Auto Scheduler Ideas

gocubsgo · 06-16-2008, 04:05 PM

Okay vets primarily Mike and Conn Chris specifically how are you using the new scheduler options to help automate your uni. I would like to move my uni along a bit faster but find myself going back to my spreadsheet and randomly determining if guys fight this month or not base on when they last fight. I was wondering if you guys might elaborate a bit on what has changed for you with the new scheduler. Thanks in advance.

CONN CHRIS · 06-16-2008, 04:33 PM

Hey Roy:

I have been using the days inactive pretty effectively. I am trying to hold everyone to no more than three fights per year so I use 120 days and never get someone with four fights unless I override.

I know that the days inactive has trouble when you set it to less than 60 days because of over-lapping months or something but my experience has been that 60+ days works great.

Christopher

gocubsgo · 06-16-2008, 04:45 PM

Okay so here is what i have.

I like to get my rookies (10 fights or less) fighting each month or at worst every other month. The fighters that are past the 10 fights i would like to try and get them 3-5 fights per year with anyone that is a major regional or world title holder fighting less really only as title defenses. My issue is some regions have better competition and i have nowhere near the number of fighters in my uni that you have. At what point do i have guys fight TCs rather than fighting the better fighters within their region. I would hate to have for example Tim Witherspoon fighting Ken Norton, and two other higher ranked fighter in a year because it could hurt his ranking but then again fighting TCs most of the time is a waste too. Just having a hard time with the total randomness that thing could get to. I guess this is kind of a catch 22.

mh2365 · 06-16-2008, 07:15 PM

Using the autoscheduler has sped up my uni but I still determine who fights that month by spreadsheet ... I use the autoscheduler to determine who they fight now.

gocubsgo · 06-17-2008, 03:29 PM

Chris- so you do not penalize a fighter if in his previou fight he suffered a KO or TKO as far as needing to take time off?

Mike - About how many fighters do you have in your current database? So for each fighter you go thru and generate the random numbers to determine if a guy fights?

gocubsgo · 06-17-2008, 03:32 PM

Chris do you still adhere to this breakout or has that changed?

a. I want established (ranked) fighters to have tune-up fights within their geographical regions.
--b. I want new fighters (less than 10 bouts) to face easy opponents.
--c. I want the higher ranked established fighters to fight on average 6 times per year. (This is a loose target, I have liked the system I use to-date because it seems to have most fighters in action about 6 times each year with plenty of outliers that fight twice or even eleven times.)
--d. I do not care if stiff and other professional opponents fight every month or even twice per month. They are the guys doing this to keep virtual bread on the table.

CONN CHRIS · 06-17-2008, 03:43 PM

Hi Roy:

I do not use that system at all any longer because I stepped back to 1800 and there are only 130 fighters at this point.

However, you can still use that system in TBCB2.5:

If you want young fighters to only have safe bouts their first 10 times in the ring, just run your rookie scheduling separate from the regular scheduling. Set corner A to 10 fights or less and set corner B to highest rating value of 1 or 0. Add in the days inactive only on the corner A side to suit your plans and it should be just fine.

If you don't have enough cans in a given region and division you can create the desired number in a minute or so now.

Christopher

Edit: No, I do not bother with making stoppage loss victims take extra time off. In the old universe it would have been too time-consuming and in the new one, they only fight a few times per year anyway.

gocubsgo · 06-17-2008, 04:01 PM

Thanks Chris. I decided that the more automated i can make my scheduling the more i will be able to get into it. When i start getting into my spreadsheet stuff i tend to get wrapped up in it and the next thing i know an hour has flown by.

mh2365 · 06-17-2008, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gocubsgo

Chris- so you do not penalize a fighter if in his previou fight he suffered a KO or TKO as far as needing to take time off?

Mike - About how many fighters do you have in your current database? So for each fighter you go thru and generate the random numbers to determine if a guy fights?

I would say offhand that I have close to 1000 and yes I generate a random number for each fighter each month.

