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Old 06-15-2008, 01:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Big LW fights coming up....(Diaz Vs Katsidis)

I've seen it looks like Juan Diaz Vs Katsidis is on for later this year - This is almost a certain FOY candidate......Surprised both these guys would take this fight...with no title at stake.

Both being near the top of the LW division. The winner is a must for a shot at Campbell or Casamayor -

Plus we have Casamayor likely fighting JMM to...... Which leaves Campbell as the odd man out.... But there is even talk of him fighting Guzman.....
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Old 06-15-2008, 01:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I thought I read that Casamayor and Juan Diaz was signed and sealed.

I think Katsidis takes Juan Diaz ... I really hate both Casamayor and JMM so I have no idea who to root against in that fight.

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Old 06-15-2008, 02:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It's amazing how Nate Campbell gets no respect. He just worked over Juan Diaz and you figure these so called other LW's would want a shot at him.

Guzman is another guy that gets very little fanfare. He might be overrated in the power department but he's a heck of a fighter.
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Old 06-15-2008, 03:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've seen it looks like Juan Diaz Vs Katsidis is on for later this year - This is almost a certain FOY candidate......Surprised both these guys would take this fight...with no title at stake.

Both being near the top of the LW division. The winner is a must for a shot at Campbell or Casamayor -

Plus we have Casamayor likely fighting JMM to...... Which leaves Campbell as the odd man out.... But there is even talk of him fighting Guzman.....
Agree, those 2 should fight for some sort of title. I think I read Guzman & Nate were already talking trash to each other.

BTW meade, did you ever locate your 17-0 Lopez ratings?
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Old 06-15-2008, 08:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Nate is calling out Casamayor but Joel is pulling the ole "I dominated him once, why fight him again" spiel
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Old 06-15-2008, 08:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Nate is calling out Casamayor but Joel is pulling the ole "I dominated him once, why fight him again" spiel
Joel will never fight anyone tough unless he absolutely is put in a position where there is no choice. That's the reason he'll never be truly considered a top p4p fighter or a HOF.

That's pretty much the story of Casamayor's career.
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:07 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Joel will never fight anyone tough unless he absolutely is put in a position where there is no choice. That's the reason he'll never be truly considered a top p4p fighter or a HOF.

That's pretty much the story of Casamayor's career.
This really isn't all that accurate....or fair....

Casamayor (who I'm not a huge fan of ...but respect in the ring)..

Has fought...

A prime Diego Corrales (three times!) Each being full wars...

An undefeated Michael Katsidis....

An undefeated Nate Campbell

An undefeated Acelino Freitas (and was completely jobbed in the decision!)

A tough undefeated Kwon Baek (for the WBA title)

Tough Robert Garcia....

And there are several others that can be added to this list.

His list clearly outweighs Nate Campbell or Juan Diaz in all reality....

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Old 06-15-2008, 10:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Agree, those 2 should fight for some sort of title. I think I read Guzman & Nate were already talking trash to each other.

BTW meade, did you ever locate your 17-0 Lopez ratings?
Sorry not yet - I'm getting my new rig (computer) all set up - Mainly for War-Gamming Sims - TBCB is on my mothballed computer (at the moment) waiting for the next patch to come out (before I install it over on my new rig).

Really wish I would have never upgraded (and paid) for 2.5 - (1.9) was much superior in terms of accuracy of resluts (when simmed) IMO - The corner AI strategy is just that flawed in 2.5......
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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OK thanks meade. I have a new one too (relatively) as of December - a Dell.

You mentioned wargaming. Are you aware of any wargame with up to date, modern armies? I always thought having a war game similar to TB would be interesting. Let the game sim a battle if 2 modern armies ever fought & I was just curious if any such game/sim was currently on the market?
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This really isn't all that accurate....or fair....

Casamayor (who I'm not a huge fan of ...but respect in the ring)..

Has fought...

A prime Diego Corrales (three times!) Each being full wars...

An undefeated Michael Katsidis....

An undefeated Nate Campbell

An undefeated Acelino Freitas (and was completely jobbed in the decision!)

