Phoenix Boxing Federation

[CONN CHRIS]

Thankfully, I never actually gamble. (and I was so close to being almost right at the end of ten. )

Good write-up on the fight Matt.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Thankfully, I never actually gamble. (and I was so close to being almost right at the end of ten. )

Good write-up on the fight Matt.

Thanks Chris. Since the fight is over I can now tell you that I shared your belief about Stevenson. I figured he would dispatch Corbett sometime before the end of the contest. Corbett's the kind of guy that doesn't always engender the kind of respect he deserves. Like Sweat Pea Whitaker, he may not hit you with anything that could even break wind, but he just doesn't get hit by much of anything, either. I imagine it would be very frustrating for a well-respected puncher to dance the two-step with a guy like this. You go twelve, don't really get hit with anything approaching a power shot, and then fall in a unanimous decision. You can't say Corbett didn't earn it. He just fought a whole different type of bout than Stevenson.

[mh2365]

Good stuff Matt

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Good stuff Matt

Thanks Mike! With our soon to be participation in the UTBA, things will likely slow down a bit here. But always appreciate the encouragement.

[bigMatt]

He has captured the well-earned reputation of taking on the toughest the division has to offer. Today, Teofilo Stevenson signed to become the chosen opponent in Muhammad Ali's first PBF title defense, which will take place in the month of November.

With scarcely a month to prepare, Stevenson will train hard to lace it up against an opponent he almost beat the last time they faced one another.

In response to criticisms levelled at Ali for skipping over several potential opponents to duel 10th ranked Stevenson, Ali's manager had this to say, "Stevenson is the only guy so far who has given Ali any kind of challenge in the ring. Fight fans want to see a rematch, and that's what we're going to give them."

Gentleman Jim Corbett had some decidedly ungentlemanly comments when told of Ali's decision to fight Stevenson. "Ali may hold the belt, but it's becoming apparent that he will only fight guys he knows he can beat. Let him get in the ring with someone of my skills. I think you'll see he is definitely beatable."

There are only 10 total bouts scheduled for the month, but several notable matchups worth watching:

#6 Jimmy Elliot 15-2-0 (3) v. #11 William Miller 14-2-1 (2)
Jimmy Elliot headlines the second of two fight cards this month, drawing William Miller in what promises to be an entertaining fight. Elliot won in an earlier matchup between these two last February in Essen, Germany, in a 12 round unanimous decision. Miller is looking to avenge that earlier loss, the only one he's suffered since entering the PBF.

#7 Tom Sayers 14-2-0 (3) v. #17 Alex Garcia 14-2-0 (4)
In a battle of similar styles, two sluggers hammer it out on the undercard of the Elliot/Miller card. Sayers is hoping to draw a title shot with another win against a tough opponent, and Garcia certainly qualifies as such. This should be a slugfest - odds are strongly against it going the 10 round distance.

#13 Billy Australian Smith 13-3-1 (4) v. #16 Billy Wilson 13-2-2 (1)
The "Australian" has had an up and down year in 1890, beating Joe Goss earlier in the year, then falling to Teofilo Stevenson in the PBF tourney in record time, the victim of a KO blow 15 seconds into the bout. Wilson has been impressive for the most part - his only loss in 1890 coming at the hands of Jimmy Elliot in the same tournament - a victim of a 10 round UD.

[bigMatt]

HONOLULU - One thing many gamblers who follow Jimmy Elliot have learned: never put too much money on the cantankerous Irishman. For as sure as he has the skills to beat anyone in the world when he truly wants to, he can also lose just as quickly with his underhanded shenanigans.

Tonight it was the Mr. Hyde that resides in side Elliot who came to fight. Fouling repeatedly through the early part of the contest, Elliot seemed to be more concerned with creating general mayhem than in beating William Miller. Despite his hell-bent mission of self-destruction, Elliot dominated the action early, almost dispatching Miller in round 3 with a 9 count knockdown and thoroughly beating his opponent to the punch all night long.

However, as is frequently the case with the pugnacious Irishman, it wasn't enough to mercilessly pummel his inferior opponent. Again and again Elliot earned the wrath of referee Steinwinder with his south-of-the-belt action and other misdeeds. When Miller opened a cut over the right eye of Elliot in round 7, it seemed to be the straw that broke the camel's back. Elliot earned a point deduction for a low blow and another warning for holding and hitting. The round ended with a chorus of boos from the disgusted throng in attendance.

Rumor had it that Miller had overtrained for this bout. The rumors were apparently true as by the 4th Miller looked sluggish and uninvolved. As it turned out, he needn't have worried. For just showing up and managing to stay upright, Miller was destined for a victory.

