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Old 09-05-2004, 12:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 09-05-2004, 03:32 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Really guys I know you all are from Aussie, but its was not a robbery. Mali showed alot of heart and put himself in a position where he will fight rahman on the Nov, 13 if he wants the fight according to don, but Lamon is the champ and it was alot of close rounds, and a judge is going to give the close rounds to lamon because he is the champ, I had it 114-113 for lamon but I can see how people could've thought mali won it but, its no oscar vs. sturm! its not a robbery, because lamon is the champ. NOW IF Mali was the champ he should have won 115-113 but he is not, and that results in close rounds going to the champ, just my insight it wasn't a robbery or anything, just a tough good fight.



BAM BAM-if lamon is garbage then wladmire is ****, or maybe a dirty diaper thats been thrown in the garbage lmao just had to get at you for that one.

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Old 09-05-2004, 03:55 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Rahman will KO Meehan within 5 rounds. Brewster was tailor made for Meehan because he isn't busy and is easy to hit with straight punches. Rahman will lambast Meehan with his jab and take him out with a right cross.

I like Meehan, but last night was his shot, I doubt if he gets another.


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Old 09-05-2004, 03:59 PM   #24 (permalink)
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LAS VEGAS, Sept. 4th - In another surprising Las Vegas ending, Lamon Brewster squeaked out a split decision against Australia's Kali Meehan over 12 rounds for the WBO heavyweight title on Saturday. The crowd booed.

Meehan, who was trying to become his country's first heavyweight title-holder in 107 years, gave a spirited effort that fell short according to the judges in a Don King Promotions fight card held at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino. There were 9,128 in attendance.
The square-jawed fighter was a huge underdog against Brewster but hammered the title-holder from the third round on to the surprise of the fans who felt it would be an easy victory for the title-holder.

"A lot of people thought I don't belong here but I think I do," said Meehan (29-2, 23 KOs) graciously. "I'm happy I stayed in for 12 rounds."

The 6-5 Australian by way of New Zealand, started building momentum with right hands. In the eighth round he pummeled Brewster as he lay against the ropes. At one time he landed 24 right hands without a counter from Brewster. Referee Jay Nady stood close by ready to stop the fight but let it go on when the Los Angeles fighter began to throw punches.

That round turned out to be a pivotal point in the fight.

The judges final tally was 114-113 Meehan, 114-113 and 115-113 Brewster.

"I definitely felt I done enough to win," said Brewster (31-2, 27 KOs) in his first title defense since winning it last April against Wladimir Klitschko. "I told everyone he was a tough fighter before the fight."

Both fighters agreed a rematch would be welcome but King announced Evander Holyfield will be Brewster's next opponent.

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Old 09-05-2004, 05:07 PM   #25 (permalink)
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BAM BAM-if lamon is garbage then wladmire is ****, or maybe a dirty diaper thats been thrown in the garbage lmao just had to get at you for that one. [/QUOTE]

heh, can't argue that,,,Vlad is definately poo-poo if Lamon is garbage...
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Old 09-05-2004, 07:02 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Now brewster vs. holyfield is a fight that holyfield can actually win, 1. brewster isn't active enough, 2. it seems like he dont have a plan B.

Mali vs. Rahman for Nov, 13 is like 90 percent done, Rahman wanted James Toney but king feels that james wont take the fight since he is fighting sept 23 which will only give him a month to fight rahman.

Too bad barrett wont get to fight klitsko instead we have to see danny williams, Im serious I was looking forward to Barret klitsko, looks like barret will fight Toney in octber for the wbc mandatory (If you dont know toney vs. booker wont be for the number 1 postion.) And goosesm (toney promoter) Made it clear there going for klitsko so to get to klitsko is to fight barret.
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Now brewster vs. holyfield is a fight that holyfield can actually win, 1. brewster isn't active enough, 2. it seems like he dont have a plan B.

Mali vs. Rahman for Nov, 13 is like 90 percent done, Rahman wanted James Toney but king feels that james wont take the fight since he is fighting sept 23 which will only give him a month to fight rahman.

