Ring Magaine 100 best punchers of all-time.

IceTea · 01-06-2008, 10:47 PM

magazine published a list of 100 greatest punchers of all time in boxing, as voted by the magazine's writers. Various criteria were used for the voting: what percentage of fights by each boxer resulted as knockout wins, how many knockouts and knockout streaks each boxer had, what important rivals he knocked out during his career and who he couldn't knock out.

hamed · 01-06-2008, 11:32 PM

I like the new avatar IT - I think that's Baby Doll.

I read she just fought MMA because she couldn't get any boxing fights.

IceTea · 01-07-2008, 12:52 AM

She won her first MMA fight, bout, barroom brawl or what ever you want to call it. I pretty much place that in the same waste basket as the WWE.

It is tough for some pro boxers to get bouts but it is more difficult for elite amateurs to get them.

MJ

hamed · 01-07-2008, 01:49 PM

^ LOL, that's true.

Maybe Floyd can claim the same reason as to why he's considering MMA?

Mad Bomber · 01-07-2008, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceTea

She won her first MMA fight, bout, barroom brawl or what ever you want to call it. I pretty much place that in the same waste basket as the WWE.

It is tough for some pro boxers to get bouts but it is more difficult for elite amateurs to get them.

MJ

Great Answer

Greg

meade95 · 01-07-2008, 09:56 PM

Fairly good list - I'd add a few names...and drop a couple.....but on the whole it is pretty good -

I'd also move a WW version Thomas Hearn's up close to the Top 10 -

aaaaaaaaa · 01-08-2008, 11:34 AM

error from me.

Mr Big · 01-08-2008, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceTea

It is tough for some pro boxers to get bouts but it is more difficult for elite amateurs to get them.

MJ

It seems as if women's boxing, in general, suffers from a general lack of interest; both from the public, and the potential participants. A quick glance at boxrec.com tells the story. Vonda Ward is #1 at heavyweight, among 13 active fighters in that division. At cruiser, there is Carlette Ewell, best among 5 in that category. Light-heavyweight presents a similar picture. And Laila Ali is queen over 9 other ladies at SMW. Tough to make big money fights when stars and recognizable names are so few and far between.

Number of participants is generally better in the lower weight classes, but I can still remember when I was involved with Hollie Dunaway, how that she was world champion over around 56 other girls. Many were of the 0-1 variety, with the "average" being around 3-3. To be perfectly honest, it was my personal involvement with her that helped generate my interest in what the fairer sex had to offer in the pugilistic realm.

Until the public as a whole embraces women's boxing, the money and big match-ups just aren't going to be there like it is for their male counterparts; especially in the United States. Right now, Europe is the mecca of women's boxing, and is likely to remain so, due largely to the fact that the fan base seems to recognize the value of what the ladies bring to the sport. Many of the top names are beautiful AND they can fight. And let's be honest guys, what's sexier than a hot chick than can also kick some A$$?

I can't think of anything right off hand...

mh2365 · 01-08-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Big

And let's be honest guys, what's sexier than a hot chick than can also kick some A$$?

I can't think of anything right off hand...

I'm not a fan .. I like real girly girls

IceTea · 01-08-2008, 06:27 PM

I had a female amateur ask me the other day what the #1 thing she needs to do to become a professional. I told her to learn German. That is where the $ is in women's boxing. I chat with a few professional females in this country and they say the same thing....but it is getting better. Elite female professionals have problems finding fights. I think it is due to the fact that only a handful in each weight class have world class ability, or any ability at all, and most are afraid to fight them and each other.

If you look at the amateurs, this won't be a problem for long. Most weight classes with the possible exception of the top two or three with be 20 deep withing five years with 2/3 of them being from outside the USA. I pretty much pay more attention to the female ranks than the male ranks at this point. This has only changed in the past 9 months since I started training female amateurs.

