sports sim games

Owen · 06-11-2008, 11:41 AM

I've been looking for a good college or pro football sim. Can anyone recommend one?

mh2365 · 06-11-2008, 12:43 PM

Bowl Bound College football is by far the best football text sim out right now. But there is nothing wrong with the FOF series either.

hamed · 06-11-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

Bowl Bound College football is by far the best football text sim out right now. But there is nothing wrong with the FOF series either.

Mike, does Bowl Bound allow you to quick sim games like Lance Haffner's?

I've read people say Second & Ten by Roogames was good, I don't have that one yet.

IceTea · 06-11-2008, 03:04 PM

action pc football from dksports

Bogie · 06-11-2008, 04:14 PM

Strat-o-matic has great games. football, pro basketball, and ML baseball, pro hockey(all most forgot hockey).

gocubsgo · 06-11-2008, 05:13 PM

Owen that would depend on what you are looking for in either game. Do you want a stat based quick sim type of game or do you want something a bit more immersive. FOF is a great game that allows you to be the GM and coach if you want to be. You will do everything from call plays to run your draft war room and negotiate contracts. Great game but very little graphical appeal (i kinda like this). On the college sports side their is TCY or Bowl Bound. TCY is by the same maker as FOF but i was never really able to get into it. Bowl Bound is deep and good graphically (no player animations though). You can call plays and will go on the recruiting trail each year.

Second and Ten is great for a historical sim whether you like the college or pro side. From what i remember the pro game had quite a bit more past seasons.

Hope that helps feel free to fire away with questions.

mh2365 · 06-11-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hamed

Mike, does Bowl Bound allow you to quick sim games like Lance Haffner's?

I've read people say Second & Ten by Roogames was good, I don't have that one yet.

Yeah it doesn't take longer than a minute or so to sim a week ...

hamed · 06-12-2008, 07:59 AM

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Yeah it doesn't take longer than a minute or so to sim a week ...

OK thanks, I'll check that out. I recall playing a SI board/dice game with my brother called Bowl Bound growing up - I wonder if this is the computer version.

nelsth · 06-12-2008, 02:44 PM

Strat-O-Matic makes a pro and college football game that may satisfy your needs. While it does not match Madden's graphics (who does?) it is a good combination of text and an interactive gridiron screen that shows the teams in O's and triangles with player names and team colors. Teams are based on yearly statistics. You can play a season or make your own. You can also play individual game matchups. To sim a season would take a few minutes depending on the speed of your computer. If you play a pro season, you can create a playoff league to play that post-season's teams. The college game actually will rank teams BCS style during the during the season.

meade95 · 06-12-2008, 03:04 PM

Lance Haffner is still putting out some games - Isn't he?

bigMatt · 06-12-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nelsth

Strat-O-Matic makes a pro and college football game that may satisfy your needs. While it does not match Madden's graphics (who does?) it is a good combination of text and an interactive gridiron screen that shows the teams in O's and triangles with player names and team colors. Teams are based on yearly statistics. You can play a season or make your own. You can also play individual game matchups. To sim a season would take a few minutes depending on the speed of your computer. If you play a pro season, you can create a playoff league to play that post-season's teams. The college game actually will rank teams BCS style during the during the season.

Graphics are inferior, but, unlike Madden, it is a true simulation, meaning your results will be loosely comparable to the actual player offensive and defensive performances.

The table game version of SOM football is my favorite football sim by far. But it does take a couple of hours to play. The computer game is much more streamlined, as you'd expect.

hamed · 06-12-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by meade95

Lance Haffner is still putting out some games - Isn't he?

I don't think he is now but fans of the game are putting out seasons.

mh2365 · 06-12-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hamed

OK thanks, I'll check that out. I recall playing a SI board/dice game with my brother called Bowl Bound growing up - I wonder if this is the computer version.

