BADGUY Your boy is fighting tell me how...

erickdamac · 11-10-2004, 11:57 PM

BADGUY your boy is fighting (Holyfield) do you know how he will win?

I've been studying Donald and he is no chump, can you give me your theory on how holyfield will win? Thats if you even believe he will win.

Check your email i've sent the boxing members only interview with gleon and holyfield.

thebadguy · 11-11-2004, 06:49 PM

I KNOW he will win. Let me think about this question for little bit, so that I can put it into the right words. It's already in my brain, just gotta translate it now. At the moment, I am in no condition to write a lengthy "theory"... I have taken about 12 Vicodins... and the world is looking very different right now...LOL!

meade95 · 11-11-2004, 10:33 PM

Holyfield is way past his prime (he is not 65% of his top-self) - But that goes without saying (I know) - But still needs to be said -

We will be able to tell within the first 3 rounds if Holyfield has a shot - After three rounds does he look tired? (If so, he is done) - Is he putting together combonations (not combo's like in his prime....5 or 6 shots at a time....but at least quick 1,2, 3's ) -

One of the big problems for Evander now that goes along with his age is simply injury while fighting - (joint, legament, rotary cuff, etc, type injuries that happen because of age while trying to throw continual punches) -

I love Evander to death - He is no doubt in my mind a top-5 HW of all-time. In his prime on any given night he could have beat anyone.

With that said, I think for Evander to win he needs to TKO Donald. He needs to be able to show some reflexes and be able to fire when Donald is in range (Evander hasn't shown the ability to fire off shots when needed since Moorer II) -

I mean he did okay Vs Lennox II and with Rachman....but he still was slow to get off punches a number of times in both those fights (even though he won both!! - He was jobbed big time Vs Lennox in the second fight).

thebadguy · 11-12-2004, 02:50 PM

I agree Meade95. Like I have said many times on this board.... the decision in the 2nd Lewis fight was nothing more than "revenge" for the way the first fight turned out. I just recently downloaded Holyfield-Lewis II, and I turned down the volume... and after 3 times of doing that, my score is exactly the same... for Evander Holyfield! You could tell immediately that the HBO commentators were bias! Holyfield clearly won the first round (among several others)... and Harold Lederman gave the round to Lewis!!!! He had Lewis in trouble at LEAST 3 times during the bout and he was the aggressor throughout. If the judges had given the decision to the actual winner.... Holyfield would more than likely NOT be fighting this weekend. He would have retired as the undisputed champ.

erickdamac · 11-12-2004, 04:52 PM

Badguy im going to download that fight and tell you my score, Thats one of few Holyfield fights i didnt see.

Jim_Kidd · 11-12-2004, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thebadguy

I agree Meade95. Like I have said many times on this board.... the decision in the 2nd Lewis fight was nothing more than "revenge" for the way the first fight turned out. I just recently downloaded Holyfield-Lewis II, and I turned down the volume... and after 3 times of doing that, my score is exactly the same... for Evander Holyfield! You could tell immediately that the HBO commentators were bias! Holyfield clearly won the first round (among several others)... and Harold Lederman gave the round to Lewis!!!! He had Lewis in trouble at LEAST 3 times during the bout and he was the aggressor throughout. If the judges had given the decision to the actual winner.... Holyfield would more than likely NOT be fighting this weekend. He would have retired as the undisputed champ.

I also agree. I watched the fight several times and saw Holyfield as the winner. And don't forget, that was a "Post-Prime" Holyfield. But the first fight, as everyone already knows, was definitely Lewis.

Holyfield was usually better rematches. He was usually able to make the adjustments needed.

Jim

erickdamac · 11-13-2004, 09:56 PM

good news for u badguy holyfield is the MAIN EVENT when did this happen?

lol my bbbad i got it wrong

11-10-2004, 11:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	BADGUY Your boy is fighting tell me how... BADGUY your boy is fighting (Holyfield) do you know how he will win? I've been studying Donald and he is no chump, can you give me your theory on how holyfield will win? Thats if you even believe he will win. Check your email i've sent the boxing members only interview with gleon and holyfield. Last edited by erickdamac : 11-11-2004 at 12:01 AM.

11-11-2004, 06:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
thebadguy Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ephrata, WA Posts: 429	I KNOW he will win. Let me think about this question for little bit, so that I can put it into the right words. It's already in my brain, just gotta translate it now. At the moment, I am in no condition to write a lengthy "theory"... I have taken about 12 Vicodins... and the world is looking very different right now...LOL! __________________ "You need people like me... you need people like me so you can point your ****ing fingers... and say, thats the badguy!" - Al Pacino (Scarface)

11-12-2004, 02:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
thebadguy Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ephrata, WA Posts: 429	I agree Meade95. Like I have said many times on this board.... the decision in the 2nd Lewis fight was nothing more than "revenge" for the way the first fight turned out. I just recently downloaded Holyfield-Lewis II, and I turned down the volume... and after 3 times of doing that, my score is exactly the same... for Evander Holyfield! You could tell immediately that the HBO commentators were bias! Holyfield clearly won the first round (among several others)... and Harold Lederman gave the round to Lewis!!!! He had Lewis in trouble at LEAST 3 times during the bout and he was the aggressor throughout. If the judges had given the decision to the actual winner.... Holyfield would more than likely NOT be fighting this weekend. He would have retired as the undisputed champ. __________________ "You need people like me... you need people like me so you can point your ***ing fingers... and say, thats the badguy!" - Al Pacino (Scarface) Last edited by thebadguy : 11-12-2004 at 02:56 PM.*

11-13-2004, 09:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	good news for u badguy holyfield is the MAIN EVENT when did this happen? lol my bbbad i got it wrong Last edited by erickdamac : 11-13-2004 at 10:02 PM.

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11-11-2004, 10:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
meade95 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,784	Holyfield is way past his prime (he is not 65% of his top-self) - But that goes without saying (I know) - But still needs to be said - We will be able to tell within the first 3 rounds if Holyfield has a shot - After three rounds does he look tired? (If so, he is done) - Is he putting together combonations (not combo's like in his prime....5 or 6 shots at a time....but at least quick 1,2, 3's ) - One of the big problems for Evander now that goes along with his age is simply injury while fighting - (joint, legament, rotary cuff, etc, type injuries that happen because of age while trying to throw continual punches) - I love Evander to death - He is no doubt in my mind a top-5 HW of all-time. In his prime on any given night he could have beat anyone. With that said, I think for Evander to win he needs to TKO Donald. He needs to be able to show some reflexes and be able to fire when Donald is in range (Evander hasn't shown the ability to fire off shots when needed since Moorer II) - I mean he did okay Vs Lennox II and with Rachman....but he still was slow to get off punches a number of times in both those fights (even though he won both!! - He was jobbed big time Vs Lennox in the second fight).

11-12-2004, 04:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
erickdamac All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,592	Badguy im going to download that fight and tell you my score, Thats one of few Holyfield fights i didnt see.