MJ

Antonin · 01-08-2008, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Big

Many of the top names are beautiful AND they can fight. And let's be honest guys, what's sexier than a hot chick than can also kick some A$$?

I can't think of anything right off hand...

I like athletic women, but female fighters are a real turn-off.

Cap · 01-08-2008, 09:01 PM

When I tape a fight card, if there's a girl fight on I fast forward through it. I just can't stomach watching two ladies try to knock each other's block off.

Cap

bear · 01-08-2008, 10:09 PM

Gee, I've seven of these guys on my UTBA roster.

IceTea · 01-08-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bear

Gee, I've seven of these guys on my UTBA roster.

Wow, maybe some of them get hit too much?

mh2365 · 01-08-2008, 11:05 PM

Just got done watching American Pie's Beta House ... so while Mr. Big really digged the muscle bound chick who carried the little geek boy in the race, I loved all the other girly girls

No offense ... I made fun of Sal for the same reason ... there for a stretch all the girls he posted looked like men .....

oops no offense Sal ...

damn gotta stop drinking and posting

Mr Big · 01-09-2008, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

Just got done watching American Pie's Beta House ... so while Mr. Big really digged the muscle bound chick who carried the little geek boy in the race, I loved all the other girly girls

Don't get me wrong guys, I like girly girls too. However, my motto is, "don't knock it till ya try it." Not one to kiss and tell, but let's just say that the muscle chicks I've dated have been really awesome! Maybe it's because they THINK like men, and know what makes us happy! LOL!

Alright, back to (male) boxing. How 'bout them Klitschkos?

rdklein · 01-09-2008, 07:58 AM

No Ali?

mh2365 · 01-09-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rdklein

No Ali?

Why would Ali be on a hardest punchers list?

mh2365 · 01-09-2008, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Big

Don't get me wrong guys, I like girly girls too. However, my motto is, "don't knock it till ya try it." Not one to kiss and tell, but let's just say that the muscle chicks I've dated have been really awesome! Maybe it's because they THINK like men, and know what makes us happy! LOL!

Alright, back to (male) boxing. How 'bout them Klitschkos?

I'll leave that one alone LOL ... you know I'm just ribbing you right?

About the Klitchko's obviously this list left out current fighters because if you are going to take % of fights that resulted in KO wins ... it'd be tough to leave them out.

Cap · 01-09-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

I'll leave that one alone LOL ... you know I'm just ribbing you right?

About the Klitchko's obviously this list left out current fighters because if you are going to take % of fights that resulted in KO wins ... it'd be tough to leave them out.

Aw, go on widya! Who'd dose nancies ever knock out?

(Just pokin' da bear, Mikey!

)

Cap

01-06-2008, 10:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Utica, NY Posts: 6,913	Ring Magaine 100 best punchers of all-time. magazine published a list of 100 greatest punchers of all time in boxing, as voted by the magazine's writers. Various criteria were used for the voting: what percentage of fights by each boxer resulted as knockout wins, how many knockouts and knockout streaks each boxer had, what important rivals he knocked out during his career and who he couldn't knock out. Joe Louis Sam Langford Jimmy Wilde Archie Moore Sandy Saddler Stanley Ketchel Jack Dempsey Bob Fitzsimmons George Foreman Earnie Shavers Sugar Ray Robinson Ruben Olivares Wilfredo Gómez Rocky Marciano Sonny Liston Mike Tyson Bob Foster Thomas Hearns Khaosai Galaxy Alexis Arguello Carlos Zarate Max Baer Rocky Graziano Matthew Saad Muhammad Julian Jackson Danny Lopez Gerald McClellan Roberto Duran Rodrigo Valdez Félix Trinidad Jose Cuevas Jim Jeffries Lennox Lewis Bennie Briscoe Marvin Hagler Edwin Rosario Tommy Ryan John Mugabi Joe Frazier Carlos Monzon Tony Zale Michael Spinks Joe Gans Elmer Ray George Godfrey Naseem Hamed Alfonso Zamora David Tua Cleveland Williams Julio César Chávez Tiger Jack Fox Joe Walcott Gerry Cooney Al Bummy Davis Max Schmeling Florentino Fernandez Henry Armstrong Bob Satterfield Al Hostak Jesus Pimentel Eugene Hart Lew Jenkins Harry Wills Tom Sharkey Terry McGovern Jersey Joe Walcott Kostya Tszyu Leotis Martin Buddy Baer Donovan Ruddock Jose Luis Ramirez Tommy Gómez Jose Napoles Kid McCoy Antonio Esparragoza Ricardo Moreno Evander Holyfield Ike Williams Luis Firpo Ricardo Lopez Humberto Gonzalez Bobby Chacon Jock McAvoy Eduardo Lause Eder Jofre Charley Burley Mike McCallum Salvador Sánchez Roy Jones Jr. Rodolfo Gato Gonzalez Nigel Benn Irish Bob Murphy Paul Berlenbach Battling Torres Chalky Wright George Chaney Andy Ganigan Fred Fulton Ingemar Johansson Charley White __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Understanding Title Bout Boxing Ratings Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Philly Boxing History