A tough undefeated Kwon Baek (for the WBA title)

Tough Robert Garcia....

And there are several others that can be added to this list.

His list clearly outweighs Nate Campbell or Juan Diaz in all reality....
That may be true but let me ask you this.........

If he was such a great fighter/champion........why didn't he fight any of the Diaz's (when they were all champs)? What about taking a rematch with Santa Cruz, Katsidis, or Campbell? Guess it wasn't in his best interest since he beat them so convincingly the first time

IMO........he made his career on his fights with Casamayor and Freitas. I'm not saying he isn't a good fighter........just not an ATG.

Your lucky i'm not including the stinkers against Kid Diamond and Jose Luis Castillo (two guys he could have easily beaten with his skills).
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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OK thanks meade. I have a new one too (relatively) as of December - a Dell.

You mentioned wargaming. Are you aware of any wargame with up to date, modern armies? I always thought having a war game similar to TB would be interesting. Let the game sim a battle if 2 modern armies ever fought & I was just curious if any such game/sim was currently on the market?
A few modern wargames -

CMSF is a great game - (patched to 1.8) - Takes the role of a Stryker US Brigade - They have a modern day Marine module that is about to come out as well - Both taking place in a war Vs Syria - (many mods put out as well).

Combat Mission: Shock Force

Of course HPS Sim's have a great number (and later this year, they will be putting out a modern-day Squad Battles game/sim). HPS is more likely in the lines of what you are talking about - They have about 7 or 8 different game lines - With Squad Battles and POA 2 being very well done -

Welcome to HPS Simulations, the Wargamer's True Ally


BlackFoot Studios is putting out an ultra-realistic-FPS late this year (early 09) - This game will be absolutely fantastic - A very tactical (real based) FPS - Not the run and gun, shoot'em ups that fill the market today - (back to the days of the original R6 / RS) - Only with today's specs and grahpics, etc, etc - This game will be something else -

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Go to the "Forums" - Ground Branch is the name -

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Old 06-16-2008, 03:29 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I can't stand Casamayor but I gotta side with Meade on this one, he has fought a good schedule of fighters.
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Old 06-16-2008, 10:41 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info meade, wow I asked the right guy - I'll check those out!
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:03 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I can't stand Casamayor but I gotta side with Meade on this one, he has fought a good schedule of fighters.
I'm not saying Casamayor doesn't have a good resume......but it could be better. Maybe i'm being too critical but it's obvious there are fights he could have taken recently that would have made him stand out even more.
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Old 06-16-2008, 12:14 PM   #15 (permalink)
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He should have had a rematch with Santa Cruz because he lost that fight in a rout. He made up for it with that fight with Katsidis ... but in my world he isn't any kind of champion until he refights Santa Cruz. He can beat every LW champion out there right now and hold all the alphabet titles and he isn't the champ IMO until he fights Santa Cruz again.

FWIW I had the Santa Cruz fight 118-109 for Santa Cruz.
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I don't think he'll ever rematch Santa Cruz. Casamayor may be the "Ring Champion" but it's debatable if he is the very best at LW.

Granted he made up for that by KO'ing Katsidis.....but it was close fight and you can make a case for a rematch there as well.
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I don't think he'll ever rematch Santa Cruz. Casamayor may be the "Ring Champion" but it's debatable if he is the very best at LW.

Granted he made up for that by KO'ing Katsidis.....but it was close fight and you can make a case for a rematch there as well.
Oh.....I'd agree a rematch with Katsidis should be a must - It was a back and forth war -

That Katsidis and Juan Diaz have chose to fight each other with no belt at stake is something else - Give major credit to both guys -
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Yeah I agree ... I do wonder why Casamayor pulled out of the Diaz fight ... I would assume that JMM brings more money and less of a risk though.
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Yeah I agree ... I do wonder why Casamayor pulled out of the Diaz fight ... I would assume that JMM brings more money and less of a risk though.
Not sure either? Though I think JMM will Dec Casamayor - Will be an interesting fight style wise (as both guys like to counter).
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