universe big upset thread

mh2365 · 02-02-2006, 08:32 PM

Since I just had one, I figured we could start an "inside the ropes" universe upset thread. This way when anyone asks we don't have to go by memory or search for it!!!!

LH Morris Harris (3 rated) scored a UD10 over HW Charley Mitchell (8 rated).

Both fighters at prime Harris was 11-13 entering the fight and Mitchell was (27-10). Harris knocked Mitchell down 3 times in route to a 96-91/96-91/95-92 UD.

I think that one qualifies esp. since it wasn't due to a cut.

kenyan_cheena · 02-02-2006, 09:11 PM

If you've been following my HBF thread, you'd be aware that Joe Beckett (rated 3) scored a 6 round unanimous decision victory over Jack Johnson (rated 12), thanks to a last round knockdown. It was both fighter's professional debuts, so both were at the beginning stage.

No other major upsets besides that one, though.

mh2365 · 02-03-2006, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

If you've been following my HBF thread, you'd be aware that Joe Beckett (rated 3) scored a 6 round unanimous decision victory over Jack Johnson (rated 12), thanks to a last round knockdown. It was both fighter's professional debuts, so both were at the beginning stage.

No other major upsets besides that one, though.

yeah that was huge, I remember that.

GForce · 02-03-2006, 11:50 AM

In the opening round of the WBA Welterweight tournament in my Federal Boxing Alliance, #15 seed Rafael Pineda stopped #2 seeded Felix Trinidad on a first round TKO. Quick stoppage, but even so, a huge upset.

GH

Ian Lord · 02-03-2006, 01:08 PM

My uni's biggest upset so far was when Lennox Lewis [10], got cold-cocked by Anthony Willis [1] in the fourth round.

Lee · 02-03-2006, 02:41 PM

In my universe Domingo Guillen has been spoiler extrodinaire. He is rated a 1 and has an overall record of 3-12-0 (0) One of his wins is a majority Decision verdict over Pete Herman 11-3-2 (2) (rated an 11) In his last fight he captured a DQ7 win over Frankie Neal (Rated a 6) not really an upset since he was getting beaten but a win is a win.

mh2365 · 02-03-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee

In my universe Domingo Guillen has been spoiler extrodinaire. He is rated a 1 and has an overall record of 3-12-0 (0) One of his wins is a majority Decision verdict over Pete Herman 11-3-2 (2) (rated an 11) In his last fight he captured a DQ7 win over Frankie Neal (Rated a 6) not really an upset since he was getting beaten but a win is a win.

Wow that victory over Herman had to send some shock waves through your universe

Lee · 02-03-2006, 09:44 PM

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Wow that victory over Herman had to send some shock waves through your universe

Big time, Pete's other losses are to Jimmy Barry for the Title and a split decision loss to Luis Romero, which was also a bit of a surprise.

Gunsmoke · 02-04-2006, 01:21 AM

Probably the big couple that stand out to me from the WWBU are the disqualification of Greg Page (10) that sent Frankie Daniels (3) through to the HW Title Tournament final and a recent upset of LHW prospect Victor Galindez (9) by Fred Lenhart (can't remember his rating) who dominated him over 10 rounds including a third round knock down.

Mark

mh2365 · 02-07-2006, 05:04 AM

Bill Doherty 3-rated (12-13-1) scored a UD10 over Tommy Burns 8 rated (20-7-2) just now in my uni. Doherty dropped Burns 3 times. Burns was ranked 3rd going into the fight and Doherty was 39th.

Burns dropped 209.61 pp.

Mudster · 02-07-2006, 09:33 AM

In one of my pre computer crash universes, Muhammad Ali was stopped by Mel Turnbow in a heavyweight tournament for the title. Turnbow was stopped in the next round, but a huge victory none the less. I also had a modern day universe in which Oleg Masktov(sp?) knocked out Lennox Lewis to win the title and actually had two or three legitimate title defenses before Lewis won the title back.

mh2365 · 02-16-2006, 12:57 PM

not that big in terms of ratings 5 over an 8 ... but I just had a pre-prime Alec Greggains (5) upset Joe Butler (8) for the WBA LH title with a KO15 .... just so you know it wasn't a lucky punch it was even going into the last round.