Round 8 begain with Elliot taking the lead once again, plastering Miller with several good shots that had Miller reeling. But Elliot could not subdue his darker nature, grabbing Miller with one hand and punching his face with the other. Steinwinder had seen enough. With 34 seconds gone in round 8, he stopped the fight and disqualified Elliot. Elliot's corner was beside itself, protesting loudly the decision. But anyone in attendance understood that it was well deserving and probably long in coming.

On the undercard, a lively slugfest ended in victory for Tom Sayers, who out punched opponent Alex Garcia to take a 6 round TKO. Garcia tasted the canvas twice in the contest, and was no longer throwing up any kind of defense against Sayers when the match was stopped. And Jim Daly shocked "Captain" James Dalton tonight with a surprising 2 round TKO of the formerly 15th ranked Dalton. Dalton, a 9-2 favorite going into the contest, was never really in the match. Daly dropped Dalton to the canvas early in round 1 with a devastating hook and a follow-up cross that surprised his opponent. Dalton returned in round 2, but midway through the round, a big overhand right by Daly sent Dalton lurching into the ropes. Dalton's jaw immediately swelled to grotesque proportions. Mercante stopped the action. Dalton's jaw was broken. Daly wins by TKO and a disconsolate Dalton will be out of action for some time.

November 10, 1890
HW: William Miller 14-2-1 (2) DQ8 Jimmy Elliot 15-2-0 (3)
HW: Thomas Sayers 14-2-0 (3) TKO6 Alex Garcia 14-2-0 (4)
HW: Jim Daly 10-6-0 (1) TKO2 James Dalton 13-6-0 (5)
HW: Jack McAuley 6-6-2 (1) MD6 Jem Smith 7-8-1 (0)

[bigMatt]

CHICAGO - Soldier's Field hosted the highly-anticipated rematch between PBF champ Muhammad Ali and challenger Teofilo Stevenson.

Both fighters are ready to go this time around as they entered the ring. It will be two finely tuned fighters at the top of their form going at it for the PBF title.

Round 1 looks to be all Ali early, who uncharacteristically goes right after it from the opening bell. Stevenson appears surprised by Ali's aggression, adopting a defensive response to the advancing champ. A couple of hard shots mid-round looked to rock the Cuban, but by the end of the round, he looks to be settling in, his confidence returning along with some success against the champ.

Stevenson builds from the late success in round 1 to put together a solid second frame, hitting Ali with several hard shots, one of which draws blood from the mouth of the champ. Ali for his part does not idle down, but continues to find Stevenson's face with his sharp jabs and combinations, raising an ugly welt under the Cuban's left eye. Round 2 ends a close one, with a slight nod on my card to Stevenson.

The two fighters continue to trade hard shots in round 3, the first one a roundhouse hook by Ali that shakes Stevenson. Stevenson returns the favor with a 3-punch combination that stops Ali cold, followed by a hard hook to the head that staggers Ali. Ali regroups and goes back to work on Stevenson, landing a 3-punch combo of his own that leaves Stevenson wincing. The round ends with both fighters looking strong.

Stevenson stormed out at the sound of the bell tolling round 4, applying a hard body shot to Ali then a solid right flush to the chin of Ali. That punch would have sent many fighters to the canvas, but Ali shakes it off. Ali spins Stevenson around with a wicked hook that tears the Cuban's mouth open. The blood seems to spur Stevenson to a fury, as the Cuban unleashes a crippling right to the head of Ali, then sets about addressing Ali's body with another combination. The round ends with both fighters bleeding from the mouth, and Stevenson collecting the round.

Round 5 begins like all others, with both fighters willing to trade at ring center. Ali flicks a couple of scoring jabs at the face of Stevenson, but a third advance earns Ali a first-hand encounter with a tremendous left by Stevenson to the side of the head that staggers the champ. Stevenson follows by driving a solid right into Ali's midsection, bending his opponent over in pain. Ali slides into his corner, trying to cover up and avoid further damage. Stevenson advances and lands a devastating uppercut to Ali's head. It is now obvious that he has Ali hurt, and is raining blows on the champ in an attempt to drop him. Ali now shows some swelling under his left eye. Stevenson wings another cross at the side of Ali's head. And yet another one lands. Referee Richard Steele shouts to Ali "Do you want me to stop the fight?" The answer of course is "no". The fight continues with Stevenson stalking a seriously hurt Ali. Stevenson launches a wild right that misses the champ as the round ends.

