Jones wins

03-02-2003, 01:45 AM

I heard that Jones won a UD over Ruiz.

Will Jones be a good HW or even stay in the division?

Was Ruiz one of the worst HW "champs" ever?

IceTea · 03-02-2003, 03:32 AM

Jones will have to pick and choose his fights at the higer weight. He was just so much faster than Ruiz. Ruiz wasn't nearly aggressive enough.
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IceTea · 03-02-2003, 03:34 AM

Ruiz ranks towards the bottom of all time champs. I would rate him somewhere below Leon Spinks. He is a nice guy, but he just isn't aggressive enough.

Braindead · 03-02-2003, 12:47 PM

I had always thought Ruiz was a good fighter. Kind of boring to watch and not that talented but a good fighter. After watching him last night I lost complete respect for him as a boxer. He showed so little heart it was stunning. He appeared terrified of a man 35 pounds lighter than him. If he would have just tried to push jones up against the ropes constantly he probably could have won. On the other hand Jones fought the fight he wanted to perfectley. He easily out boxed Ruiz in the center of the ring. Even with that said I dont feel there are many heavyweights out there that will allow Jones to fight that style agaisnt them. So I figure he'll only be champ untill he fights a heavyweight with some balls.

Bronx Bomber 15 · 03-04-2003, 09:06 PM

Fightnews.com has Roy ranked at number seven overall in the Heavyweight division. What does everyone think?

JeffR · 03-04-2003, 11:34 PM

Boxrec.com has him at #2 (using a non-subjective ratings system). I think he probably belongs in the top 5 right now. I'd love to see Jones-Tyson, but I doubt it'll ever happen.

Braindead · 03-05-2003, 11:05 AM

You really cant Rank Jones to high because he still would not stand much of a chance against the superheavy weights of the division, Like lewis, Klitshco, Mcline and so many others who wiegh in at over 250.

Bee · 03-05-2003, 11:35 AM

7 sounds more realistic than #2 to me. Luis might not have been a great champion, but he also wasn't a total bum either. He was a decent fighter that was beaten handily by Jones. I think there are 4 or 5 guys in the division that are better heavyweights than Jones right now, but that's about it.

I think Jones-Tyson would be the biggest draw out there for either guy, so it's possible. Money talks and that would have the potential to be one of the biggest money fights ever.

03-02-2003, 01:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
60'sfan Posts: n/a	Jones wins I heard that Jones won a UD over Ruiz. Will Jones be a good HW or even stay in the division? Was Ruiz one of the worst HW "champs" ever?

03-02-2003, 03:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Utica, NY Posts: 6,913	Jones will have to pick and choose his fights at the higer weight. He was just so much faster than Ruiz. Ruiz wasn't nearly aggressive enough. Mark J. __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Understanding Title Bout Boxing Ratings Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Philly Boxing History

03-02-2003, 03:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Utica, NY Posts: 6,913	Ruiz ranks towards the bottom of all time champs. I would rate him somewhere below Leon Spinks. He is a nice guy, but he just isn't aggressive enough. __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Understanding Title Bout Boxing Ratings Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Philly Boxing History

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Bronx Bomber 15 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: LI, NY Posts: 764	RJ at #7 Fightnews.com has Roy ranked at number seven overall in the Heavyweight division. What does everyone think? __________________ EMPIRE BOXING Houston Astros Dynasy page *Harass me directly*

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03-02-2003, 12:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Braindead Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 27	I had always thought Ruiz was a good fighter. Kind of boring to watch and not that talented but a good fighter. After watching him last night I lost complete respect for him as a boxer. He showed so little heart it was stunning. He appeared terrified of a man 35 pounds lighter than him. If he would have just tried to push jones up against the ropes constantly he probably could have won. On the other hand Jones fought the fight he wanted to perfectley. He easily out boxed Ruiz in the center of the ring. Even with that said I dont feel there are many heavyweights out there that will allow Jones to fight that style agaisnt them. So I figure he'll only be champ untill he fights a heavyweight with some balls.

03-04-2003, 11:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
JeffR Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 480	Boxrec.com has him at #2 (using a non-subjective ratings system). I think he probably belongs in the top 5 right now. I'd love to see Jones-Tyson, but I doubt it'll ever happen.

03-05-2003, 11:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
Braindead Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 27	You really cant Rank Jones to high because he still would not stand much of a chance against the superheavy weights of the division, Like lewis, Klitshco, Mcline and so many others who wiegh in at over 250.

03-05-2003, 11:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
Bee Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 148	7 sounds more realistic than #2 to me. Luis might not have been a great champion, but he also wasn't a total bum either. He was a decent fighter that was beaten handily by Jones. I think there are 4 or 5 guys in the division that are better heavyweights than Jones right now, but that's about it. I think Jones-Tyson would be the biggest draw out there for either guy, so it's possible. Money talks and that would have the potential to be one of the biggest money fights ever.