JUST ANNOUNCED: Roy Jones to challenge Corrie Sanders!

Teraxx · 08-08-2003, 06:49 PM

Now THIS should be a fun fight-- Jones is really taking a step up here vs. the fast-handed southpaw from South Africa.

Date is Nov. 8th in Vegas.

erickdamac · 08-08-2003, 06:51 PM

No deal not done yeet read boy!

Jacobs Says Roy Has Not Signed Yet
By G. Leon

Uh Oh: Doesn't This Sound Familiar

August 08, 2003; Based on a personal conversation he had with Roy Jones Jr. yesterday evening, adviser Brad Jacobs told Boxingtalk.com that Jones has not signed on to fight Corrie Sanders just yet. "This is not to say Sanders is not the fight, said Jacobs, though shortly thereafter he would go on to say "nothing is etched in stone, an Antonio Tarver fight is still very much in the mix, and Roy will be making his decision soon." When I informed him of Murad Muhammad's statement, "all of the documents have been signed" Jacobs said "I cannot speak on what Roy and Murad discussed because I wasn't on the phone, but as of now Roy has not signed any contract, Corrie Sanders might have signed already though."

Read boy read boy!

SBoyce · 08-08-2003, 07:03 PM

I think this will be real interesting. Jones is amazing but I think Sanders is very underrated in the heavywieght division. Sanders is a solid boxer with a big punch. If Jones can take Sanders' shots then he has a chance to beat any of the heavies based on his boxing ability. The question of whether Jones can stand up to the size of the heavywieghts will be answered. I hope they get it together.

Bronx Bomber 15 · 08-09-2003, 12:22 AM

I'd give Roy more credit for fighting Sanders than for fighting Ruiz.
As fast as Jones is, that a dangerous fight for him.
Personally, I'd like to see him fight Toney for the Cruiser Belt.

JeffR · 08-09-2003, 12:54 AM

Nice to see that Jones isn't taking the easy route to a big fight against Lewis. I was hoping he'd take on someone like Sanders or Tua, now we'll see just how well he holds up against a real heavyweight punch.

ucclark · 08-09-2003, 02:17 AM

Well, the story I heard is that Jones will not fight Sanders if Sanders is stripped by the WBO. Of course, in order to fight Jones, Sanders has to be stripped by the WBO, who have already demanded that he fight his mandatory.

So, if this is to be believed, it's just more smoke from Roy Jones, as, in essence, it boils down to:

"I'll agree to fight Corrie Sanders as long as he doesn't agree to fight me."

erickdamac · 08-09-2003, 03:24 AM

WOW I HAVE 254 POST! IN 20DAYS! lol

PittPanther · 08-09-2003, 07:50 AM

I see this as a snoozer. . .sorry guys.

erickdamac · 08-09-2003, 08:05 AM

He did this to get attention! he felt like all the attention went to toney-holyfield , and lewis klisko so he wanted to do something (or act like) to make people say wow he ain't scared!

ucclark · 08-09-2003, 06:47 PM

And that's all it is, is attention seeking. If Roy-Roy ever gets into the ring with Corrie Sanders, I'll be shocked. He's already sending his "weasel out" signals.

Teraxx · 08-10-2003, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PittPanther
I see this as a snoozer. . .sorry guys.

A snoozer? Are you insane man?! Sanders is a quality heavyweight with serious skills, twice the fighter Ruiz is...Roy simply can't do to Sanders what he did against Ruiz-- this is the most fascinating matchup since well, the last Jones heavyweight visit...this could be the fight of the year since Roy will have to throw more shots vs. Sanders to score.

Don't you realize the historical significance of this venture by Roy? I was one of the first to bash Roy on not taking on bigger challenges starting from 3 yrs ago...but going to heavyweight is something non-boxing fans talk about and also can understand---That it is extremelyt difficult for a smalller man to defeat a larger one inside a boxing ring (things different in the MMA world obviously).

I'm surprised at your attitude Pitt...did you ever watch a fight with Sanders in it? His war with Rahman?? Maybe that is the reason for your opinion--Sanders is a fun heavyweight to watch.

wildhawke11 · 08-10-2003, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Teraxx
A snoozer? Are you insane man?! Sanders is a quality heavyweight with serious skills, twice the fighter Ruiz is...Roy simply can't do to Sanders what he did against Ruiz-- this is the most fascinating matchup since well, the last Jones heavyweight visit...this could be the fight of the year since Roy will have to throw more shots vs. Sanders to score.

