Tonight on Versus

[a87star]

I have been looking forward to this fight card since it was announced. In the main event, Joshua Clottey is facing Shamone Alvarez and the co-feature is Tye Fields vs. Chris Koval.

My predictions:

Clottey KO9 Alvarez
Fields TKO1 Koval

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by a87star

I have been looking forward to this fight card since it was announced. In the main event, Joshua Clottey is facing Shamone Alvarez and the co-feature is Tye Fields vs. Chris Koval.

My predictions:

Clottey KO9 Alvarez
Fields TKO1 Koval

and replay of Nonito Donaire-Darchinyan at 10 p.m. Eastern

[VaughanDesign]

Originally Posted by a87star

Fields TKO1 Koval

Now that was a great prediction!!! You nailed it!

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by a87star

Fields TKO1 Koval

I saw that and I was like . . . oh boy, better get to the TV, got there just in time to see knockdown No. 1 . . . thanks for the predictions, I would have missed it

[a87star]

Originally Posted by VaughanDesign

Now that was a great prediction!!! You nailed it!

Chris Koval has been in terrible physical shape for his last few fights and combined with the fact Fields throws 90-100 punches a round, it was pretty obvious that fight wouldn't last long.

[a87star]

Vanes Martirosyan looks like the real deal. He throws straight compact punches and landed about eight or nine real hellacious shots to the head and temple of Wallace. The remarkable thing was he remained on his feet until that last big shot, which finally sent him to lala land.

[Mr Big]

Fields wouldn't have lasted a round against PBF.

But seriously, Tye needs to step up and fight someone with a pulse. He has built his lofty record against suspect competition, at best. It's almost as if he knows he can't beat the top level heavyweights, so he has become content feeding on bottom dwellwers. The road to the heavyweight title doesn't go through the likes of Kendrick Releford, Domonic Jenkins, and Chris Koval.

Unless it's the WBE version.

[a87star]

Originally Posted by Mr Big

Fields wouldn't have lasted a round against PBF.

But seriously, Tye needs to step up and fight someone with a pulse. He has built his lofty record against suspect competition, at best. It's almost as if he knows he can't beat the top level heavyweights, so he has become content feeding on bottom dwellwers. The road to the heavyweight title doesn't go through the likes of Kendrick Releford, Domonic Jenkins, and Chris Koval.

Unless it's the WBE version.

Wait a second.....didn't Shannon Briggs pave his way to winning the WBO HW title by facing the likes of Abraham Okine, Dicky Ryan, Chris Koval, and Luciano Zolyone? If you think about it, Tye Fields is doing the same thing and at this rate if he beats two more stiffs, he'll get at least a title shot sometime in 08. Isn't the HW division great?

[Mr Big]

Originally Posted by a87star

Wait a second.....didn't Shannon Briggs pave his way to winning the WBO HW title by facing the likes of Abraham Okine, Dicky Ryan, Chris Koval, and Luciano Zolyone? If you think about it, Tye Fields is doing the same thing and at this rate if he beats two more stiffs, he'll get at least a title shot sometime in 08. Isn't the HW division great?

My bad! What was I thinking? Holyfield took a similar path at a WBO title shot in his latest "comeback." Apparently, beating the likes of Jeremy Bates, Fres Oquendo, Vinny Maddalone, and Lou Savarese earns you an opportunity to compete for this fine organizations' belt. Talk about some standards! Maybe the WBO is REALLY the WBE!

[VaughanDesign]

I like Clottey UD.


I think Alvarez will tire out down the stretch giving Clottey some late rounds to add to his early pile on the scorecards.

[a87star]

Originally Posted by Mr Big

My bad! What was I thinking? Holyfield took a similar path at a WBO title shot in his latest "comeback." Apparently, beating the likes of Jeremy Bates, Fres Oquendo, Vinny Maddalone, and Lou Savarese earns you an opportunity to compete for this fine organizations' belt. Talk about some standards! Maybe the WBO is REALLY the WBE!

I really think Holyfield, Briggs, and Fields should participate in an elimination tournament for a WBE title shot. The winner will then face Frans Botha. At least that will settle some of the controversy in the HW division and legitimize a very prestigious belt.

[VaughanDesign]

I like Cintron for the Silver medal in the Margarito, Cintron, and Clottey sweepstakes.

[Lee]

Originally Posted by a87star

Vanes Martirosyan looks like the real deal. He throws straight compact punches and landed about eight or nine real hellacious shots to the head and temple of Wallace. The remarkable thing was he remained on his feet until that last big shot, which finally sent him to lala land.

I agree, like the announcers mentioned working with Shields seems to have done wonders. He was very poised and didn't go crazy when he had Wallace hurt. The style reminds me a bit of Arguello. If he turns out half that good he will have a solid career.