When round 6 begins, Ali looks to have cleared his head. He is bouncing in customary style. A left hook to the side of Stevenson's head enlarges the swelling that began there several rounds ago. Ali scores again but Stevenson's counter is a hard right that stops Ali cold. The swelling is growing worse under Ali's left eye. Trading at ring center, Ali sends a crushing hook into the face of Stevenson that staggers him. Another hook to the body makes the Cuban wince and another shot to the head leaves Stevenson shaken. All of a sudden, the champ who looked about ready to go in round 5 has assumed the advantage once again. Ali lands a vicious combination to Stevenson's face, and the swelling under Stevenson's left eye is beginning to look positively ugly. Ali lands an uppercut the buckles Stevenson's knees. Another cross from Ali lands flush on Stevenson's damaged left eye, which is now nearly shut. Ali follows with a perfect hook that drops Stevenson to the canvas. Stevenson tries unsuccessfully to climb to his feet at the count of 3, and somehow manages to get to his feet at 7. Steele asks Stevenson if he wants to continue, and the Cuban nods in the affirmative. But as the fighters commence again, Stevenson is obviously out on his feet. Referee Richard Steele wraps his arms around Stevenson and declares the fight over. An electrifying TKO win for Muhammad Ali, who retains his PBF title.

A post-fight peek at the judges scorecards showed Stevenson ahead on all cards going into round 6. It was truly a match worthy of title status.

November 28, 1890
HW: PBF Title: Muhammad Ali 19-0-0 (8) TKO6 Teofilo Stevenson 13-3-1 (6)
HW: Dominic McCaffrey 17-2-0 (3) UD10 Posh Price 12-2-1 (2)
HW: Billy Australian Smith 13-3-1 (4) KO3 Billy Wilson 13-2-2 (1)
HW: Scott Landsdowne 10-3-1 (2) MD6 Ian Millarvie 6-6-2 (2)
HW: Fred Crossley 11-5-1 (2) TKO6 Jack Fallon 10-5-0 (0)
HW: Charles Cooley 11-4-2 (2) MD6 Joe Hess 6-8-1 (1)

[bigMatt]

PBF Belt Holder: Muhammad Ali 20-0-0 (9)
1. Dick Matthews 18-1-0 (11)
2. Dominic McCaffrey 18-2-0 (3)
3. Joe Goss 15-4-0 (3)
4. Tom Sayers 15-2-0 (4)
5. Jim Corbett 17-1-0
6. William Miller 15-2-0 (2)
7. Jimmy Elliot 15-3-0 (3)
8. Joe Choynski 13-3-1 (6)
9. Tom Allen 14-4-0 (4)
10. Billy Australian Smith 14-3-1 (5)

[bigMatt]

The year ends with a 12 fight slate in December, plenty of entertainment and a minor shuffling of the PBF top 10.

Results pretty much fell along expected lines, with top 10ers James Corbett, Tom Sayers and Jimmy Elliot posting UD victories. Elliot was particularly impressive in his thumping of Primo Carnera, atoning for last month's embarrassing DQ loss to William Miller.

The most entertaining contest of the month was not found in the month's 3 Main Events, but in the Co-Feature fight on the last fight card of the month. Roy Williams, a fighter whose only loss this year was against the incomparable Muhammad Ali, posted an impressive win against Jason Estrada by turning the lights out against his foe in round 8. Both fighters, hopeful of a ticket into the PBF top 10, went after it in aggressive fashion in front of a capacity crowd at Detroit's Cobo Arena. While it was Estrada who entered the ring as a 2-1 favorite, it was Williams who dictated the fight throughout, keeping Estrada on the defense the entire evening before finally vanquishing Estrada in round 8 with a left hook that put Estrada to sleep for a 10 count.

Below are results for December. Following will be year-end top 10, and a list of fighters entering the PBF in 1891.

December 7, 1890
HW: Jimmy Elliot 15-3-0 (3) UD12 Primo Carnera 11-5-0 (3)
HW: George Rooke 13-3-2 (5) KO4 Frank Glover 6-4-4 (0)
HW: Jack Boylan 10-6-0 (0) Draw8 Joe Hess 6-9-1 (1)
HW: Lonnie Clark 4-10-1 (0) SD6 Marvin Stinson 4-11-0 (0)

December 10, 1890
HW: Thomas Sayers 15-2-0 (4) UD12 William Miller 15-2-1 (2)
HW: James Figg 10-5-1 (4) UD10 Posh Price 12-3-1 (2)
HW: Tug Wilson 6-6-3 (0) UD6 Ian Millarvie 6-7-2 (2)
HW: Tom Hinch 10-5-1 (0) UD6 Art Bayliss 3-11-2 (0)

