ANY news on the New patch?

erickdamac · 09-21-2004, 01:54 AM

Im not demanding information but its been awhile since any info on this patch or the date of the patch been mentioned.

Bam Bam · 09-21-2004, 02:42 AM

or news on the rp is good too

wildhawke11 · 09-21-2004, 11:42 AM

OOTPDev to ITP players--(title edited by mod)
How many times have we been told this patch is being "worked on"?

How much bull**** are we supposed to swallow?

HOW LONG has this game been out?

To those of you who think this is whining--tough ****. We've been delayed, written off, given lame excuses, and outright lies. We have a right to be mad. ITP will probably be patched around the time DNF comes out.

Seems like its not only this Boxing Forum that is unhappy.
The above was posted in OOTP DISCUSSIONS FORUM.

I kinda feel sorry for Our Jim because he must be pulling his hair out, because these sort of things are beyond his control.
As for Andreas, hard as he works he only can do so much in 24 hours, is it a case of to many irons in the fire i have to ask myself.

Hoeksam · 09-21-2004, 02:40 PM

It'd be nice to have the patch, but the game is hella-cool the way it is now and some of the bugs people are describing have only affected me and my fantasy league once, which I can't complain about (especially after seeing at how many problem other sim-based fantasy leagues have...)

I'm just enjoying it as it is now and won't pipe up too much unless it does something like use my computer to launch nuclear weapons from North Korea towards California.... then I'll be mad because I like Californian wine (and the women aren't half bad, either...

)

Dave1877 · 09-21-2004, 06:02 PM

The patch is very much needed now, there's no rush just yet but the thing that is beginning to bother me is the swelling of eyes in the fights. It is too predictable, as soon as a fighter gets a swollen eye, you can predict with real accuracy when the fight will be stopped due to TKO, which spoils the fights a bit. Swellings should be more realistic in the next patch, and not ALWAYS result in a TKO so predictably every time. If a fighter is not hit as much or as hard, the swelling bar should decrease. As it is I've never seen the swelling bar decrease.

rdklein · 09-21-2004, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave1877

The patch is very much needed now, there's no rush just yet but the thing that is beginning to bother me is the swelling of eyes in the fights. It is too predictable, as soon as a fighter gets a swollen eye, you can predict with real accuracy when the fight will be stopped due to TKO, which spoils the fights a bit. Swellings should be more realistic in the next patch, and not ALWAYS result in a TKO so predictably every time. If a fighter is not hit as much or as hard, the swelling bar should decrease. As it is I've never seen the swelling bar decrease.

agreed - 100%

Bonedwarf · 09-22-2004, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave1877

The patch is very much needed now, there's no rush just yet but the thing that is beginning to bother me is the swelling of eyes in the fights. It is too predictable, as soon as a fighter gets a swollen eye, you can predict with real accuracy when the fight will be stopped due to TKO, which spoils the fights a bit. Swellings should be more realistic in the next patch, and not ALWAYS result in a TKO so predictably every time. If a fighter is not hit as much or as hard, the swelling bar should decrease. As it is I've never seen the swelling bar decrease.

Agreed.

We're screwed though. SI will see to that. After all, they bought OOTP, not TB. We're the poor little bastard stepchildren nobody cares about. (Anyone get the impression I won't be buying another version of OOTP in the future? They'd be right.)

Gunsmoke · 09-22-2004, 04:30 AM

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We're screwed though. SI will see to that. After all, they bought OOTP, not TB. We're the poor little bastard stepchildren nobody cares about. (Anyone get the impression I won't be buying another version of OOTP in the future? They'd be right.)

Why don't we just hang on for them to decide what they're going to do with TB before we hang 'em. I think the OOTP guys (as in the Trunzo's and Andreas) mean to keep supporting the game, but Andreas is slightly up to his eyeballs at the moment (for one thing he is undertaking a move of the CornerWork.com to a new server... not to mention the difficult jobs).

Mind you if they fail to fix the TKO problems I'll be in a hanging kind of mode....