Don't you realize the historical significance of this venture by Roy? I was one of the first to bash Roy on not taking on bigger challenges starting from 3 yrs ago...but going to heavyweight is something non-boxing fans talk about and also can understand---That it is extremelyt difficult for a smalller man to defeat a larger one inside a boxing ring (things different in the MMA world obviously).

I'm surprised at your attitude Pitt...did you ever watch a fight with Sanders in it? His war with Rahman?? Maybe that is the reason for your opinion--Sanders is a fun heavyweight to watch.

Teraxx
Not hard to be called a quality Heavyweight with the present crop of fighters is it.

HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE
With All respect meant i would tell any New Boxing fan who had said that to check back some Boxing History.

Little surprised at you to say the least.

Leave the rest to Panther Thats of course if he has recovered from his fainting spell

BrocktonBlockBuster · 08-10-2003, 12:58 AM

My money's on Roy all the way!

ucclark · 08-10-2003, 02:02 AM

My money's on Roy, too....to win a unanimous decision over Antonio Tarver. Roy's not going to fight Corrie Sanders, any more than he was going to fight Holyfield.

Bronx Bomber 15 · 08-10-2003, 02:45 AM

The Holyfield fight would have been better for him from a box office standpoint. Holyfield is a name recognized even by non-boxing fans. My guess is that Evander wouldn't bow down to Roys demands so the bout never happened.
A Sander fight would be as exciting as Sanders made it. If he went the route of John Ruiz, it's a typical Roy Jones fight for 12 rounds. If he puts the pressure on Jones and is aggresive, it's more exciting and of course, forces RJ to work all that much harder.
That said, I agree for the most part with UC. RJ has done alot in the past to make big fights NOT happen, I can only assume the Sanders bout won't either.
Jones vs. Tarver: probably end up being similar to Jones/Griffin I or Jones Harding with Jones winning a Una Dec.

BTW. anyone see the [Jones] interview after the Freitas/Barrios fight? Nice little dig at Toney, huh

(Of course, Roy was non-commital).

PittPanther · 08-10-2003, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Teraxx
A snoozer? Are you insane man?! Sanders is a quality heavyweight with serious skills, twice the fighter Ruiz is...Roy simply can't do to Sanders what he did against Ruiz-- this is the most fascinating matchup since well, the last Jones heavyweight visit...this could be the fight of the year since Roy will have to throw more shots vs. Sanders to score.

Don't you realize the historical significance of this venture by Roy? I was one of the first to bash Roy on not taking on bigger challenges starting from 3 yrs ago...but going to heavyweight is something non-boxing fans talk about and also can understand---That it is extremelyt difficult for a smalller man to defeat a larger one inside a boxing ring (things different in the MMA world obviously).

I'm surprised at your attitude Pitt...did you ever watch a fight with Sanders in it? His war with Rahman?? Maybe that is the reason for your opinion--Sanders is a fun heavyweight to watch.

Ok, I'm going to attempt to address a couple of your points. As far as being insane, I wasn't sure if I was qualified enough to answer so I asked me wife. She has confirmed that yes, in fact, I am insane. So I'll give you that one.

Which brings me to the next point which is Sanders. You keep calling him a quality heavy, I like to refer to him as a journeyman. The last time we all saw him against the younger Klitschko (sp) he had a belly that might rival mine. Yes, I know he caught Vlad, and yes I saw the fight, however, I wasn't impressed with either fighter. In my opinion, Roy will control the tempo of the fight, not get hit and, like was the case with Ruiz, easily win on points. A true "snoozer" if you will. Now you may not agree on that which is of course perfectly fine. I just don't see Sanders as anything more than he is, a stepping stone.

The part of the post that really caught my attention was the paragraph about historical significance of this fight. Where you see big things here, I see nothing. This is not, I repeat not the first time a LH, or if you want to be even more exact, a middy has ventured up into the ranks of the heavies. The heavyweight division is were the money is. Some were successful, as is the case of "Ruby" Robert, Mike Spinks, Gene Tunney. . .and so forth, some were not successful like Moore and Foster; you get the picture.

Heck one of my favorite old timers, Ketchel moved up.

Ketchel fought Johnson and Langford. Sure he got crushed by Johnson, but if my memory serves me he held is own against Langford. Both guys are in my top 10 ever as heavyweights.

Langford is another guy that, like Jones, moved up. Except in his case, he moved up all the way from the lightweight ranks and took his punch with him.

Let's talk Billy Conn: he went up and came pretty dam close to beating Joe Louis! Now that to me is something.