December 31, 1890
HW: James Corbett 17-1-0 (0) UD12 Tom Allen 14-4-0 (4)
HW: Roy Williams 11-3-1 (2) KO8 Jason Estrada 13-4-0 (3)
HW: Fred Pointer 5-9-1 (0) KO5 Morris Grant 6-8-2 (0)
HW: Jem Smith 7-9-1 (0) TKO8 Fred Crossley 12-5-1 (3)

[bigMatt]

PBF Belt Holder: Muhammad Ali 20-0-0 (9)
1. Dick Matthews 18-1-0 (11)
2. Dominic McCaffrey 18-2-0 (3)
3. Joe Goss 15-4-0 (3)
4. Tom Sayers 16-2-0 (4)
5. Jim Corbett 18-1-0
6. Jimmy Elliot 16-3-0 (3)
7. Joe Choynski 13-3-1 (6)
8. Billy Australian Smith 14-3-1 (5)
9. William Miller 15-3-0 (2)
10. George Rooke 14-3-2 (6)

[mh2365]

Don't have my game here at work but I think Matthews is off to a good start in my uni also.

We mostly have the same guys, are you just scattering current guys into the equation?


*** haven't gotten to the post office to mail that book yet ... but it made me root for Ketchel even more in my uni, he is a month away from his first bout with Papke ... title shot even ***

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Don't have my game here at work but I think Matthews is off to a good start in my uni also.

We mostly have the same guys, are you just scattering current guys into the equation?

What I've done is to put all of the fighters into a spreadsheet and randomize their start date. Each has a 50% chance to start when he actually started (rounded up to 1890 for pre-1890 fighters), and each has a 50% chance of starting in a different year. So, at least in theory, about half of my universe should be inhabited by era-appropriate fighters, with the other half coming from any year (i.e. Ali, Estrada). I don't know who enters for the next year until December, when I look at my timelined spreadsheet and filter the view to the next year.

Matthews has been lights out so far in my uni. Ali is the only guy who has given him any trouble, and his only loss has come at the hands of the champ.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by mh2365

*** haven't gotten to the post office to mail that book yet ... but it made me root for Ketchel even more in my uni, he is a month away from his first bout with Papke ... title shot even ***

I appreciate it and look forward to reading the book, but definitely no hurry. Whenever is convenient for you. I unearthed a fictionalized account of "Kid" McCoy at a garage sale a week ago and am plowing through that one right now. If you like, I will shoot it your way when I'm finished.

[bigMatt]

BONNER SPRINGS - The PBF today officially welcomes the incoming class of heavyweights for the 1891 season. The collection is not a particularly impressive one, with no one seemingly destined to vie for the title, or likely even to land in the top 20.

Below is the list of newly added fighters, their incoming ranking along with their current records. Note that each fighter currently wages 15 bouts prior to his entry into the PBF: his first 10 against fictional tomato cans, and his next 5 against club level opponents. Fighters must achieve at least a .500 record to advance into the PBF.

#57 Jack Stanley 8-1-6
#58 Bernardo Mercado 14-1-0 (7)
#60 Keene Simmons 7-2-6
#65 Duncan McDonald 7-3-5
#67 George Arias 13-2-0 (4)
#69 Jem Roche 10-5-0 (1)
#80 Jack Langley 7-7-1 (2)
#81 Jack Gardner 10-3-2 (3)
#85 Ray Ledman 8-4-3 (2)

Remaining at Club level:
Teariki Terry Tuteru 3-10-2 (1)
J Pickett 2-11-2 (2)

Below are fighters who will be dropped from the PBF in 1891. These fighters will remain active as Club fighters, and will be afforded future entry into the PBF only upon achieving a winning record:

Fred Pointer 6-9-1 (1)
John McDermont 6-9-2
Joe Lannon 5-9-3 (3)
Daniele Langhi 1-10-4 (1)
Marvin Stinson 4-10-4 (1)
Dan McCarty 5-10-1 (2)
Lonnie Clark 4-10-2
Art Bayliss 2-12-3

[bigMatt]

BONNER SPRINGS - After reviewing the list of new initiates in the heavyweight class, the PBF braintrust unanimously voted to immediately add two new weight classes for the 1891 season: middleweight and lightweight.

The list of year one fighters in these weight classes will be announced shortly.

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by bigMatt

BONNER SPRINGS - After reviewing the list of new initiates in the heavyweight class, the PBF braintrust unanimously voted to immediately add two new weight classes for the 1891 season: middleweight and lightweight.

The list of year one fighters in these weight classes will be announced shortly.

