PING: Jim Trunzo

mh2365 · 04-07-2004, 12:08 AM

IMO we need an official rating of Duk Koo Kim (which might be hard since his only big fight was the one that killed him) since he was such an important figure to boxing history. Once again just my .02$

Bonedwarf · 04-07-2004, 06:47 AM

As a boxing n00b, why is he so important? (Serious question.)

mh2365 · 04-07-2004, 09:45 AM

Immediately after his death, they stopped 15 round fights.

here's a good article on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duk_Koo_Kim

Night2000 · 04-07-2004, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mh2365
Immediately after his death, they stopped 15 round fights.

here's a good article on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duk_Koo_Kim

I always wondered why they stopped 15 round fights.
Now I have the answer, thanks mh2365

mh2365 · 04-07-2004, 12:56 PM

NP, The fight had a lasting effect on me. Boom Boom was one of my favorite fighters growing up (after watching him lose to my favorite Arguello) and I couldn't believe the tenacity and courage Kim showed in that fight. He just kept coming at Mancini and I think was in the fight right up until the end.

It saddened me to find out he died days later. Just reading that article on him that I posted even saddened me more, because I knew about his mom but didn't know about the Ref. I do know that Mancini was never the same. His killer instinct was gone. His fights with Bramble were the highlight of this. He had Bramble hurt in both fights early and didn't finish him. He did have 2 KO's and one TKO after that fight, it just seemed to rob us of two fighters that night. He was only 21 at the time of the Kim fight and only fought 8 more times. I remember reading an article with him way back then, that he said once he learned about the mom he just didn't want to fight anymore.

There were some great little guys back then and Mancini should of been an exciting fighter to watch over the next decade. When i think of 80's boxing it isn't the Heavies that come to mind. It's the little guys like Salvadore Sanchez (although he died in 1982), Wilfredo Gomez, Azumah Nelson, Alexis Arguello, Bazooka Limon, Bobby Chacon, Edwin Rosario, Jose Luis Ramirez, Frankie Randall (I'd like to see a retired rating of him not the one still fighting at 43), and Hector Camacho who was a joy to watch before Rosario scared him into a runner.

I would like to see an official rating of Kim by JT.

Also I would like to point out that there were several 15 round fights after the Kim fight. The fight was for the WBA championship and despite launching an investigation into the effects, they didn't stop until years later. The WBC, however, stopped it immediately. I didn't want anyone to think that there were never anymore 15 rounders but the Kim fight was the instigation in stopping it.

meade95 · 04-07-2004, 06:21 PM

MH2365......I totally agree with you. The 80's / Early 90's were alot about the little guys...(or not so little)...I grew up near Detroit...so we followed "the hit man"...Tommy Hearns faithfully, 100%...

I also loved watching tapes of K. Galaxy (JBW Champ)...and of course Jeff Fenech....they along with your list were some great fighters to watch.....(Fenech was definitely robbed in that first encounter with Azumah Nelson.....great fight though...)

ACGord · 04-08-2004, 01:42 PM

I'd also like to see Kim rated.

I was a huge Mancini fan, but I think Bramble was just all wrong for Ray. Bramble had VERY long arms for a LW, Ray just had to go through to much firepower to get any work done. I seem to remember scoring the 2nd fight for Ray but I was only like 12 years old. Anyone else remember if that fight was that close or not?

Bam Bam · 04-10-2004, 04:14 PM

yep, Mancini was never the same after that

PittPanther · 04-10-2004, 06:39 PM

Fenech certainly wasn't robbed in the rematch. Melbourne was it?

Long live "The Professor"

dan_garlick · 04-26-2004, 10:32 AM

Ha sanyone found out if duk koo kim ratings are anywhere to be load.JT how about a quick rating for him.I am surprised he's not in there with all the Korean fighters listed.

darthpb · 05-01-2004, 09:40 PM

ACGord, the second fight may have been closer but, no, he didn't win...

04-07-2004, 12:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	PING: Jim Trunzo IMO we need an official rating of Duk Koo Kim (which might be hard since his only big fight was the one that killed him) since he was such an important figure to boxing history. Once again just my .02$

04-07-2004, 12:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	NP, The fight had a lasting effect on me. Boom Boom was one of my favorite fighters growing up (after watching him lose to my favorite Arguello) and I couldn't believe the tenacity and courage Kim showed in that fight. He just kept coming at Mancini and I think was in the fight right up until the end. It saddened me to find out he died days later. Just reading that article on him that I posted even saddened me more, because I knew about his mom but didn't know about the Ref. I do know that Mancini was never the same. His killer instinct was gone. His fights with Bramble were the highlight of this. He had Bramble hurt in both fights early and didn't finish him. He did have 2 KO's and one TKO after that fight, it just seemed to rob us of two fighters that night. He was only 21 at the time of the Kim fight and only fought 8 more times. I remember reading an article with him way back then, that he said once he learned about the mom he just didn't want to fight anymore. There were some great little guys back then and Mancini should of been an exciting fighter to watch over the next decade. When i think of 80's boxing it isn't the Heavies that come to mind. It's the little guys like Salvadore Sanchez (although he died in 1982), Wilfredo Gomez, Azumah Nelson, Alexis Arguello, Bazooka Limon, Bobby Chacon, Edwin Rosario, Jose Luis Ramirez, Frankie Randall (I'd like to see a retired rating of him not the one still fighting at 43), and Hector Camacho who was a joy to watch before Rosario scared him into a runner. I would like to see an official rating of Kim by JT. Also I would like to point out that there were several 15 round fights after the Kim fight. The fight was for the WBA championship and despite launching an investigation into the effects, they didn't stop until years later. The WBC, however, stopped it immediately. I didn't want anyone to think that there were never anymore 15 rounders but the Kim fight was the instigation in stopping it. Last edited by mh2365 : 04-07-2004 at 01:10 PM.

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04-07-2004, 06:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
Bonedwarf All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,321	As a boxing n00b, why is he so important? (Serious question.)

04-07-2004, 09:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Immediately after his death, they stopped 15 round fights. here's a good article on it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duk_Koo_Kim

04-07-2004, 06:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
meade95 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,790	MH2365......I totally agree with you. The 80's / Early 90's were alot about the little guys...(or not so little)...I grew up near Detroit...so we followed "the hit man"...Tommy Hearns faithfully, 100%... I also loved watching tapes of K. Galaxy (JBW Champ)...and of course Jeff Fenech....they along with your list were some great fighters to watch.....(Fenech was definitely robbed in that first encounter with Azumah Nelson.....great fight though...)

04-08-2004, 01:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
ACGord Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 76	I'd also like to see Kim rated. I was a huge Mancini fan, but I think Bramble was just all wrong for Ray. Bramble had VERY long arms for a LW, Ray just had to go through to much firepower to get any work done. I seem to remember scoring the 2nd fight for Ray but I was only like 12 years old. Anyone else remember if that fight was that close or not?

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dan_garlick Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 30	Ha sanyone found out if duk koo kim ratings are anywhere to be load.JT how about a quick rating for him.I am surprised he's not in there with all the Korean fighters listed.

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darthpb All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Queens, NY a mile from Shea Posts: 637	ACGord, the second fight may have been closer but, no, he didn't win...