Bonedwarf · 09-22-2004, 05:44 AM

Well SI have nothing to do with TB, hence the fact I believe it'll be neglected. If Andreas gets swamped with work, he's only got to look to see which side his bread is buttered, and realise it has SI butter on it. And Jim is left with his thumb in a delicate region, unable to do anything.

I find expecting the worst is the best strategy. It makes it a lot more pleasantly surprising when it doesn't come to pass

And having seen what SI did to "Eastside Hockey Manager", I weep for OOTP...

Bonedwarf · 09-22-2004, 05:46 AM

Incidentally, when I did the DLH fight the other night, he had swelling, but still went down with a genuine KO two rounds later. Not sure exactly what the bug is (and to be honest, I don't really want too, since I'll become obsessed most likely and quit playing) but if it's as bad you make it sound, then hell yes, it sounds like a top priority to fix it.

So, anyone reckon TB will get beyond version 1.7? (Or even reach it

)

Buddy Whatshisname · 09-22-2004, 08:34 AM

If Andreas has been transferred out (I thought he was a major player at OOTP), why haven't we been told what the future is with TBCB? This silence from Andreas is killing me. Jim is a nice guy, but I don't think he really has much say anymore in what goes on in the halls of power. We need Andreas to speak up and clear the air, and we need him to do it right now.

PittPanther · 09-22-2004, 07:00 PM

The game certainly needs an upgrade, I really don't play at all, and, to be brutally honest, I never really got into it in the first place. It was nice to try at first but too many bugs, including the way the game handles scoring, cuts, and swelling have kept me away.

I love boxing though! lol

Maybe the next attempt can be the classic you all hoped for, but right now you better suck on a lemon.

Dave1877 · 09-22-2004, 07:26 PM

It's strange that you didn't really get into it Pitt, to me it's a good game but not quite the finished article just yet. I'm confident that the next patch will improve the game a lot. I hope it does, because judging by the moans and groans (quite rightly) from certain members of the TB community, if the game isn't improved sufficiently with the coming patch then people will seriously reconsider the option of waiting for the roleplay boxing game.

PittPanther · 09-22-2004, 08:30 PM

Bascially I just never found it all-consuming. It's nice as like a novelty piece, or a jumpstart for discussion. For example, usually when there is a big card, before the fight my guests and I will simulate the fight and discuss what can or will happen.

But other than that, meaning the reproduction of big fight cards, the game just doesn't really depict boxing too much.

Couple that in with the fact that there isn't too much to actually do (i.e. using strategies is very flawed) other than make match-ups and I just never caught the fire that some of you have.

Don't think I'm not envious though.

Cap · 09-22-2004, 09:39 PM

What I find the most fun is acting as manager/promoter of select fighters and maneuvering them through the ranks to a title shot. I don't really want to be the fighter in the ring as with an arcade game. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I enjoy trying to pick the right opponents for my stable of heavies. Kind of like walking through a minefield. I've had a couple of prospects go blooey!

Now if they could just bring out that patch with the title belts and stuff...

Cap

erickdamac · 09-22-2004, 10:08 PM

Its a nice game but it was never finish I dont expect the game to be perfect but to a boxing fan I wanted more, I wanted more realistic game with The heights and weights imput and how they change during training hopefully this will be inputted in TBCBRP version, and too many fights are stopped by ko with jab, there is no option to beat the body to tire a opponet like a boxer (even tho fight inside is a option) but for fighters like shane who wins by going to the body its not a good full option, even though the patch dont cover these problems im hopeing tbcbrp version will,

I will also like a more in dept training, especially for the role playing version, If someone is moving up and the fighter he is fighting is slower then he is he might want to come in light or whatever you want your fighter to come in at so his food intake and his trianing will result in the weight he come in and how good he comes in of course you dont want to mistreat your fighter by feeding him very low but if u do the concequences will be deadly. I would like to see height too because these things sometime means more then skills, some people think klitsko is just to damn big for fighters like tarver or roy even though they have better skills, and some people think tarver is to big for Hopkins even though tarver might not posses the skills that Hopkins have, Some people think James toney might give klitsko problems with his shell defense and klitsko reaching down to punch would get countered.