Then there are other fights like:
Gene Tunney vs. Jack Dempsey
Bob Fitzsimmons vs. Jim Corbett
Archie Moore vs. Rocky Marciano
Mike Spinks vs. Larry Holmes

These all seem to me to have more significance than Jones' next romp into the heavies to face "Old Man" Sanders.

erickdamac · 08-10-2003, 09:03 AM

Ok man pit you are wrong simple!

Sanders is a journyman yes. But do that mean he is a averge fighter? no. Fight sanders is like fighting rahman but with more power and way more quicker! Roy is going to be the faster of the two fighters but not the quicker! Sander is 240 and 2'4 and he has power! he aint Ruiz! Sanders is bigger, quicker, more powerful, And way more agressive! He wont be scared of roy! he aint scard of jlisko. Roy is not going to knockout any Good heavy's!

I dont think you saw the sander last fight i you did tell me what happend? I just dont beleive you saw the way he hit!

PittPanther · 08-10-2003, 09:28 AM

Erick,

I saw the last Sanders fight against Vlad. He caught Vlad early, and Vlad couldn't regain his balance. Therefore he keep going down. No, I don't follow Sanders career, although I'm glad he shaved off his mustache. Sorry if I don't feel he is the next coming of Jack Dempsey.

If Jones fights him, I see Jones cruising to an easy win on points as I stated earlier.

You don't agree I see, which is fine. I won't apologize for my opinion. By the way, I usually avoid responding to anything you write but this time I did because I find it hard to swallow that you, along with that other cat, prop up Sanders on a pedastal.

To address some of your other points, let's consider that you say Sanders will be aggresive. Big mistake against a counterpuncher like Jones. In the Ruiz fight, Ruiz was doing well with his bullrush until Roy caught him with a stinging right hand that ended the rushes. Same will happen to Sanders if he is not careful.

Sanders quicker than Roy? Really. . . Quicker how, to the dinner table? the fridge? the bathroom? You can't possibly mean hand speed or defensively, or even ability to move in the ring.

If Jones wants to impress me, an ardent lifetime fan of the "Pensacola Phantom", take on Lewis. Pure and simple. The rest of the fights are "hand picked" if you will. If Lewis does in fact retire, as he has hinted, then no matter how successful Jones might be in the heavyweight division there will always be the ole "what if" surrounding his ascent.

To sum it up:

I heard all this same nonsense before he fought Ruiz. How Ruiz is aggresive and fast and has a punch. Blah, blah, blah. . .

I just don't get excited over these stepping stone fights for Roy.

erickdamac · 08-10-2003, 10:37 AM

Oh i guess i should thank you for reading my post? whatever
If roy can beat him easy why wont he fight him? You know why because roy know he cant control the fight! Roy is short he is a short boxer! He is not a slugger sluggers are short he cant controll the fight sander can throw hishooks while being 3 eet away which means roy cant use the jab to controll the fight!

This is a messege board people have there own opinons im not mad at you im just talking. Like in my opinon rocky marciano is way over rated. But alot of people think im wrong and call me names because of it lol.

All im saying i dont see roy using the jab to contoll the fight. If he cant use his jab what do roy have going for him, in the heavyweight division? ruiz and sanders are two diffrent fighters and he did not fight vitly he fought his little brother (the better of the two alot of experts think) And he is way more talented then his brother. Roy need to fight people like holyfield,byrd, james toney people who he can use his jab against. But when you start talking hasim rahman,tyson , tua (which he is scared of said if he is number one he will forfeit title) lennox, klisko's, and people like that then he is going to lose!

My point is why would sanders, tua be affrai of him? hHe has no power, And all he has is a jab that sets the right. Which is good, dont get me wrong but big heavyweights aint oing to be affraid of him and they are going to bull rush him. Now dont think im mad at your opinon, Because im not.

erickdamac · 08-10-2003, 10:41 AM

Lamo did i say sander was quicker then roy? wow i ment he is quicker then ruiz lol. But see roy want to fight lennox and get 50mil and look bad so he can fight one more time and retire! he knows he cant beat lennox tyson hasim and tua. He knows ruiz has a weak chin. And do you really think roy has power? do you think he can knockdown rahman? tua? Tua maybe because tua is short he can pound the face until he is tired. but he cant knockdown no big man. Like i said he is a 5'11 boxer he depends on his jab at 5'11 and that aint going to work in the heavyweight division today.

Hey in this day and age its only certain people that gets you excited in the heavy division. tyson,roy,rahman,tuam and lennox and the sad thing is they can fight anybody and still have people going crazy (except lewis)

08-08-2003, 06:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Teraxx Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 107	JUST ANNOUNCED: Roy Jones to challenge Corrie Sanders! Now THIS should be a fun fight-- Jones is really taking a step up here vs. the fast-handed southpaw from South Africa. Date is Nov. 8th in Vegas.

