for the clean up....(far from the truth).

[mh2365]

I think we aren't too far apart on our opinions on it. In a perfect world McCain would drop out of the presidential race and politics in general and become the commissioner of boxing.

Also Bob Costas would become the commissioner of baseball.

[Cap]

That might work for a national US body, but what about world-wide? Just a thought for discussion. What about a board of control organized by the top international promoters and some of the wealthier boxers? Would it be in their interest to create an international governing body for the sport? With boxing fairly popular around the globe, someone has to have the final say on who the World champion is. Or do we just have a "generally recognized by most people" champion?

Cap