Hopefully this can be worked in the new version not the patch, but as far as the patch goes, I dont expect one till December and I dont expect a role play version till next December, I wish they would stop comparing themselves to EA sports because Ea sports don't handle themselves the way OOTPDevelopments do.

Bam Bam · 09-23-2004, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PittPanther

Bascially I just never found it all-consuming. It's nice as like a novelty piece, or a jumpstart for discussion. For example, usually when there is a big card, before the fight my guests and I will simulate the fight and discuss what can or will happen.

But other than that, meaning the reproduction of big fight cards, the game just doesn't really depict boxing too much.

Couple that in with the fact that there isn't too much to actually do (i.e. using strategies is very flawed) other than make match-ups and I just never caught the fire that some of you have.

Don't think I'm not envious though.

Yea I bought TB, but originally I was following the forum and waiting for the RP version. I was disappointed to learn they bagged the RP part,,,and it was just a simulation type deal...but I figured,,,I have a good imagaination,,,I can manipulate the game to reflect a more managerial/career mode feel...However,,,,I find its way too time consuming and tedious to do what I want,,,and Im not really into "what-if" matches...I wish they had just continued with there plan to release an RP, I think that was a mistake.
I hope what Erick says is NOT true,,,expecting a release of the rp in Dec of 05

Bam Bam · 09-23-2004, 01:07 PM

Seems to me the hard part is done,,they have their ratings formula,,,the simulation module is pretty much complete, bang, plug in some fictional fighters, fictional trainers..refs. etc,,,,fix the organizational ranking problem(indifferent),,find a way to age the fighters,give us a title lineage page,,,,and boom we're ready to go...sounds easy enuff...lol..Well, Im not a programmer,,I bet its easier said than done

Buddy Whatshisname · 09-23-2004, 04:06 PM

Ok! I'm ticked off now. September is almost over now. We've been waiting for something going on a year for them to get things right. We, the customers, who shell out the dinero to pay for these games, have certain rights I figure. We want what we were promised when we dropped our hard-earned cash on TBCB. If I don't see a substantial patch, that works correctly, and delivers what they said it would, by mid-October (and I'm being generous), I walk. No purchase of an add-on, role-play game, or any other semi-fictional software.

I'm not talking to Jim Trunzo here. He's an employee of OOTP. Got nothing against him. I'm talking to whomever is running this circus. We demand action! We want to hear from Andreas or whomever is the new head mouthpiece.

Dave1877 · 09-23-2004, 04:49 PM

Buddy we've enjoyed some good times here and had fun with the game but I feel that a lot of people will agree with you on this one. There's little point coming here if there's no progress, life goes on as they say.

I think above all the most frustrating thing is the lack of voice from the developers, they always seem to be silent on a lot of issues. If we're into comparing game-producing companies, look no further than Sports Interactive - they inform their loyal fans of their every move and have dozens of workers monitoring their forums a day, sorting out enquiries and looking to improve their products to suit the people who pay their hard earned cash to play the games.

TB has the potential to be one hell of a game. Right now I'd judge the game as 'Good', but the next 6-12 months are crucial for the future of this game.

09-21-2004, 01:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	ANY news on the New patch? Im not demanding information but its been awhile since any info on this patch or the date of the patch been mentioned.

09-21-2004, 11:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
wildhawke11 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: united kingdom Posts: 1,834	OOTPDev to ITP players--(title edited by mod) How many times have we been told this patch is being "worked on"? How much bull** are we supposed to swallow? HOW LONG has this game been out? To those of you who think this is whining--tough *. We've been delayed, written off, given lame excuses, and outright lies. We have a right to be mad. ITP will probably be patched around the time DNF comes out. Seems like its not only this Boxing Forum that is unhappy. The above was posted in OOTP DISCUSSIONS FORUM. I kinda feel sorry for Our Jim because he must be pulling his hair out, because these sort of things are beyond his control. As for Andreas, hard as he works he only can do so much in 24 hours, is it a case of to many irons in the fire i have to ask myself. Last edited by wildhawke11 : 09-21-2004 at 12:09 PM.*