08-09-2003, 12:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
Bronx Bomber 15 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: LI, NY Posts: 764	I'd give Roy more credit for fighting Sanders than for fighting Ruiz. As fast as Jones is, that a dangerous fight for him. Personally, I'd like to see him fight Toney for the Cruiser Belt. __________________ EMPIRE BOXING Houston Astros Dynasy page *Harass me directly*

08-09-2003, 02:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
ucclark Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 221	Well, the story I heard is that Jones will not fight Sanders if Sanders is stripped by the WBO. Of course, in order to fight Jones, Sanders has to be stripped by the WBO, who have already demanded that he fight his mandatory. So, if this is to be believed, it's just more smoke from Roy Jones, as, in essence, it boils down to: "I'll agree to fight Corrie Sanders as long as he doesn't agree to fight me." __________________ http://lba.bravehost.com Home of the Linear Boxing Association

08-09-2003, 07:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
PittPanther All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,174	I see this as a snoozer. . .sorry guys. __________________ Commitment Teamwork Pride Hail to Pitt!

08-09-2003, 06:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
ucclark Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 221	And that's all it is, is attention seeking. If Roy-Roy ever gets into the ring with Corrie Sanders, I'll be shocked. He's already sending his "weasel out" signals. __________________ http://lba.bravehost.com Home of the Linear Boxing Association

08-08-2003, 06:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	No deal not done yeet read boy! Jacobs Says Roy Has Not Signed Yet By G. Leon Uh Oh: Doesn't This Sound Familiar August 08, 2003; Based on a personal conversation he had with Roy Jones Jr. yesterday evening, adviser Brad Jacobs told Boxingtalk.com that Jones has not signed on to fight Corrie Sanders just yet. "This is not to say Sanders is not the fight, said Jacobs, though shortly thereafter he would go on to say "nothing is etched in stone, an Antonio Tarver fight is still very much in the mix, and Roy will be making his decision soon." When I informed him of Murad Muhammad's statement, "all of the documents have been signed" Jacobs said "I cannot speak on what Roy and Murad discussed because I wasn't on the phone, but as of now Roy has not signed any contract, Corrie Sanders might have signed already though." Read boy read boy!

08-08-2003, 07:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
SBoyce Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 137	I think this will be real interesting. Jones is amazing but I think Sanders is very underrated in the heavywieght division. Sanders is a solid boxer with a big punch. If Jones can take Sanders' shots then he has a chance to beat any of the heavies based on his boxing ability. The question of whether Jones can stand up to the size of the heavywieghts will be answered. I hope they get it together.

08-09-2003, 12:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
JeffR Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 480	Nice to see that Jones isn't taking the easy route to a big fight against Lewis. I was hoping he'd take on someone like Sanders or Tua, now we'll see just how well he holds up against a real heavyweight punch.

08-09-2003, 03:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	WOW I HAVE 254 POST! IN 20DAYS! lol

08-09-2003, 08:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	He did this to get attention! he felt like all the attention went to toney-holyfield , and lewis klisko so he wanted to do something (or act like) to make people say wow he ain't scared!

08-10-2003, 12:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
BrocktonBlockBuster Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 280	My money's on Roy all the way!

08-10-2003, 02:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
ucclark Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 221	My money's on Roy, too....to win a unanimous decision over Antonio Tarver. Roy's not going to fight Corrie Sanders, any more than he was going to fight Holyfield. __________________ http://lba.bravehost.com Home of the Linear Boxing Association

08-10-2003, 02:45 AM	#15 (permalink)
Bronx Bomber 15 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: LI, NY Posts: 764	The Holyfield fight would have been better for him from a box office standpoint. Holyfield is a name recognized even by non-boxing fans. My guess is that Evander wouldn't bow down to Roys demands so the bout never happened. A Sander fight would be as exciting as Sanders made it. If he went the route of John Ruiz, it's a typical Roy Jones fight for 12 rounds. If he puts the pressure on Jones and is aggresive, it's more exciting and of course, forces RJ to work all that much harder. That said, I agree for the most part with UC. RJ has done alot in the past to make big fights NOT happen, I can only assume the Sanders bout won't either. Jones vs. Tarver: probably end up being similar to Jones/Griffin I or Jones Harding with Jones winning a Una Dec. BTW. anyone see the [Jones] interview after the Freitas/Barrios fight? Nice little dig at Toney, huh (Of course, Roy was non-commital). __________________ EMPIRE BOXING Houston Astros Dynasy page *Harass me directly*