Fields needs to find someone with a pulse, he is 32, he has the glossy record, now go fight someone. He throws very wide punches and I expect he would get picked apart by about any able boxer. I think Chris Byrd would be a good test for him.

He might as well make the leap, or go join Butterbean as king of the 4 rounders.

[Lee]

Dola -

I am amazed Koval came in at 24-3. I shutter thinking about the skill level of some of the guys on his ledger. Makes me tempted to get back in the Ring at age 44

[a87star]

Originally Posted by Lee

I agree, like the announcers mentioned working with Shields seems to have done wonders. He was very poised and didn't go crazy when he had Wallace hurt. The style reminds me a bit of Arguello. If he turns out half that good he will have a solid career.

Fields needs to find someone with a pulse, he is 32, he has the glossy record, now go fight someone. He throws very wide punches and I expect he would get picked apart by about any able boxer. I think Chris Byrd would be a good test for him.

He might as well make the leap, or go join Butterbean as king of the 4 rounders.

Martirosyan is very poised for a young fighter. Instead of just flailing away and wasting punches.....he picked his shots and set Wallace up for the knockout. If he continues to develop and improve.....he'll definitely be a top 5-10 JMW/MW. Ronnie Shields is the right guy to have in his corner especially now because Martirosyan is making that transition from prospect to bonafide contender.

Fields definitely needs to step up his competition. Jessie Reid said that they were looking for a possible fight with Rahman but supposedly his handlers thought the fight was "too risky". Any HW that has decent to good boxing skills will pick Fields apart and a fight with Cris Byrd would definitely put that theory to the test.

Clottey is definitely a top 5 WW and could probably beat Cintron and Williams. Cotto and PBF are another story. Alvarez does have talent but he can't punch a lick. He'll probably pan out as a gatekeeper/fringe contender.

[Cap]

I don't know these guys from a hole in the ground as I don't get to see these cards. For all I know you guys are making all this stuff up. But, if you aren't, sounds to me like this Fields' brain trust has serious doubts about his ability and they're looking for a big money fight for the kid.

Cap

P.S. I'm thinking of setting up my own alphabet soup organization called the World Boxing Sanctioning Fees Collection Association (WBSFCA). Have to scramble before the field gets too crowded.

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by a87star

Jessie Reid said that they were looking for a possible fight with Rahman but supposedly his handlers thought the fight was "too risky".

Fields' crew thought it was risky or Rahman's?

If it was Fields, what are you even doing in pro boxing? You've been a pro for nine years and have a 40-1 record. If you can't take a fight against a totally-shot has-been, who was more like a never-was except for one lucky punch, top five wastes of heavyweight talents in my life, stiff like that, just take your meaningless record and get out.

And if I'm wrong and Rahman didn't want it, apologies to Fields and camp, allow me to rephrase: Fight someone or get out you stiff.

He'll get creamed when he fights anyone real, then he'll go away. He'll retire with a 46-2 record with 40 KOs and some future generation of the title bout rating team wil look at his record and make him an overall rating of 10 with 13 hit power.

[Mr Big]

Originally Posted by a87star

I really think Holyfield, Briggs, and Fields should participate in an elimination tournament for a WBE title shot. The winner will then face Frans Botha. At least that will settle some of the controversy in the HW division and legitimize a very prestigious belt.

LOL!

[a87star]

Originally Posted by Thunder

Fields' crew thought it was risky or Rahman's?

If it was Fields, what are you even doing in pro boxing? You've been a pro for nine years and have a 40-1 record. If you can't take a fight against a totally-shot has-been, who was more like a never-was except for one lucky punch, top five wastes of heavyweight talents in my life, stiff like that, just take your meaningless record and get out.

And if I'm wrong and Rahman didn't want it, apologies to Fields and camp, allow me to rephrase: Fight someone or get out you stiff.

He'll get creamed when he fights anyone real, then he'll go away. He'll retire with a 46-2 record with 40 KOs and some future generation of the title bout rating team wil look at his record and make him an overall rating of 10 with 13 hit power.

I agree 100% but from what i've read.....Rahman didn't want the fight. Fields needs to fight someone with a pulse in 2008. IMO he's already a citizen of Palookaville.....he throws wide punches and anyone who can counter them will eat him alive.

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by a87star

I agree 100% but from what i've read.....Rahman didn't want the fight. Fields needs to fight someone with a pulse in 2008. IMO he's already a citizen of Palookaville.....he throws wide punches and anyone who can counter them will eat him alive.

Ok, Rahman didn't want Fields . . . makes a little more sense, I was too hard on the big lug then. Still, fight someone!!!!