bigMatt · 02-25-2006, 05:47 PM

Tommy Chandler, ranked 5th overall in the Universe of Leather Boxing Association and an 8 rating, had the crap beaten out of him last night by Morris Grant, ranked #37 with a 2 rating. Grant looked like a superstar last night, raining blows to the head of Chandler all night long. Chandler was never really in the match, especially after being feeled by a sledgehammer right in the 4th. He dropped again in the 9th, both times barely beating the referee's count. Grant won the match by UD and climbs 15 places in the rankings. A heart-broken Chandler drops from 5th all the way to 23.

bigMatt · 02-25-2006, 07:52 PM

The most fun I've had by far in my uni. First, lightly-regarded Morris Grant topples a tough Tommy Chandler, then up and comer Chet Shandel dumps Frank Slavin. I was pulling for Shandel, who was a serious underdog as a 3 rated fighter against the tough as nails Frank Slavin, who sports an 8 rating.

Two big upsets in the UoLBA in the month of October, 1890.

mh2365 · 02-25-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bigMatt

The most fun I've had by far in my uni. First, lightly-regarded Morris Grant topples a tough Tommy Chandler, then up and comer Chet Shandel dumps Frank Slavin. I was pulling for Shandel, who was a serious underdog as a 3 rated fighter against the tough as nails Frank Slavin, who sports an 8 rating.

Two big upsets in the UoLBA in the month of October, 1890.

Upsets always invigorate my universe. I have Slavin as a 5, did you modify the rating?

Cap · 02-25-2006, 08:22 PM

After looking at the ORs of some modern blubberweights, I adjusted a few of the better old timers upwards.

Haven't had a remarkable upset in a long while. Three rounders can be unsettling propositions though, as it's anybody's guess sometimes. I have had a couple of real underachievers, though I won't mention any names (da bums!).

Cap

bigMatt · 02-25-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

Upsets always invigorate my universe. I have Slavin as a 5, did you modify the rating?

Nope Slavin is an 8 without alteration. I'm thinking he is from TCBC although I couldda loaded him from Cornerworks or OOTP. Either way, Shandel is definitely on the come, and Slavin was unaltered.

Speaking of Shandel, is this the same guy who played Paul Bunyan in the Northwest for many years as an oldtimer?

bigMatt · 02-25-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap

After looking at the ORs of some modern blubberweights, I adjusted a few of the better old timers upwards.

Haven't had a remarkable upset in a long while. Three rounders can be unsettling propositions though, as it's anybody's guess sometimes. I have had a couple of real underachievers, though I won't mention any names (da bums!).

Cap

Well this was a 12 rounder, although it didn't get past 3. I was pretty interested in the results going in - Shandel was undefeated and no one had touched him to date, whereas Slavin was 3rd ranked and had a couple of tough bouts with Heenan but otherwise was pretty strong. As it stands now, both Slavin and Chandler have uphill rides if they are ever to contend for the crown.

CONN CHRIS · 02-25-2006, 09:36 PM

I just had Teofilo Stevenson get KO'd in 4 by a '1' rated stiff

Stevenson was undefeated and headed for an eventual South American title shot (and still is).

I haven't had that big of an upset previously.

Brooks TVB · 02-25-2006, 11:52 PM

My biggest upset so far since the rebuild has to be the Bob Armstrong(6) loss to Mike Schreck(3). Armstrong was well on his way to a potential title shot before the loss. Not a huge upset but devistating to my plans for both fighters.

02-02-2006, 08:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 3 posts Infractions: 0/2 (101)	universe big upset thread Since I just had one, I figured we could start an "inside the ropes" universe upset thread. This way when anyone asks we don't have to go by memory or search for it!!!! LH Morris Harris (3 rated) scored a UD10 over HW Charley Mitchell (8 rated). Both fighters at prime Harris was 11-13 entering the fight and Mitchell was (27-10). Harris knocked Mitchell down 3 times in route to a 96-91/96-91/95-92 UD. I think that one qualifies esp. since it wasn't due to a cut.