After I see who fights, then I see if the pre,post, end guys fight a TC or not. Then I pair up the title fights and hand hold the undefeated guys that are left. Everyone else is auto scheduled. One the scheduler decides who fights each other I pull out the notables (8 and above) for the fight cards and run the rest.

06-16-2008, 04:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,300	Auto Scheduler Ideas Okay vets primarily Mike and Conn Chris specifically how are you using the new scheduler options to help automate your uni. I would like to move my uni along a bit faster but find myself going back to my spreadsheet and randomly determining if guys fight this month or not base on when they last fight. I was wondering if you guys might elaborate a bit on what has changed for you with the new scheduler. Thanks in advance.

06-16-2008, 04:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
CONN CHRIS Moderator* Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 21,208	Hey Roy: I have been using the days inactive pretty effectively. I am trying to hold everyone to no more than three fights per year so I use 120 days and never get someone with four fights unless I override. I know that the days inactive has trouble when you set it to less than 60 days because of over-lapping months or something but my experience has been that 60+ days works great. Christopher __________________ REC World Prizefighter Rankings

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mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,935	Using the autoscheduler has sped up my uni but I still determine who fights that month by spreadsheet ... I use the autoscheduler to determine who they fight now. __________________ Management Image Recruiters UTBA II Villebillies Louisville Boxing Association

06-17-2008, 03:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
CONN CHRIS Moderator* Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 21,208	Hi Roy: I do not use that system at all any longer because I stepped back to 1800 and there are only 130 fighters at this point. However, you can still use that system in TBCB2.5: If you want young fighters to only have safe bouts their first 10 times in the ring, just run your rookie scheduling separate from the regular scheduling. Set corner A to 10 fights or less and set corner B to highest rating value of 1 or 0. Add in the days inactive only on the corner A side to suit your plans and it should be just fine. If you don't have enough cans in a given region and division you can create the desired number in a minute or so now. Christopher Edit: No, I do not bother with making stoppage loss victims take extra time off. In the old universe it would have been too time-consuming and in the new one, they only fight a few times per year anyway. __________________ REC World Prizefighter Rankings Last edited by CONN CHRIS : 06-17-2008 at 03:45 PM.

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06-16-2008, 04:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,300	Okay so here is what i have. I like to get my rookies (10 fights or less) fighting each month or at worst every other month. The fighters that are past the 10 fights i would like to try and get them 3-5 fights per year with anyone that is a major regional or world title holder fighting less really only as title defenses. My issue is some regions have better competition and i have nowhere near the number of fighters in my uni that you have. At what point do i have guys fight TCs rather than fighting the better fighters within their region. I would hate to have for example Tim Witherspoon fighting Ken Norton, and two other higher ranked fighter in a year because it could hurt his ranking but then again fighting TCs most of the time is a waste too. Just having a hard time with the total randomness that thing could get to. I guess this is kind of a catch 22.

06-17-2008, 03:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,300	Chris- so you do not penalize a fighter if in his previou fight he suffered a KO or TKO as far as needing to take time off? Mike - About how many fighters do you have in your current database? So for each fighter you go thru and generate the random numbers to determine if a guy fights?

06-17-2008, 03:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,300	Chris do you still adhere to this breakout or has that changed? a. I want established (ranked) fighters to have tune-up fights within their geographical regions. --b. I want new fighters (less than 10 bouts) to face easy opponents. --c. I want the higher ranked established fighters to fight on average 6 times per year. (This is a loose target, I have liked the system I use to-date because it seems to have most fighters in action about 6 times each year with plenty of outliers that fight twice or even eleven times.) --d. I do not care if stiff and other professional opponents fight every month or even twice per month. They are the guys doing this to keep virtual bread on the table.

06-17-2008, 04:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,300	Thanks Chris. I decided that the more automated i can make my scheduling the more i will be able to get into it. When i start getting into my spreadsheet stuff i tend to get wrapped up in it and the next thing i know an hour has flown by.