Cool

[bigMatt]

BONNER SPRINGS - Twenty-three fighters have been inked for the inaugural year of the Phoenix Boxing Association's Middleweight division. There are a number of top-flight pugilists who will undoubtedly vie for supremacy in the division. Among the elite in the inaugural class are four who begin their PBF careers without a defeat: George LaBlanche, Jack "Non Pareil" Dempsey, Michael Watson and Bill Gabig. Other top flight contenders include Jack Fogarty, Jimmy Murray and Billy "Professor" McCarthy.

As in the heavyweight division last year, the Middleweight division will conduct a 16 man tournament in June to crown the first PBF title holder. Seeds will be determined based on fighters' performance from now through the end of May, and PBF rankings compiled at the end of May.

Below is a complete list of the 1891 PBF Middleweight participants, along with each fighter's incoming record. As was the case in the heavyweight division, all fighters eligible will gain admittance in year one. After 1891, fighters must have at least a .500 record to join the PBF. The following list is in order of incoming ranking in the PBF:

1. George LaBlanche 12-0-0 (7)
2. Jack NP Dempsey 11-0-1 (5)
3. Michael Watson 11-0-1 (3)
4. Jack Fogarty 11-1-0 (4)
5. Bill Gabig 8-0-4 (3)
6. Jimmy Murray 10-1-1 (1)
7. Pete McCoy 9-1-2 (2)
8. Tom Norton 8-2-2 (1)
9. Johnny Reagan 8-2-2 (4)
10. Billy McCarthy 10-2-0 (3)
11. Mike Boden 7-1-4
12. Reddy Gallagher 8-3-1 (2)
13. Charles McCarthy 6-3-3 (2)
14. Gary Lockett 8-4-0 (5)
15. Charles Bixamos 5-3-4 (1)
16. Tom Barry 7-4-1
17. Eddie Reede 6-4-2
18. Jim Carr 5-6-1 (1)
19. Tom Ferguson 6-6-0
20. Jim McHugh 4-5-3
21. John Wayne Parr 3-6-3 (2)
22. Tom Henry 3-6-3
23. Paddy Norton 2-10-0

[bigMatt]

BONNER SPRINGS - Twenty-five fighters have been inked for the inaugural year of the Phoenix Boxing Association's Lightweight division. The division is absolutely loaded with talent to begin 1891, with the likes of Jack McAuliffe, Kid Lavigne, Billy Myer, Billy Frazier, Alberto Sicurella, Harry Gilmore and Walter Edgerton among the entrants.

As in the heavyweight division last year, the Lightweight division will conduct a 16 man tournament in June to crown the first PBF title holder. Seeds will be determined based on fighters' performance from now through the end of May, and PBF rankings compiled at the end of May.

Below is a complete list of the 1891 PBF Lightweight participants, along with each fighter's incoming record. As was the case in the heavyweight division, all fighters eligible will gain admittance in year one. After 1891, fighters must have at least a .500 record to join the PBF. The following list is in order of incoming ranking in the PBF:

1. Billy Myer 12-0-0 (4)
2. Jack McAuliffe 12-0-0 (3)
3. Eddie Carroll 11-0-1 (2)
4. Jacob Hyams 9-0-3 (1)
5. George Lavigne 11-1-0 (2)
6. Edward McDonald 7-0-5
7. Billy Frazier 10-1-1
8. Walter Edgerton 11-1-0 (3)
9. Harry Gilmore 11-1-0 (1)
10. Jack Keenan 9-2-1
11. Jack Hopper 6-2-4 (1)
12. Dal Hawkins 7-3-2
13. Alberto Sicurella 9-3-0 (1)
14. Patsy Kerrigan 6-4-2 (1)
15. Jack Hanley 3-2-7
16. Jake Karcher 7-2-3 (1)
17. Joe Heiser 4-3-5
18. Phil Bloom 7-4-1 (1)
19. Johnny Clark 4-3-5
20. George Siddons 6-4-2
21. Billy Young 5-5-2 (1)
22. Frank Allnut 2-5-5
23. Joe Milletechia 3-8-1 (2)
24. George Wilson 3-7-2
25. Jack Grace 0-10-2

[Romdawg88]

While he can't seem to beat him, Teolifo is tough on Ali giving him probably his to toughest matches so far.

The Middleweight and Lightweight divisons look great, I'm rooting for Jack Demspey to take the Middleweight crown.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

While he can't seem to beat him, Teolifo is tough on Ali giving him probably his to toughest matches so far.

The Middleweight and Lightweight divisons look great, I'm rooting for Jack Demspey to take the Middleweight crown.

I gotta think Dempsey is the favorite in the division, although there are several top contenders.

The PBF has been on hiatus the past couple of weeks, but we're getting ready to crank up this week - should get a couple of months in at least.

Thanks for reading and welcome back!