02-02-2006, 09:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
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02-25-2006, 05:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
bigMatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 2,353 Thanks: 13 Thanked 11x in 5 posts	Tommy Chandler defeated by Morris Grant Tommy Chandler, ranked 5th overall in the Universe of Leather Boxing Association and an 8 rating, had the crap beaten out of him last night by Morris Grant, ranked #37 with a 2 rating. Grant looked like a superstar last night, raining blows to the head of Chandler all night long. Chandler was never really in the match, especially after being feeled by a sledgehammer right in the 4th. He dropped again in the 9th, both times barely beating the referee's count. Grant won the match by UD and climbs 15 places in the rankings. A heart-broken Chandler drops from 5th all the way to 23.

02-25-2006, 07:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
bigMatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 2,353 Thanks: 13 Thanked 11x in 5 posts	Wow! The most fun I've had by far in my uni. First, lightly-regarded Morris Grant topples a tough Tommy Chandler, then up and comer Chet Shandel dumps Frank Slavin. I was pulling for Shandel, who was a serious underdog as a 3 rated fighter against the tough as nails Frank Slavin, who sports an 8 rating. Two big upsets in the UoLBA in the month of October, 1890.

02-03-2006, 11:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
GForce Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,458 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts Infractions: 0/2 (2)	In the opening round of the WBA Welterweight tournament in my Federal Boxing Alliance, #15 seed Rafael Pineda stopped #2 seeded Felix Trinidad on a first round TKO. Quick stoppage, but even so, a huge upset. GH

02-03-2006, 01:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ian Lord All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Coventry, England. Posts: 1,668 Thanks: 268 Thanked 29x in 29 posts	My uni's biggest upset so far was when Lennox Lewis [10], got cold-cocked by Anthony Willis [1] in the fourth round.

02-04-2006, 01:21 AM	#9 (permalink)
Gunsmoke All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 993 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8x in 5 posts	Probably the big couple that stand out to me from the WWBU are the disqualification of Greg Page (10) that sent Frankie Daniels (3) through to the HW Title Tournament final and a recent upset of LHW prospect Victor Galindez (9) by Fred Lenhart (can't remember his rating) who dominated him over 10 rounds including a third round knock down. Mark

02-07-2006, 05:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 3 posts Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Bill Doherty 3-rated (12-13-1) scored a UD10 over Tommy Burns 8 rated (20-7-2) just now in my uni. Doherty dropped Burns 3 times. Burns was ranked 3rd going into the fight and Doherty was 39th. Burns dropped 209.61 pp.

02-07-2006, 09:33 AM	#11 (permalink)
Mudster Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 214 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	In one of my pre computer crash universes, Muhammad Ali was stopped by Mel Turnbow in a heavyweight tournament for the title. Turnbow was stopped in the next round, but a huge victory none the less. I also had a modern day universe in which Oleg Masktov(sp?) knocked out Lennox Lewis to win the title and actually had two or three legitimate title defenses before Lewis won the title back.

02-16-2006, 12:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 3 posts Infractions: 0/2 (101)	not that big in terms of ratings 5 over an 8 ... but I just had a pre-prime Alec Greggains (5) upset Joe Butler (8) for the WBA LH title with a KO15 .... just so you know it wasn't a lucky punch it was even going into the last round.

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Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 4,546 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 14 Thanked 65x in 52 posts	After looking at the ORs of some modern blubberweights, I adjusted a few of the better old timers upwards. Haven't had a remarkable upset in a long while. Three rounders can be unsettling propositions though, as it's anybody's guess sometimes. I have had a couple of real underachievers, though I won't mention any names (da bums!). Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

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CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 23,467 Thanks: 552 Thanked 491x in 341 posts	I just had Teofilo Stevenson get KO'd in 4 by a '1' rated stiff Stevenson was undefeated and headed for an eventual South American title shot (and still is). I haven't had that big of an upset previously. __________________ REC World Prizefighter Rankings Challenge my Brute!

02-25-2006, 11:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
Brooks TVB All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Loudon, TN. Posts: 1,438 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3x in 3 posts	My biggest upset so far since the rebuild has to be the Bob Armstrong(6) loss to Mike Schreck(3). Armstrong was well on his way to a potential title shot before the loss. Not a huge upset but devistating to my plans for both fighters.

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