08-10-2003, 09:03 AM	#17 (permalink)
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	Ok man pit you are wrong simple! Sanders is a journyman yes. But do that mean he is a averge fighter? no. Fight sanders is like fighting rahman but with more power and way more quicker! Roy is going to be the faster of the two fighters but not the quicker! Sander is 240 and 2'4 and he has power! he aint Ruiz! Sanders is bigger, quicker, more powerful, And way more agressive! He wont be scared of roy! he aint scard of jlisko. Roy is not going to knockout any Good heavy's! I dont think you saw the sander last fight i you did tell me what happend? I just dont beleive you saw the way he hit!

08-10-2003, 09:28 AM	#18 (permalink)
PittPanther All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,174	Erick, I saw the last Sanders fight against Vlad. He caught Vlad early, and Vlad couldn't regain his balance. Therefore he keep going down. No, I don't follow Sanders career, although I'm glad he shaved off his mustache. Sorry if I don't feel he is the next coming of Jack Dempsey. If Jones fights him, I see Jones cruising to an easy win on points as I stated earlier. You don't agree I see, which is fine. I won't apologize for my opinion. By the way, I usually avoid responding to anything you write but this time I did because I find it hard to swallow that you, along with that other cat, prop up Sanders on a pedastal. To address some of your other points, let's consider that you say Sanders will be aggresive. Big mistake against a counterpuncher like Jones. In the Ruiz fight, Ruiz was doing well with his bullrush until Roy caught him with a stinging right hand that ended the rushes. Same will happen to Sanders if he is not careful. Sanders quicker than Roy? Really. . . Quicker how, to the dinner table? the fridge? the bathroom? You can't possibly mean hand speed or defensively, or even ability to move in the ring. If Jones wants to impress me, an ardent lifetime fan of the "Pensacola Phantom", take on Lewis. Pure and simple. The rest of the fights are "hand picked" if you will. If Lewis does in fact retire, as he has hinted, then no matter how successful Jones might be in the heavyweight division there will always be the ole "what if" surrounding his ascent. To sum it up: I heard all this same nonsense before he fought Ruiz. How Ruiz is aggresive and fast and has a punch. Blah, blah, blah. . . I just don't get excited over these stepping stone fights for Roy. __________________ Commitment Teamwork Pride Hail to Pitt! Last edited by PittPanther : 08-10-2003 at 09:35 AM.

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08-10-2003, 10:37 AM	#19 (permalink)
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	Oh i guess i should thank you for reading my post? whatever If roy can beat him easy why wont he fight him? You know why because roy know he cant control the fight! Roy is short he is a short boxer! He is not a slugger sluggers are short he cant controll the fight sander can throw hishooks while being 3 eet away which means roy cant use the jab to controll the fight! This is a messege board people have there own opinons im not mad at you im just talking. Like in my opinon rocky marciano is way over rated. But alot of people think im wrong and call me names because of it lol. All im saying i dont see roy using the jab to contoll the fight. If he cant use his jab what do roy have going for him, in the heavyweight division? ruiz and sanders are two diffrent fighters and he did not fight vitly he fought his little brother (the better of the two alot of experts think) And he is way more talented then his brother. Roy need to fight people like holyfield,byrd, james toney people who he can use his jab against. But when you start talking hasim rahman,tyson , tua (which he is scared of said if he is number one he will forfeit title) lennox, klisko's, and people like that then he is going to lose! My point is why would sanders, tua be affrai of him? hHe has no power, And all he has is a jab that sets the right. Which is good, dont get me wrong but big heavyweights aint oing to be affraid of him and they are going to bull rush him. Now dont think im mad at your opinon, Because im not.

08-10-2003, 10:41 AM	#20 (permalink)
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	Lamo did i say sander was quicker then roy? wow i ment he is quicker then ruiz lol. But see roy want to fight lennox and get 50mil and look bad so he can fight one more time and retire! he knows he cant beat lennox tyson hasim and tua. He knows ruiz has a weak chin. And do you really think roy has power? do you think he can knockdown rahman? tua? Tua maybe because tua is short he can pound the face until he is tired. but he cant knockdown no big man. Like i said he is a 5'11 boxer he depends on his jab at 5'11 and that aint going to work in the heavyweight division today. Hey in this day and age its only certain people that gets you excited in the heavy division. tyson,roy,rahman,tuam and lennox and the sad thing is they can fight anybody and still have people going crazy (except lewis) Last edited by erickdamac : 08-10-2003 at 10:43 AM.