Calculating the Odds

earl6125 · 02-15-2004, 10:21 AM

Ok..its Saturday nite and you have nothing to do. You bring up your TB and decide to have a fight card. As you being playing your TB through just plain fights, fight cards, tournaments, autoschedulers, etc..you set your fight card.

Your main event is Ali vs Charles Byrd. Charles Byrd you say???

Well through all your auto scheduling, etc..Charles is the #1 ranked heavyweight. I guess myself, how could that be..(when I used auto scheduler he was in it..and he became WBC (I think I picked unifed as my choice under the scheduler so whats the deal with that)...anyway we are getting off track..maybe someone can figure that out for me as you respond to this.

The fight card is set...I look at the place bets..I dont place any bets. I find out Ali is only a 2-1 shot over Byrd. How can that be guys!! Ali is rated a 15 and Byrd is a one. Why does TB make it a 2-1 favorite. Then on the same card there is an "off the board" bet..no odds.

So if you can help me out here I would appreciate it. Thanks.

wildhawke11 · 02-15-2004, 11:05 AM

Earl

So Ali is only a 2-1 favourite perhaps the computer is taking in consideration Ali is now an old man.

Its banking on maybe when Byrd looks up from his corner and watches old Ali warming up and shouting.

So these the best you got today
Well this old guy gonna put you away
When i start punching and a doing the talking
If you wanna stay healthy you better start a walking
This aint no fat guy your facing here
I can see already your a trembling with fear
So your best chance now is to leave this ring
Cause now your a facing the guy they call the King

vistaman44 · 02-15-2004, 12:28 PM

Wow, Danny the poet! Is there nothing this man can't do?! LOL

earl6125 · 02-15-2004, 04:18 PM

But seriously what about the 2-1 odds as far as this game goes..is there something maybe I did wrong..and what is this off the board bet..what does that mean.

I have made corrections to my auto sheduling. Retired guys get ranked now..would that have something to do with this.

Need feedback here..a 15 rated guy going against a 1 rated guy..what would be the odds for this fight?

Cap · 02-15-2004, 04:26 PM

Well, last card I made, when I checked the purses for each guy, everybody was getting the same lousy hunert bucks! Boy, I knew I was cheap, but give me a break. Shoulda been at least 200 clams for the main eventers.

Cap

earl6125 · 02-15-2004, 06:19 PM

So what drives the odds..is it what you bet or who is fighting how..seems to mean what should drive the odds is the who is fighting.

Staff folks..what calucates the odds for each fight or anyone with knowledge on this..I see Ali going against a tomato can who is #1 and Ali only gets 2-1 odds..some odds like Joe Louis over an unknown is 3-2...what makes these odds. I sometimes down even bet. That should have anything do with it?

PyroFalkon · 02-16-2004, 01:46 AM

I've guessed (NOT confirmed) that betting odds are at least partially based on performance points. Sometimes I'll have two guys at each other with 1-1 even odds, and then a few "seasons" later (after both have won and lost different times to different people), someone will have a 2-1 advantage.

I've also made a few career losers to bolster a couple fighters' records, and the losers started off with promising odds, like 3-2 or 3-1, but are now ALWAYS off the board because they stink so badly. Whether that has to do with the record or the performance points (or both), I don't know, but it seems to be the logical thing.

02-15-2004, 10:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
earl6125 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 165	Calculating the Odds Ok..its Saturday nite and you have nothing to do. You bring up your TB and decide to have a fight card. As you being playing your TB through just plain fights, fight cards, tournaments, autoschedulers, etc..you set your fight card. Your main event is Ali vs Charles Byrd. Charles Byrd you say??? Well through all your auto scheduling, etc..Charles is the #1 ranked heavyweight. I guess myself, how could that be..(when I used auto scheduler he was in it..and he became WBC (I think I picked unifed as my choice under the scheduler so whats the deal with that)...anyway we are getting off track..maybe someone can figure that out for me as you respond to this. The fight card is set...I look at the place bets..I dont place any bets. I find out Ali is only a 2-1 shot over Byrd. How can that be guys!! Ali is rated a 15 and Byrd is a one. Why does TB make it a 2-1 favorite. Then on the same card there is an "off the board" bet..no odds. So if you can help me out here I would appreciate it. Thanks.

02-15-2004, 12:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
vistaman44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Auxvasse, Mo. Posts: 3,143	Wow, Danny the poet! Is there nothing this man can't do?! LOL __________________ ---Mark (vistaman44) "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters, compared to what lies within us." — Ralph Waldo Emerson, American essayist, philosopher and poet (1803-1882) ----------------------------------- Currently operating 1980s JM-HW, 1940s, African, 1980s LW and women's boxing universes

02-15-2004, 04:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 4,004	Well, last card I made, when I checked the purses for each guy, everybody was getting the same lousy hunert bucks! Boy, I knew I was cheap, but give me a break. Shoulda been at least 200 clams for the main eventers. Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

02-16-2004, 01:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
PyroFalkon Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 216	I've guessed (NOT confirmed) that betting odds are at least partially based on performance points. Sometimes I'll have two guys at each other with 1-1 even odds, and then a few "seasons" later (after both have won and lost different times to different people), someone will have a 2-1 advantage. I've also made a few career losers to bolster a couple fighters' records, and the losers started off with promising odds, like 3-2 or 3-1, but are now ALWAYS off the board because they stink so badly. Whether that has to do with the record or the performance points (or both), I don't know, but it seems to be the logical thing. __________________ ~PF

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02-15-2004, 11:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
wildhawke11 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: united kingdom Posts: 1,834	Earl So Ali is only a 2-1 favourite perhaps the computer is taking in consideration Ali is now an old man. Its banking on maybe when Byrd looks up from his corner and watches old Ali warming up and shouting. So these the best you got today Well this old guy gonna put you away When i start punching and a doing the talking If you wanna stay healthy you better start a walking This aint no fat guy your facing here I can see already your a trembling with fear So your best chance now is to leave this ring Cause now your a facing the guy they call the King

02-15-2004, 04:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
earl6125 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 165	But seriously what about the 2-1 odds as far as this game goes..is there something maybe I did wrong..and what is this off the board bet..what does that mean. I have made corrections to my auto sheduling. Retired guys get ranked now..would that have something to do with this. Need feedback here..a 15 rated guy going against a 1 rated guy..what would be the odds for this fight?

02-15-2004, 06:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
earl6125 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 165	So what drives the odds..is it what you bet or who is fighting how..seems to mean what should drive the odds is the who is fighting. Staff folks..what calucates the odds for each fight or anyone with knowledge on this..I see Ali going against a tomato can who is #1 and Ali only gets 2-1 odds..some odds like Joe Louis over an unknown is 3-2...what makes these odds. I sometimes down even bet. That should have anything do with it?