09-21-2004, 02:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hoeksam Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ravena, NY Posts: 160	It'd be nice to have the patch, but the game is hella-cool the way it is now and some of the bugs people are describing have only affected me and my fantasy league once, which I can't complain about (especially after seeing at how many problem other sim-based fantasy leagues have...) I'm just enjoying it as it is now and won't pipe up too much unless it does something like use my computer to launch nuclear weapons from North Korea towards California.... then I'll be mad because I like Californian wine (and the women aren't half bad, either... ) __________________ The tower of power, too sweet to be sour... Elite Baseball League - Milwaukee Brewers Right this way, everyone. Free puppies, ginger snaps, pocket PC's...

09-22-2004, 07:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
PittPanther All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,174	The game certainly needs an upgrade, I really don't play at all, and, to be brutally honest, I never really got into it in the first place. It was nice to try at first but too many bugs, including the way the game handles scoring, cuts, and swelling have kept me away. I love boxing though! lol Maybe the next attempt can be the classic you all hoped for, but right now you better suck on a lemon. __________________ Commitment Teamwork Pride Hail to Pitt!

09-22-2004, 08:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
PittPanther All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,174	Bascially I just never found it all-consuming. It's nice as like a novelty piece, or a jumpstart for discussion. For example, usually when there is a big card, before the fight my guests and I will simulate the fight and discuss what can or will happen. But other than that, meaning the reproduction of big fight cards, the game just doesn't really depict boxing too much. Couple that in with the fact that there isn't too much to actually do (i.e. using strategies is very flawed) other than make match-ups and I just never caught the fire that some of you have. Don't think I'm not envious though. __________________ Commitment Teamwork Pride Hail to Pitt!

09-21-2004, 02:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
Bam Bam All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York Posts: 983	or news on the rp is good too

09-21-2004, 06:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dave1877 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: West Midlands, United Kingdom Posts: 488	The patch is very much needed now, there's no rush just yet but the thing that is beginning to bother me is the swelling of eyes in the fights. It is too predictable, as soon as a fighter gets a swollen eye, you can predict with real accuracy when the fight will be stopped due to TKO, which spoils the fights a bit. Swellings should be more realistic in the next patch, and not ALWAYS result in a TKO so predictably every time. If a fighter is not hit as much or as hard, the swelling bar should decrease. As it is I've never seen the swelling bar decrease.

09-22-2004, 05:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
Bonedwarf All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,321	Well SI have nothing to do with TB, hence the fact I believe it'll be neglected. If Andreas gets swamped with work, he's only got to look to see which side his bread is buttered, and realise it has SI butter on it. And Jim is left with his thumb in a delicate region, unable to do anything. I find expecting the worst is the best strategy. It makes it a lot more pleasantly surprising when it doesn't come to pass And having seen what SI did to "Eastside Hockey Manager", I weep for OOTP...

09-22-2004, 05:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
Bonedwarf All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,321	Incidentally, when I did the DLH fight the other night, he had swelling, but still went down with a genuine KO two rounds later. Not sure exactly what the bug is (and to be honest, I don't really want too, since I'll become obsessed most likely and quit playing) but if it's as bad you make it sound, then hell yes, it sounds like a top priority to fix it. So, anyone reckon TB will get beyond version 1.7? (Or even reach it )

09-22-2004, 08:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
Buddy Whatshisname Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 115	If Andreas has been transferred out (I thought he was a major player at OOTP), why haven't we been told what the future is with TBCB? This silence from Andreas is killing me. Jim is a nice guy, but I don't think he really has much say anymore in what goes on in the halls of power. We need Andreas to speak up and clear the air, and we need him to do it right now.

