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Old 01-07-2004, 06:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rating fighters from the 1980's

Steve Zouski

Heavyweight from 1978-1991.
Overall Rating: 1
Style: Boxer
Boxrec ID-000792
Record: 31-18-0 15 KO's

Before becoming a punching bag for up-and-coming Heavies, Zouski began his career 21-1-0 fighting in and around Boston. In 1981, he got decked in the 6th round by a 3-0 Marvis Frazier at Madison Square Garden. 1982-1990 was no picnic either. In those years, he was TKO'd by a 13-0 Tony Tubbs, KO'd in the 3rd by an 18-0 Mike Tyson, KO'd in the 4th by a 9-0 Johnny DuPlooy, TKO'd in the 4th by George Foreman, Lost on points in a
4-rounder to a 4-0 Tommy Morrison, and lost on points to an 8-0 Corrie Sanders.

CF B/S: 5/7
HP 2
Chin KD 6
Chin KO 4
Recovery 4
Cuts 2
Absorb Punishment 4
KI 5
AGG 6
END 6
DEF +4
Fast Starter 3
Fight on Ropes 3
Fouls- Occasionally

Punching 30
Counter 32
Missed 62
Clinching 69

STRATEGY
FI 1
FO 2
CU 3
KO 0

All Punches 2points
Jab 24.5
Hooks 17
Crosses 17.5
Combinations 25
Upper Cuts 16

Draw 2
Condition 3
Intellect 7
Prof 10

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Old 01-07-2004, 09:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Mel;
Thanks for posting Zouski. Just wasn't the '80s without him! LOL
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Old 01-08-2004, 07:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you for the rating Mel!

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Old 01-08-2004, 08:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Rating fighters from the 1980's
Freddie Roach

Junior Lightweight/Lightweight from 1978-1986.
Overall Rating: 4
Style: Either
Boxrec ID-003014
Record: 39-13-0 15 KO's

Freddie currently runs the highly successful Wild Card Boxing Gym in Hollywood, California. Current stable includes James Toney and Manny Pacquiao. Freddie and his brother Pepper were both regulars on ESPN boxing back in the mid-eighties. In 1985-1986, he took Bobby Chacon, Darryl Tyson, and Hector Camacho,Sr. the distance, though losing all 3 fights.

CF B/S: 8/5
HP 3
Chin KD 3
Chin KO 1
Recovery 1
Cuts 3
Absorb Punishment 3
KI 5
AGG 6
END 9
DEF 0
Fast Starter 3
Fight on Ropes 3
Fouls- Seldom

Punching 36
Counter 32
Missed 62
Clinching 70

STRATEGY
FI 2
FO 2
CU 2
KO 1

Punches 2points/3points
Jab 21/0
Hooks 19/1
Crosses 21/1
Combinations 22/0
Upper Cuts 14/1

Draw 3
Condition 3
Intellect 8
Prof 10

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Old 01-08-2004, 10:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You sure on the 1 HP's for these guys? Both won about 30% of their fights by KO. I'd expect them to be closer to 3-4.
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Old 01-09-2004, 12:32 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think the 1 rating is used a little too liberaly for many of the fighters. I would reserve that rating for light hitting club fighters. I recall seeing negative HP for some women in TF 2001. Does the game take negative ratings in effect?

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Old 01-10-2004, 02:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I agree with the too-many-1s-HP comment, dempsonny. Seems an awful lot of folks are pitter-patters ...

Anyway, if Mel T has no objections, I've got a couple of Euro heavies I could post here.
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Old 01-11-2004, 01:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Post away Vistaman. I've used your ratings for Kid Covelli. They're right on. Thanks.
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Old 01-12-2004, 07:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks, Mel. Will get busy on it soon.
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Old 01-14-2004, 02:12 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Red face A European heavyweight

In the spirit of the Steve Zouski post, here's Alfio Righetti, an Italian national heavyweight champion who fought 1974-80 and posted a gaudy 36-2-1 record with 17 KOs. Righetti posted wins over Dante Cane, Jose "King" Roman, Giuseppe "Bepi" Ros, Mario Barruzzi, numerous other Euro heavies and European light-heavy champ Ramon Avenemar Peralta; drew with Lorenzo Zanon; lost to Leon Spinks and Terry Mims. The stunning KO loss to Mims was the only time he was stopped and sent him into retirement. The draw with Zanon was for the European heavyweight crown.

