[Cap]

What you guys are talking about is an initial release of a limited amount of fighters when the game comes out and a periodic release of new fighters by a select group of editors.

I've rerated a lot of the old time fighters I was familiar with, but I would not release mine for the same reason as Danny. They wouldn't relate to many of the fighters rerated by others. You'd need a core group of fighters to act as a control, or something against which all others are rated, and you'd need everyone to agree on how that core group is rated.

By the way, is it true that OOTP has no connection of any kind to Title Bout? That it is Andreas' personal project and his forum space here is almost on loan from OOTP? No Andreas no Forum? Just curious.

Cap

[Jersey-Jim]

Originally Posted by Cap

What you guys are talking about is an initial release of a limited amount of fighters when the game comes out and a periodic release of new fighters by a select group of editors.

I've rerated a lot of the old time fighters I was familiar with, but I would not release mine for the same reason as Danny. They wouldn't relate to many of the fighters rerated by others. You'd need a core group of fighters to act as a control, or something against which all others are rated, and you'd need everyone to agree on how that core group is rated.

By the way, is it true that OOTP has no connection of any kind to Title Bout? That it is Andreas' personal project and his forum space here is almost on loan from OOTP? No Andreas no Forum? Just curious.

Cap

I believe you're 100% right. They're like neighbors living on the same street next to one another. One helps the other out.

[Jersey-Jim]

Originally Posted by bear

Reminds me of the APBA card version of the game. There was a sheet with specilized attributes for fighters, Henry Armstrong could possibly regain stamina after using his up. Liston could balefully glower and intimidate an opponent prior to the fight, McGovern could loose his temper, Hagler could go southpaw for a round. Most of the fighters had unique, specialized attributes and that was a relly cool feature.

I re-rated McGovern about 3 months ago. He's another guy who was never the same after his knockout loss. I move him from prime to post-prime as soon as someone puts him to sleep.

I love that idea, though. Dean, over on the Mods board, assigns a southpaw rating to certain fighters to simulate certain advantages. Like Liston's ability to psyche an opponent out. That wouldn't be the case against every fighter, of course.

[don1234]

That's where the exclusively one-on-one matchup would come in. The durability rating of the game's fighters are superb, allowing them to be thrown into any number of historical and what if bouts. They should be micro-managed for just one bout only, like in the old Trunzo daze. Michael Spinks was, to me, scared sh*tless in the Tyson fight. Never seen him like that before. Accordingly he could be adjusted for that bout only. Liston was clearly intimidated/befuddled in the second Ali fight- a fight impossible to simulate, I believe. Too bizarre.

[don1234]

Here's something to chew on when your mouthpiece is lost: TB simulation of FEAR. A one-fight knockoff. Spinks vs Tyson. How would Spinks' ratings be affected for that fight only? (Hey, I never said this would always be a good time! Running a scared fighter is an exercise in historical replay, not foreplay )

[bear]

Originally Posted by Cap

What you guys are talking about is an initial release of a limited amount of fighters when the game comes out and a periodic release of new fighters by a select group of editors.

I've rerated a lot of the old time fighters I was familiar with, but I would not release mine for the same reason as Danny. They wouldn't relate to many of the fighters rerated by others. You'd need a core group of fighters to act as a control, or something against which all others are rated, and you'd need everyone to agree on how that core group is rated.

By the way, is it true that OOTP has no connection of any kind to Title Bout? That it is Andreas' personal project and his forum space here is almost on loan from OOTP? No Andreas no Forum? Just curious.

Cap

Andreas bought the right to TBCB from the Trunzo's. He, not OOTP, owns the rights to the game. He works for OOTP as a programmer. OOTP provides us with space on their server for our basement forums.

[Cap]

Originally Posted by bear

Andreas bought the right to TBCB from the Trunzo's. He, not OOTP, owns the rights to the game. He works for OOTP as a programmer. OOTP provides us with space on their server for our basement forums.

Sooooo.what you're saying is that OOTP has no connection to Title Bout, and it's sort of Andreas' personal project?

Cap

[bear]

Originally Posted by Cap

Sooooo.what you're saying is that OOTP has no connection to Title Bout, and it's sort of Andreas' personal project?

Cap

That is my understanding

[Scoman]

Originally Posted by Cap

Sooooo.what you're saying is that OOTP has no connection to Title Bout, and it's sort of Andreas' personal project?

Cap

Thats old news,were ya been cap.

[Cap]

I've been hiding out back here in the 20th century............


Cap

[don1234]

Here's another easy-to-do alteration to tailor a fighter to a career moment.

A proven pro, deep in his career, often relies on a foul when he needs an edge. I'm thinking late-career JC Chavez.

To simulate this in TB, lower his normal foul rating by a level or two. Raise his opponents. Pick a referee that's death on fouls. Enjoy the point deduction(s).

[Jersey-Jim]

Originally Posted by don1234

Here's another easy-to-do alteration to tailor a fighter to a career moment.

A proven pro, deep in his career, often relies on a foul when he needs an edge. I'm thinking late-career JC Chavez.

To simulate this in TB, lower his normal foul rating by a level or two. Raise his opponents. Pick a referee that's death on fouls. Enjoy the point deduction(s).

It's interesting how fighters all age differently. In some cases, like George Foreman's and Ali, there are multiple ratings. Larry Holmes could use a post-prime rating as well.

[don1234]

One of the many great simulating abilities in TB is their profiling a dangerous puncher who is in every other category quite ordinary. This worked in the cards and it worked in the computerized version. A fighter with a HP of 9, with low CFs, PLs and a poor defense, was easy pickings for a better fighter. That 9 seldom came into use, but it was there none the less, a python in the corner of the cage. I loved it!

[dragon29]

Jersey Jim,

Its funny how you mentioned the need for a post prime Larry Holmes. I've toyed around with his comeback years (when he beat a prime Ray Mercer and went 12 with Holyfield) and wondered what computer generated career stage is more accurate. The computer generated post prime is almost too good for those years. Its more like the Holmes that fought Michael Spinks. Surprisingly, the "end" computer generated career stage isn't too bad at all for Holmes vs. Mercer, Holmes vs. Holyfield. Usually the "end" career stage is bad news for a fighter but I think in this case it fits pretty well. Any thoughts on that? I'm also interested in developing a Holmes vs. Foreman bout that was supposed to happen but never materialized.

[djday45]

This discussion is fascinating, gives me the itch to do a project lol.