New Super Heavyweight Division

BrocktonBlockBuster · 06-26-2003, 02:17 AM

Just wondering, with more larger heavyweights around than in years past[my opinion anyway]. Should a new Super Heavy weight division be given consideration? If so where would you start? I think I'd go with 240 lbs. and up.

Mark42661 · 06-26-2003, 03:25 AM

Personally, the last thing I'd want to see is yet another weight class in boxing. Although it's slightly before my time, I like the idea of consolidating back to just 8 weight classes and one champion per division. I do already subscribe to EPSN's official stance, however, and recognize the Ring Magazine champion as the True World Champion....WBA, WBC, IBF...etc, means nothing to me.

06-26-2003, 09:29 AM

I'm against a super heavyweight division.

I think the cruiserweights ought to be expanded up to 200 lbs. Anything over 200 should be in the heavyweight class.

ucclark · 06-26-2003, 05:16 PM

A "super heavyweight" division would be bad for boxing. "The Heavyweight Champion of the World" is THE prestige element of the boxing universe. If you invent a "super heavyweight" division, you are effectively devaluing your most valuable commodity, which is insane.

On the other hand, raising the minimum weight for Heavyweights up to 200, or perhaps even 210 or 220, might make sense. Athletes are a lot bigger nowadays, what with weight training, fancy diets, and "special vitamins".

Here's my thinking: Start Heavyweight at 220, to reflect modern reality. Make Cruiserweight a 30 pound division (191-220), Lt Heavy a 20 pound division (171-190), and then 10 pound divisions below that, unitl you get down to the little guys, who might have 5 pound divisions, like this:

Heavyweight: 220 lb and up

Cruiserweight 191-220 lbs

Lt Heavyweight 171-190 lbs

Middleweight 161-170 lbs

Junior Middleweight 151-160 lbs

Welterweight 141-150 lbs

Lightweight 131-140 lbs

Junior Lightweight: 126-130 lbs

Featherweight 121-125 lbs

Junior Featherweight 116-120 lbs

Bantamweight 111-115 pounds

Junior Bantamweight 106-110 lbs

Flyweight 101-105 lbs

Or something like that. The current weight classes have the following problems, as I see it:

1. The Heavyweight minimum is too low - it's no longer realistic for a 205 pound fighter to compete against typical heavyweights (Roy Jones excepted)

2. Too many, and too confusing, heavier weight classes. Giving each class a limit that ends in "0" would improve things (190, 170, 160, 150, 140, 130). At the lighter weight classes, I have less of a problem with a few extra divisions. Heck, the only time those guys make enough money to eat is when they fight for a title, anyway.

BrocktonBlockBuster · 06-27-2003, 12:37 AM

Ucclark,now that is a great idea. I would like to see them also get rid of all the JR. divisions too.

crusadecat · 06-27-2003, 01:35 AM

yes i agree with consilidating the wt. divisions and simplifying it. Some of the dumb ideas like the inane super champion one of the alphabet groups has is the worst yet. I never pay attention to the titles anymore unless its Ring Magazine rated title.

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06-26-2003, 03:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mark42661 All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 550	Personally, the last thing I'd want to see is yet another weight class in boxing. Although it's slightly before my time, I like the idea of consolidating back to just 8 weight classes and one champion per division. I do already subscribe to EPSN's official stance, however, and recognize the Ring Magazine champion as the True World Champion....WBA, WBC, IBF...etc, means nothing to me.

06-26-2003, 09:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
60'sfan Posts: n/a	I'm against a super heavyweight division. I think the cruiserweights ought to be expanded up to 200 lbs. Anything over 200 should be in the heavyweight class.

06-26-2003, 05:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
ucclark Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 221	A "super heavyweight" division would be bad for boxing. "The Heavyweight Champion of the World" is THE prestige element of the boxing universe. If you invent a "super heavyweight" division, you are effectively devaluing your most valuable commodity, which is insane. On the other hand, raising the minimum weight for Heavyweights up to 200, or perhaps even 210 or 220, might make sense. Athletes are a lot bigger nowadays, what with weight training, fancy diets, and "special vitamins". Here's my thinking: Start Heavyweight at 220, to reflect modern reality. Make Cruiserweight a 30 pound division (191-220), Lt Heavy a 20 pound division (171-190), and then 10 pound divisions below that, unitl you get down to the little guys, who might have 5 pound divisions, like this: Heavyweight: 220 lb and up Cruiserweight 191-220 lbs Lt Heavyweight 171-190 lbs Middleweight 161-170 lbs Junior Middleweight 151-160 lbs Welterweight 141-150 lbs Lightweight 131-140 lbs Junior Lightweight: 126-130 lbs Featherweight 121-125 lbs Junior Featherweight 116-120 lbs Bantamweight 111-115 pounds Junior Bantamweight 106-110 lbs Flyweight 101-105 lbs Or something like that. The current weight classes have the following problems, as I see it: 1. The Heavyweight minimum is too low - it's no longer realistic for a 205 pound fighter to compete against typical heavyweights (Roy Jones excepted) 2. Too many, and too confusing, heavier weight classes. Giving each class a limit that ends in "0" would improve things (190, 170, 160, 150, 140, 130). At the lighter weight classes, I have less of a problem with a few extra divisions. Heck, the only time those guys make enough money to eat is when they fight for a title, anyway.

06-27-2003, 12:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
BrocktonBlockBuster Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 280	Ucclark,now that is a great idea. I would like to see them also get rid of all the JR. divisions too.

06-27-2003, 01:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
crusadecat All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 799	yes i agree with consilidating the wt. divisions and simplifying it. Some of the dumb ideas like the inane super champion one of the alphabet groups has is the worst yet. I never pay attention to the titles anymore unless its Ring Magazine rated title.