09-22-2004, 07:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
Dave1877 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: West Midlands, United Kingdom Posts: 488	It's strange that you didn't really get into it Pitt, to me it's a good game but not quite the finished article just yet. I'm confident that the next patch will improve the game a lot. I hope it does, because judging by the moans and groans (quite rightly) from certain members of the TB community, if the game isn't improved sufficiently with the coming patch then people will seriously reconsider the option of waiting for the roleplay boxing game.

09-22-2004, 09:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 4,004	What I find the most fun is acting as manager/promoter of select fighters and maneuvering them through the ranks to a title shot. I don't really want to be the fighter in the ring as with an arcade game. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I enjoy trying to pick the right opponents for my stable of heavies. Kind of like walking through a minefield. I've had a couple of prospects go blooey! Now if they could just bring out that patch with the title belts and stuff... Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

09-22-2004, 10:08 PM	#16 (permalink)
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	Its a nice game but it was never finish I dont expect the game to be perfect but to a boxing fan I wanted more, I wanted more realistic game with The heights and weights imput and how they change during training hopefully this will be inputted in TBCBRP version, and too many fights are stopped by ko with jab, there is no option to beat the body to tire a opponet like a boxer (even tho fight inside is a option) but for fighters like shane who wins by going to the body its not a good full option, even though the patch dont cover these problems im hopeing tbcbrp version will, I will also like a more in dept training, especially for the role playing version, If someone is moving up and the fighter he is fighting is slower then he is he might want to come in light or whatever you want your fighter to come in at so his food intake and his trianing will result in the weight he come in and how good he comes in of course you dont want to mistreat your fighter by feeding him very low but if u do the concequences will be deadly. I would like to see height too because these things sometime means more then skills, some people think klitsko is just to damn big for fighters like tarver or roy even though they have better skills, and some people think tarver is to big for Hopkins even though tarver might not posses the skills that Hopkins have, Some people think James toney might give klitsko problems with his shell defense and klitsko reaching down to punch would get countered. Hopefully this can be worked in the new version not the patch, but as far as the patch goes, I dont expect one till December and I dont expect a role play version till next December, I wish they would stop comparing themselves to EA sports because Ea sports don't handle themselves the way OOTPDevelopments do.

09-23-2004, 01:07 PM	#18 (permalink)
Bam Bam All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York Posts: 983	Seems to me the hard part is done,,they have their ratings formula,,,the simulation module is pretty much complete, bang, plug in some fictional fighters, fictional trainers..refs. etc,,,,fix the organizational ranking problem(indifferent),,find a way to age the fighters,give us a title lineage page,,,,and boom we're ready to go...sounds easy enuff...lol..Well, Im not a programmer,,I bet its easier said than done

09-23-2004, 04:06 PM	#19 (permalink)
Buddy Whatshisname Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 115	Ok! I'm ticked off now. September is almost over now. We've been waiting for something going on a year for them to get things right. We, the customers, who shell out the dinero to pay for these games, have certain rights I figure. We want what we were promised when we dropped our hard-earned cash on TBCB. If I don't see a substantial patch, that works correctly, and delivers what they said it would, by mid-October (and I'm being generous), I walk. No purchase of an add-on, role-play game, or any other semi-fictional software. I'm not talking to Jim Trunzo here. He's an employee of OOTP. Got nothing against him. I'm talking to whomever is running this circus. We demand action! We want to hear from Andreas or whomever is the new head mouthpiece.

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09-23-2004, 04:49 PM	#20 (permalink)
Dave1877 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: West Midlands, United Kingdom Posts: 488	Buddy we've enjoyed some good times here and had fun with the game but I feel that a lot of people will agree with you on this one. There's little point coming here if there's no progress, life goes on as they say. I think above all the most frustrating thing is the lack of voice from the developers, they always seem to be silent on a lot of issues. If we're into comparing game-producing companies, look no further than Sports Interactive - they inform their loyal fans of their every move and have dozens of workers monitoring their forums a day, sorting out enquiries and looking to improve their products to suit the people who pay their hard earned cash to play the games. TB has the potential to be one hell of a game. Right now I'd judge the game as 'Good', but the next 6-12 months are crucial for the future of this game.