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[mh2365]

Obviously beating Dominick Guinn should no longer be considered a quality win.

[btown32]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Obviously beating Dominick Guinn should no longer be considered a quality win.

Guinn is done. On the telecast the announcers were saying that he still lives in the past and blames Finkel for robbing him of most of the purse money that he use to fight for. This is just a crock. Learn to keep track of your own money and have some heart. If he is complaining about the money, then how about throwing some punches and show the fire that once made you a promising prospect. There is so much money to be made as a successful American Heavyweight and nobody wants to step up. Guinn comes into every fight in shape and then just stands there round after round without letting his hands go. People are begging for another Tyson and all we can get is a bunch of stiffs.

Briggs was a joke too. I just watched the replay of his first fight over Liakhovich, and he just stands there, straight-legged and throws about 5 punches per round, goes back to his corner and is so out of wind it is just disgusting. Man, his asthma is really terrible. Briggs was in great shape although he looks too muscular and stiff. If he has ashtma, I know that his muscle structure will also take up too much oxygen if he has a big energy output. But he doesnt throw any punches and has no ability to throw sound, biomechanical punches. He throws all arm punches and still has tremendous power. What a waste! If he ever had some flexibility, mobility, conditioning and heart, think of how much money he could have made in the sport!

[Cap]

I was dumbfounded by Guinn's lack of action. What was going through his wee brain? Did he have some fantasy that he was winning? Those two guys make JF Bergeron look like Wladimir Klitschko! Surely those are not examples of the best American heavyweights? And who told the 6' tall Hawkins that 244 lbs. was a good weight for him.

When will Tony Thornton make his move? He is 36 after all.

Cap

[IceTea]

Originally Posted by btown32

Guinn is done. On the telecast the announcers were saying that he still lives in the past and blames Finkel for robbing him of most of the purse money that he use to fight for. This is just a crock. Learn to keep track of your own money and have some heart. If he is complaining about the money, then how about throwing some punches and show the fire that once made you a promising prospect. There is so much money to be made as a successful American Heavyweight and nobody wants to step up. Guinn comes into every fight in shape and then just stands there round after round without letting his hands go. People are begging for another Tyson and all we can get is a bunch of stiffs.

Briggs was a joke too. I just watched the replay of his first fight over Liakhovich, and he just stands there, straight-legged and throws about 5 punches per round, goes back to his corner and is so out of wind it is just disgusting. Man, his asthma is really terrible. Briggs was in great shape although he looks too muscular and stiff. If he has ashtma, I know that his muscle structure will also take up too much oxygen if he has a big energy output. But he doesnt throw any punches and has no ability to throw sound, biomechanical punches. He throws all arm punches and still has tremendous power. What a waste! If he ever had some flexibility, mobility, conditioning and heart, think of how much money he could have made in the sport!

* Briggs was in cosmetic shape but not fight shape. Tyson was guilty of this after his prison stay. Liahovich was afraid of him I think.

[a87star]

Originally Posted by Cap

When will Tony Thornton make his move? He is 36 after all.

You mean Tony Thompson. He won his WBO eliminator this past summer against Luan Krasniqui and is currently waiting to face the Wlad/Ibragimov winner. Considering the fact that whoever wins that unification fight will have to face the Povetkin/Chambers winner, Thompson could be waiting for a while.

Boxing politics has basically forced him to be a spectator.

[Cap]

Originally Posted by a87star

You mean Tony Thompson. He won his WBO eliminator this past summer against Luan Krasniqui and is currently waiting to face the Wlad/Ibragimov winner. Considering the fact that whoever wins that unification fight will have to face the Povetkin/Chambers winner, Thompson could be waiting for a while.

Boxing politics has basically forced him to be a spectator.

Yeah, I meant Thompson. No idea where that Thornton came from unless I was thinking of Sean Thornton from The Quiet Man.

Hard to believe that, considering the fact he's one of the few decent American heavies around, he'd have a hard time getting a title shot. Besides, there must be an alphabet soup title laying around somewhere.

By the way, hate to point this out, Mikey, but you shoulda put some warning on your post. I hadn't seen the fight yet.

Cap

[mh2365]

Yeah my bad .... sorry Cap ... I'm usually the one yelling at people for it.

[a87star]

Originally Posted by Cap

Yeah, I meant Thompson. No idea where that Thornton came from unless I was thinking of Sean Thornton from The Quiet Man.

Hard to believe that, considering the fact he's one of the few decent American heavies around, he'd have a hard time getting a title shot. Besides, there must be an alphabet soup title laying around somewhere.

By the way, hate to point this out, Mikey, but you shoulda put some warning on your post. I hadn't seen the fight yet.

Cap

Thompson is just a victim of the politics that seems to control boxing nowadays. It would be a shame to see him have to wait a year to get his title shot. Granted he probably will not beat Wlad.....but it's only fair to see him get his opportunity and the fact he's not a household name is going to hurt him as well.