01-07-2008, 12:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Utica, NY Posts: 6,913	She won her first MMA fight, bout, barroom brawl or what ever you want to call it. I pretty much place that in the same waste basket as the WWE. It is tough for some pro boxers to get bouts but it is more difficult for elite amateurs to get them. MJ __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Understanding Title Bout Boxing Ratings Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Philly Boxing History Last edited by IceTea : 01-07-2008 at 12:53 AM.

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aaaaaaaaa All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 955	error from me. Last edited by aaaaaaaaa : 01-08-2008 at 11:36 AM.

01-08-2008, 06:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Utica, NY Posts: 6,913	I had a female amateur ask me the other day what the #1 thing she needs to do to become a professional. I told her to learn German. That is where the $ is in women's boxing. I chat with a few professional females in this country and they say the same thing....but it is getting better. Elite female professionals have problems finding fights. I think it is due to the fact that only a handful in each weight class have world class ability, or any ability at all, and most are afraid to fight them and each other. If you look at the amateurs, this won't be a problem for long. Most weight classes with the possible exception of the top two or three with be 20 deep withing five years with 2/3 of them being from outside the USA. I pretty much pay more attention to the female ranks than the male ranks at this point. This has only changed in the past 9 months since I started training female amateurs. MJ __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Understanding Title Bout Boxing Ratings Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Philly Boxing History Last edited by IceTea : 01-08-2008 at 06:29 PM.

01-08-2008, 09:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 4,004	When I tape a fight card, if there's a girl fight on I fast forward through it. I just can't stomach watching two ladies try to knock each other's block off. Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

01-06-2008, 11:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
hamed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,073	I like the new avatar IT - I think that's Baby Doll. I read she just fought MMA because she couldn't get any boxing fights.

01-07-2008, 01:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
hamed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,073	^ LOL, that's true. Maybe Floyd can claim the same reason as to why he's considering MMA?

01-07-2008, 09:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
meade95 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,795	Fairly good list - I'd add a few names...and drop a couple.....but on the whole it is pretty good - I'd also move a WW version Thomas Hearn's up close to the Top 10 -

01-08-2008, 10:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,396	Gee, I've seven of these guys on my UTBA roster. __________________ Bear's Unstable UTBA Season Four Gold Conference Central Division Champion First UTBA expansion franchise to win a conference divisional title

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mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Just got done watching American Pie's Beta House ... so while Mr. Big really digged the muscle bound chick who carried the little geek boy in the race, I loved all the other girly girls No offense ... I made fun of Sal for the same reason ... there for a stretch all the girls he posted looked like men ..... oops no offense Sal ... damn gotta stop drinking and posting

01-09-2008, 07:58 AM	#17 (permalink)
rdklein All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The other side. Posts: 756	No Ali?

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