I doubt it has anything to do with that.

meade95 · 06-12-2008, 03:44 PM

Best Pro Football sim ever made was (and still is, IMO) Football Pro (by Sierra) Either Pro 96,97 or 98 - (99 was the last version ever made...and had many flaws......97 or 98 are the best).

It had decent graphics......but came with a very dynamic AI (in which after years of play the Computer AI could still put up a great game.....and would actually "adjust" to your gameplay style)......

It had a game/play editor that was top-notch as well -

nelsth · 06-12-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bigMatt

Graphics are inferior, but, unlike Madden, it is a true simulation, meaning your results will be loosely comparable to the actual player offensive and defensive performances.

The table game version of SOM football is my favorite football sim by far. But it does take a couple of hours to play. The computer game is much more streamlined, as you'd expect.

Many Strat players, including myself, use the cards in tandem with the game. The game itself can be set up to show dice rolls or have your manual dice rolls recorded. The college game only has the 2004, 2005, and 2006 seasons available (2007 comes out this summer), but there are over 200 teams each season from Division I-A and I-AA.

hamed · 06-12-2008, 03:53 PM

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I doubt it has anything to do with that.

Well if I get that game, I'm going to pretend it does.

gocubsgo · 06-12-2008, 04:05 PM

I will second Meade on Football Pro. That game was light years ahead of its time on many levels.

Bowl Bound is not tied to the Avalon Hill game which by the way was awesome. I really loved the old Bowl Bound but with the computer version you will not get the historical replay is that is what you are looking for.

mh2365 · 06-12-2008, 04:28 PM

Yeah Football Pro rocked

mh2365 · 06-12-2008, 04:30 PM

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Well if I get that game, I'm going to pretend it does.

If you get it, I'm in a great Div 1AA league.

vistaman44 · 06-13-2008, 02:30 PM

... want to know is, who is the woman in hamed's avatar?

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nelsth Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 35	Strat-O-Matic makes a pro and college football game that may satisfy your needs. While it does not match Madden's graphics (who does?) it is a good combination of text and an interactive gridiron screen that shows the teams in O's and triangles with player names and team colors. Teams are based on yearly statistics. You can play a season or make your own. You can also play individual game matchups. To sim a season would take a few minutes depending on the speed of your computer. If you play a pro season, you can create a playoff league to play that post-season's teams. The college game actually will rank teams BCS style during the during the season. __________________ A rooster crows only when it sees the light. Put him in the dark and he'll never crow. I have seen the light and I'm crowing. - Muhammad Ali

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meade95 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,730	Best Pro Football sim ever made was (and still is, IMO) Football Pro (by Sierra) Either Pro 96,97 or 98 - (99 was the last version ever made...and had many flaws......97 or 98 are the best). It had decent graphics......but came with a very dynamic AI (in which after years of play the Computer AI could still put up a great game.....and would actually "adjust" to your gameplay style)...... It had a game/play editor that was top-notch as well - Last edited by meade95 : 06-12-2008 at 03:45 PM.

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gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,295	Owen that would depend on what you are looking for in either game. Do you want a stat based quick sim type of game or do you want something a bit more immersive. FOF is a great game that allows you to be the GM and coach if you want to be. You will do everything from call plays to run your draft war room and negotiate contracts. Great game but very little graphical appeal (i kinda like this). On the college sports side their is TCY or Bowl Bound. TCY is by the same maker as FOF but i was never really able to get into it. Bowl Bound is deep and good graphically (no player animations though). You can call plays and will go on the recruiting trail each year. Second and Ten is great for a historical sim whether you like the college or pro side. From what i remember the pro game had quite a bit more past seasons. Hope that helps feel free to fire away with questions.

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meade95 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,730	Lance Haffner is still putting out some games - Isn't he?

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gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,295	I will second Meade on Football Pro. That game was light years ahead of its time on many levels. Bowl Bound is not tied to the Avalon Hill game which by the way was awesome. I really loved the old Bowl Bound but with the computer version you will not get the historical replay is that is what you are looking for.

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