Latest News: OOTP 13 Announced with Screenshots & Feature List! Pre-Order Now! - OOTP Baseball 12 Available! - iOOTP Baseball 2011 Available! - Title Bout Championship Boxing 2.5 released! - Inside the Park Baseball Patch 1.03 released, DEMO now available

Pre-Order OOTP 13, Save & Win! | OOTP 12 Off-Season Special, just $19.99!

Go Back   OOTP Developments Forums > Title Bout Championship Boxing > TBCB General Discussions

TBCB General Discussions Talk about the new boxing sim, Title Bout.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-16-2004, 11:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
All Star Starter
 
Rasmuth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Upstate Western NY
Posts: 1,382
Thanks: 9
Thanked 17x in 14 posts
Ron Stander - the referee

anybody see former heavyweight Ron Stander tonight as the referee for the Garr/Vanda fight on Friday Night Fights? Good to see him still part of the "sweet science".
Rasmuth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2004, 12:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
Hall Of Famer
 
vistaman44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Auxvasse, Mo.
Posts: 3,559
Thanks: 70
Thanked 186x in 111 posts
That's my avatar, man. I missed it. How'd he do?
__________________
---Mark (vistaman44)
http://www.fistication.blogspot.com/

"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters, compared to what lies within us."
Ralph Waldo Emerson, American essayist, philosopher and poet (1803-1882)

-----------------------------------
Currently operating 1970s SM-HW, 1940s, African, 1980s LW and women's boxing universes
vistaman44 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2004, 12:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
All Star Starter
 
Rasmuth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Upstate Western NY
Posts: 1,382
Thanks: 9
Thanked 17x in 14 posts
He did well and the fight was entertaining...BUT the decision was ATROCIOUS!!!!!!

Garr dominated that fight...landed double the punches....Garr was the victim of hometown judges. ATROCIOUS!!!! I can't tell you how disappointed I am that this kind of crap happens.

Vanda won...maybe 1 round. A horrible display of the seamy underside of boxing. Minnesota does not have a state regulatory commission for boxing...so there is no regulation.

I'm very dismayed. It would have been one thing if the fight was close...but it wasn't.
Rasmuth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2004, 12:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
All Star Reserve
 
Mark42661's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 744
Thanks: 44
Thanked 52x in 40 posts
Yes, it was a very bad decision. Even the judge that scored it 97-95 for Garr...I don't know what fight he was watching. Teddy Atlas did not have Garr losing a single round, with a couple of even rounds thrown in and I very much agree with the way he scored the fight.

But as far as Ron Stander...he did do an excellent job.
__________________
A Man of the World
Site dedicated to Sailor Tom Sharkey

"It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear
you out; it's the pebble in your shoe." - Muhammad Ali
Mark42661 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2004, 01:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
Minors (Single A)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 77
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 posts
Not to beat a dead horse, but that was a digusting decision. I don't see how you could give Vanda more than a couple rounds tops.
ACGord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2004, 01:25 AM   #6 (permalink)
All Star Starter
 
Rasmuth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Upstate Western NY
Posts: 1,382
Thanks: 9
Thanked 17x in 14 posts
Somebody needs to rate Stander as a referee!
Rasmuth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2004, 02:41 AM   #7 (permalink)
All Star Starter
 
wildhawke11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: united kingdom
Posts: 1,954
Thanks: 1
Thanked 14x in 6 posts
Who promoted the fight.

Unless the rules have changed he always paid the bills for things such as hotels, food, the whole works. As you said he is a new ref, if he does as told he will get more work. You upset there cosy little system then you don't work, simple as that. Plus the fact you don't bite the hand that feeds you, well that's if you want to eat again.

You might have missed a posting i did some while back i was telling the guys that i know for a fact that in one championship fight the ref was told to favour one fighter. He refused point blank.

He no longer has a job as a ref and he was a bloody good ref hard but fair, knew just the right time to stop a fight, and always his first priority in the ring was the fighters health.

Many guys who ref a fight today should never in fact be in that job. There a danger to both fighters health, but they play the game and don't cross swords with the wrong people.

How do i know you might well ask, the guy said so himself.
__________________
Always in our Hearts - RIP Danny 1939 - 2010

Last edited by wildhawke11; 01-17-2004 at 02:43 AM.
wildhawke11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2004, 03:00 AM   #8 (permalink)
All Star Starter
 
wildhawke11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: united kingdom
Posts: 1,954
Thanks: 1
Thanked 14x in 6 posts
To add to what i just said, one particular fighter had a big TV contract lined up, So of course all in control wanted him to win the bout. On the way to the ring the opposing manager even said to the ref don't do my guy any favours they were all in on the deal

The result i am pleased to tell was the major money making fighter lost the fight.

A couple of weeks later the winning fighter split up with his manager he found out about the dealings going on, but of course at the time it never was in the papers the real truth about the split i mean.

It was a few years back now that happened.
There are a few things that a ref can do in the ring which often goes unnoticed by the public. Other things of course are very blatant
__________________
Always in our Hearts - RIP Danny 1939 - 2010

Last edited by wildhawke11; 01-17-2004 at 03:05 AM.
wildhawke11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2004, 01:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
Hall Of Famer
 
vistaman44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Auxvasse, Mo.
Posts: 3,559
Thanks: 70
Thanked 186x in 111 posts
Exclamation By all means!

Quote:
Originally posted by Rasmuth
Somebody needs to rate Stander as a referee!
That would be great! By all means, someone who saw it, please post a rating for my man Ron, the Butcher turned referee!
__________________
---Mark (vistaman44)
http://www.fistication.blogspot.com/

"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters, compared to what lies within us."
Ralph Waldo Emerson, American essayist, philosopher and poet (1803-1882)

-----------------------------------
Currently operating 1970s SM-HW, 1940s, African, 1980s LW and women's boxing universes
vistaman44 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2004, 02:07 PM   #10 (permalink)
All Star Starter
 
Rasmuth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Upstate Western NY
Posts: 1,382
Thanks: 9
Thanked 17x in 14 posts
I'll post it tonight...
Rasmuth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2004, 07:02 AM   #11 (permalink)
Hall Of Famer
 
vistaman44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Auxvasse, Mo.
Posts: 3,559
Thanks: 70
Thanked 186x in 111 posts
Edited request

Rasmuth;
I know you're swamped. Just wanted to remind you about the Stander referee rating. Thanks in advance.
__________________
---Mark (vistaman44)
http://www.fistication.blogspot.com/

"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters, compared to what lies within us."
Ralph Waldo Emerson, American essayist, philosopher and poet (1803-1882)

-----------------------------------
Currently operating 1970s SM-HW, 1940s, African, 1980s LW and women's boxing universes

Last edited by vistaman44; 01-19-2004 at 08:54 AM.
vistaman44 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright © 2009 Out of the Park Developments