Alfio Righetti
Italy-4
1974-80
BoxRec 000302
36-2-1, 17 KOs
b. 1952-09-18

Either/seldom
CFB/S 8/7
HP 4
CKD 3
CKO 1
REC 3
CUTS 2
AP 2
KI 7
AGG 7
END 8
DEF 2
FS 2
OR 3
DP 3
CON 3
INT 5
PRF 10
FI 2
FO 2
CU 2
GK 2
CLI 69
Punches
J 22/2.5
H 22/3
CR 15/3
CB 15/3
UC 22/3
PL 36
CP 34
PM 60
Rate 4
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Old 01-14-2004, 02:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Cool Another European heavy

Anders Eklund was tougher to rate than Righetti because he "rollercoastered" in his career. The big Swede (238 to 253 pounds) was 19-5-1 with 10 KOs, 1982-90. He defeated Alfredo Evangelista, Steffen Tangstad, Glenn McCrory, Jesse Ferguson, Dorcy Gaymon, Phillip Brown and Felipe Rodriguez, but drew with Guido Trane and lost to Frank Bruno, Tim Witherspoon, Joe Bugner, Noel Quarless and Francesco Damiani. He was the European champion, and the win over Brown gave him the "WBA Americas" crown.

Anders Eklund
Sweden-4
19-5-1, 10 KOs
1982-90
b. 1957-12-22
BoxRec 000639

Slugger/seldom
CFB/S 8/8
HP 4
CKD 4
CKO 3
REC 2
CUTS 2
AP 2
KI 6
AGG 6
END 8
DEF 4
FS 1
OR 3
DP 3
CON 3
INT 5
PRF 10
FI 3
FO 1
CU 2
GK 3
CLI 68
Punches
J 18/3
H 15/4
CR 16/3
CB 17/3
UC 18/3
PL 36
CP 34
PM 62
Rate 4
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Old 01-14-2004, 11:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Hi Mark,

I plugged you numbers in for Eklund and do you know the game autorater for the overall gave me a 1 !

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Old 01-14-2004, 11:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
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It did that to me, too, a few days ago when I input the numbers. I thought, "that can't be right," so after I saved I hit the calculate buttn again and it gave me a 4. I think there may be another bug, because that also happened with a flyweight I created for my replay: initial rating was a 3. Saved and hit calculate again and the guy became a 6. Try it and see if it happens to you, too.

Anyway, I did 100 bouts of playtesting against the guys Eklund faced who TBCB had rated, and he did about as expected. Go figure. I can do more and tweek some if you think it's warranted.
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Old 01-14-2004, 11:49 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hey Mark,

No, if your satisified with your play testing the ratings are probably pretty close. I was just surprised when the thing gave me a 1. I've notice that little quirk in that autorating function also. As you say, another little bug there I think.

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Old 01-15-2004, 02:03 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I've seen the autorating glitch on occasion also...
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Old 01-15-2004, 09:53 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Cool That's a relief!

Thanks, Rasmuth and Rocco. Glad I'm not the only one who's witnessed this. Thought I was seeing things and maybe it was time to take a break from the game and rating fighters ...! LOL

Probably should be pointed out to Andreas ...
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Old 01-16-2004, 09:08 PM   #17 (permalink)
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These fighters are now also at CornerWork.com....
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Old 01-19-2004, 07:01 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Old 01-21-2004, 07:20 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Thanks jr. Appreciate you time and effort. CornerWork looks awesome.
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Old 01-25-2004, 07:06 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Jose Luis Zepeda
Overall Rating-6

Style:Either
Minimum Weight/Light Flyweight
Nickname:Gringa
Boxrec ID: 008706
Right-handed
Nationality:Mexico

Record 27-19-2 (22KO)

Career 1984-2000

CB/S 7/9
HP/KI 3/6
Chin KD/KO 3/2
REC 1
Cuts 2
Absorb Punishment 3
AGG 6
END 9
Defense 0
Fast Start 2
Ropes 2
Fouls Seldom

Draw 1
Cond 4
Intell 8
Prof 10

FI 1
FO 2
CU 1
KO 1

Punches Landed 40
Counter 36
Punches Missed 61
Clinching 70

Punches 2pt/3pt
Jabs 20/2
Hooks 15/3
Crosses 17/2
Combinations 24/0
Uppercuts 15/2

Zepeda fought and lost for the Mexican Light Flyweight title 3 times and the IBF Flyweight title twice.
He won the WBC Continental Americas Strawweight title from Jose Luis Velarde with an 11th round KO and won the USBA Flyweight title with a 12 round decision over Scotty "The Bulldog" Olson.

Zepeda is 0-7 against fighters in the game. In his prime, he lost to Humberto Gonzales(9E),Ricardo Lopez(13E),Pichit Sithbangprachan(6E),and Jose Victor Burgos(in his prime).

He also has Past-prime losses to Francisco Garcia and Jose Carlita Lopez.

His career ended with a 5 round KO Loss to Jose Antonio Aguirre(8S) for the WBC Minimumweight Title.
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