Too bad barrett wont get to fight klitsko instead we have to see danny williams, Im serious I was looking forward to Barret klitsko, looks like barret will fight Toney in octber for the wbc mandatory (If you dont know toney vs. booker wont be for the number 1 postion.) And goosesm (toney promoter) Made it clear there going for klitsko so to get to klitsko is to fight barret.
Is Williams really going to fight Vitali?
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Old 09-05-2004, 07:23 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Eric, I truly respect your opinion on the result, but PLEASE get his name right mate. He is Kali Meehan, not Mali.
I agree with Ice Tea, that Meehan might have trouble against Rahman.

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Old 09-05-2004, 08:31 PM   #29 (permalink)
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How can Kali Meehan vs Lamon Brewster or Evander Holyfield vs Lamon Brewster be called Title fights. This crap is killing boxing. Meehan and Brewster would be lucky to get a 6 rounder in Madison Square Garden in the 50's. The TV networks have to stop calling this junk championship boxing. It's an insult to all the men who fought for the world titles in the past. When they reduced title bouts from 15 to 12 rounds that was the start of the decline. 12 rounds mean more decisions and as a result more fixed decisions.

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Old 09-06-2004, 03:59 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I'm just amazed that Holyfield can be given a title fight for anything at this point. He's lost his last two fights and has only won 2 of his last 7 dating back 6 years. He was a great fighter and actually has a chance against a crappy fighter like Brewster, but he shouldn't even be able to get a license to fight at this point for health reasons. It's a shame that a vampire like Don King is allowed to run business the way he does....
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Old 09-06-2004, 04:06 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Is Williams really going to fight Vitali?
Pitt - according to an eastside boxing interview with Vitali, Danny Williams is one of the options he is looking at. I think the fact that is the only name mentioned is probably significant, but it is only rumour at this stage.

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I'm just amazed that Holyfield can be given a title fight for anything at this point.
If williams can get a shot at the legit world champion on the back of one performance then Holyfield's cache of name factor will get him title shots for about another 10-15 years. What a sad state of affairs.

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Old 09-06-2004, 10:50 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Gunsmoke---while I'm not surprised (I guess?!?), I do find it appaling that Danny Williams will possibly get a title shot.

Just more fuel on the fire . . .

Patiently awaiting the Cotto vs Pinto fight.
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Old 09-06-2004, 11:17 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Titles

While I don't always agree with The Ring magazine, I do applaud what they are trying to do with their Championship Policy.

Its amazing how many fighters end up fighting for an alphabet title over and over again.

Thats why I personally don't include the alphabets in my use of TBCB.
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Old 09-06-2004, 01:35 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Yes, I read that Williams will fight Vitali in Dec. I wonder if Williams still plans to fight Oleg in Oct? That's a dangerous fight for Danny with a puncher like Oleg!
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Klitschko/Williams is a fight worth seeing. I like Williams,,,I think he's got great size, punching power, and a pretty good chin. We already know about Vitali...

Pitt I can't wait for Cotto fighter either.
Can someone start a Cotto/Pinto thread already..dying to hear about this one...
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This is the sort of rubbish that drives people away from boxing, in fact it reminds a bit of the Fenech vs Nelson robbery.
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This is rich, and I love when this gets brought up. If Fenech was such a victim of robbery, why then, in Melbourne, didn't he back up all his crying for his countrymen and the world to see?

Oh that's right, he was too busy picking himself up off of the canvas in the 8th.

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Gunsmoke---while I'm not surprised (I guess?!?), I do find it appaling that Danny Williams will possibly get a title shot.
Pitt, no one really desirves a title shot at this point so williams getting one isn't surprising nor unjustified.

The heavyweight division is a joke, not because of lack of talent, but because none of the fighters take their job seriously and get in shape. Only Vitali does and that's why most people belive he's the best out there. Brewster coming in that fat after winning the title was shameful. The fat ass desirved to loose.
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Old 09-09-2004, 04:39 PM   #38 (permalink)
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BOO HOO!!!

It should come as no surprise to all who know me that I am not pissing and moaning about Holyfield getting a shot at the WBO title. This fight is perfect for Evander. Brewster is just right for Holyfield. I predict a 5th or 6th round TKO for "The Real Deal"... leading the way to Klitschko or one of the other bums.
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Old 09-09-2004, 05:24 PM   #39 (permalink)
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The Heavyweight division today is a joke, it would be hard of me to even think of a previous decade that was as bad as this one. In regard to there being talent among the present crop, i cant go along with that point. I will agree the conditioning and general fitness of most of the current HWs leaves a lot to be desired. After about 5 or so rounds there FUXXED to be very blunt. I will say though that there must be some talented young big men who are still about, but they i feel use there athletic ability and talent to engage in other sports. Not the minor sport boxing has become today.

In regard to Don King and other promoters and all the so called Title Holders. The public themselves are in part to blame for buying these fights. Its a bit like a shop selling shoddy goods, if no one buys what they put on offer, they either have to change or go out of business. But of course if the public are still prepared to accept the shoddy goods, who can blame the shop for continuing to offer that sort of service.

Most of you who know me on this forum know i go back many years, so let me try to give you without i hope it sounding to patronising why i feel things have changed so much, and for the worst as most real boxing lovers i think would agree.

Promoters like Don King with the help of TV and its money, can do just what they like almost under today's rulings. So of course why would they, or i have to say the fighters charge themselves in many cases, want to take a risk of upsetting there so called good records by talking on dangerous opposition and risk losing there earning potential. Back in my younger days the promoter were pretty much forced to put on the best fighters and give the boxing fans there hard earned moneys worth or he knew damn well his stadium would be virtually empty for his next venture.

The big difference today is i feel often third rate fighters carry a dedicated band of followers who just follow there man and would put up with any sort of Shiite bill just to see there man in action regardless of his ability or the quality of opposition. They also put up with the poor fights that are on offer that same night on the bill. Often in days gone by with there being very little money in the working mans pocket. He would have gone and enjoyed the bars rather then throw his hard earned cash at Don King and the like. Hence to put bums on seats to use a boxing term, the promoter had to put on a decent bill or he had an almost empty stadium. Today although people moan it seems they still are willing to part with there hard earned money for poor quality fights. So in some ways we ourselves are partly to blame for putting up with it.

Our own Ricky Hatton here in UK is a prIme example, he has made a ton of money by fighting mediocre fighters. Yet he can still fill a stadium regardless of opposition. So of course its understandable from a prompters point of view that he does not want to risk spoiling the cash cow at the present moment regardless of what he says to the viewing public.

Its a sad state of affairs when so called Champions can pick and choose who they can defend there so called Titles against. If only we had a World Boxing Board of Control and maybe only 10 different divisions and the Board were powerful enough to insist on the defending Champion defending his title against the best contenders, but sadly in this day and age its just a pipe dream.



On a totally different note, i often wonder if the USSR had not lost nearly 16 to 20 million of there finest young men in the 1939 to 1945 War, just how many great athletics and perhaps fine fighters might have emerged from that part of the world.
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wildhawke11, I agree with much of what you said. I do want to say that I saw flashes of some real talent in Brewster. I just don't think he ever put the time in to condition himself to have the confidence to go 12 hard rounds and that was painfully obvious watching the first few rounds unravel.

I bet I have better conditioning that most heavies today and I only do hard cardio work for 1-2 hours a day 5-6 days a week. It's not that difficult, it just takes discipline. I never stop doing conditioning work or strength training. Granted, fighters really need some time off after a fight to heal but they've really taken in to another level.

I just heard Corrie Sanders is coming back... I like Corrie, but that guy looked like he retired right after he found Wlad. Did he do an Ounce of training for the Vitali fight? He took a horiffic beating because he was too tired to defend himself and now he wants to fight again? Before everyone starts saying he has a bad back there were many reports that said he was playing golf reguarly before the fight. You don't play golf with an ailing back. It really bothers me because I honestly think that guy had amazing potential.

Honestly, I hope Vitali rules the heavies for a few years until some genuinely hungry fighters emerge and bring some class to the division. Gatti proved that talent isn't the sole characteristic that makes great fights- Putting your heart on the line for the honor is really it. So I'm rooting for guys like Vitali and Barrett until things change.

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